Discuss. I'm neutral and have nothing much to say.

Not so neutral after all. A lot of drone music sounds like background music and nothing more.

[Kegmama]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

What do you think is lacking from today's music?

Talent.


(In regard to mainstream shite...)

[wellcharge]

1.music today is not particularly different from any other period
2.probably less than 1% of music made now has anything to do with drones
3.there's nothing wrong with background music

Originally Posted by Kegmama

(Talent in regard to also non-mainstream shite...)

Fixed.

[Glice]

I think it's a very economical approach to look at music in terms of gaps in the market. I don't think you're doing this, but a lot of people think in terms of 'what do other people not do, and how can I do that?'.

So it's not a case of what's missing from market but what am I missing in my life. And what I am missing from my life, and what I'll need to work harder to find, is music that doesn't exist in the world of myspace and producing product. In fact, I'd take the more moderate line of 'music that isn't geared towards a 7"/ myspace/ CD-r' and sounds that are allowed a time to gestate.

I'm thinking like that thing of when I 'discovered' Ashtray Navigations for myself - I think they'd been together aeons, and I'd not found anything of theirs, and I'm not sure if they have a myspace? I don't care aswell, they came into my life without hype - and this includes blog/ messageboard hype.

Does this make sense?

[afterthefact]

Originality. It still blows my mind that bands - big, popular ones - still use the I-VI-V chord progressions. And make millions.

[floatingslowly]

I'm so wrapped up with listening to music that's a decade(+) old, I had no idea that today actually had music.

I would love to broaden my horizons, but I live in a black hole.

[jon boy]

nothings lacking, i like 'todays music' whatever that means.

[max]

we are given those notes, there's only much to do with them.
that's where noise comes in handy.

but still, that's been done already.
complaining doesn't help either.

the good stuff is out there, you have to dig...

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

personally, I think what is lacking is centralization and universal access. There is literally TOO MUCH FUCKING MUSIC. be it commercial, independent, popular or obscure, and it is fucking an acid trip to try to make any sense of any of it. I do not know or understand any of the music anyone talks about on this board, I am constantly being schooled, its why I stick around here. Equally I could probably school some of y'all in obscure reggae and african music, and be schooled by others!

again, I hate to say it but there is just TOO MUCH fucking music

the feeling that the artist got "something to say".
no matter in which direction.
often there is nothing more then soulless sounds instead of sounds which transport something.
same for lyrics

[wellcharge]

Originally Posted by Kegmama

Talent.


(In regard to mainstream shite...)

mainstream music has lot's of talent, they have top engineers and producers working on every track, and every album has lots of session guys who are insane musicians, i'm kind of against saying something doesn't take talent just because you don't like it, that's the exact same argument commercial music folks use against others, and it's bullshit both ways

[DeadDiscoDildo]

From some of the bands I've met, seen, and etc.

I think todays music is better than ever.

It's the fans that are shit.

& The mainstream has always sucked since the Beatles broke up.

Originally Posted by Glice

I think it's a very economical approach to look at music in terms of gaps in the market. I don't think you're doing this, but a lot of people think in terms of 'what do other people not do, and how can I do that?'.

So it's not a case of what's missing from market but what am I missing in my life. And what I am missing from my life, and what I'll need to work harder to find, is music that doesn't exist in the world of myspace and producing product. In fact, I'd take the more moderate line of 'music that isn't geared towards a 7"/ myspace/ CD-r and records that are allowed a time to gestate.

I'm thinking like that thing of when I 'discovered' Ashtray Navigations for myself - I think they'd been together aeons, and I'd not found anything of theirs, and I'm not sure if they have a myspace? I don't care aswell, they came into my life with hype - and this includes blog/ messageboard hype.

Does this make sense?

It does. All the means to make more amazing music are there, and are used by those who do. I just think that there isn't enough amazing music being made considering what's at our disposal. The overwhelming chat about it overshadows what good there is too.

[floatingslowly]

I've thought about it some more, and I'm going with "longevity".

maybe it's just the glut of music that's "out there" or maybe it's just not as good, but I really don't hear much today that makes me think "these guys will still be huge in 30 years".

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by wellcharge

mainstream music has lot's of talent, they have top engineers and producers working on every track, and every album has lots of session guys who are insane musicians, i'm kind of against saying something doesn't take talent just because you don't like it, that's the exact same argument commercial music folks use against others, and it's bullshit both ways

true, talent is not whats missing. Even robots have talent, proficiency and skill. Whats missing is spirit.

Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo

It's the fans that are shit.

I was thinking along those lines too. Not all fans obviously, but reading through any internet site about music makes you think that most music fans are disgusting, spoiled shits.

[DeadDiscoDildo]

But I honestly feel that is changing, with the world going to shit the way it is....maybe people will have something to say.

less ppl from the suburbs singing about girls and marijuana and bullshit.

Bob Dylan also ruined music and artistry. He made everyone think they can be deep and prolific and instead of entertain people, he made ppl think they could enlighten ppl.

It needs to go back to entertainment, euphimisms, etc.

the 30s and 40s were fucking TERRIBLE in America, but it has some of the most beautiful music and lyrically isnt dark, or prolific at all...same with the 50s.

ppl need to start singing about serious shit, in an ambigous, artistic, and not serious way.

fuck those emo assholes who think they are the only ones with feelings hahahaha.

Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo

Bob Dylan also ruined music and artistry. He made everyone think they can be deep and prolific and instead of entertain people, he made ppl think they could enlighten ppl.

I love you.