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Old 12.04.2006, 06:55 AM   #61
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hahaha...i dont listen to u2 and i dont even know how to play guitar...i just make up chords that look cool and take it from there....i make noises, not music...
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Old 12.04.2006, 07:11 AM   #62
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wow, holy crap, I wish this room was mine.
so, what exactly does the blue box do? seems like many people use it around here.

well It's quite all I have. I bought all that in circa 7 years.

The bluebox is a NASTY but really nasty octav/distortion! It makes a great groovy noise cause it plays 2octaves down and I think it mixes something else randomly.
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Old 12.04.2006, 07:23 AM   #63
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How are you going to 'mod' your jazzmaster, buzzo? They're fine as they come, I think..

im just gonna put a mustang bridge and us pickups. im buying the cij version and ive heard that they dont sound like real jazzmasters
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Old 12.04.2006, 12:41 PM   #64
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well It's quite all I have. I bought all that in circa 7 years.

The bluebox is a NASTY but really nasty octav/distortion! It makes a great groovy noise cause it plays 2octaves down and I think it mixes something else randomly.

hahaha that's about the most accurate description i've ever read on it!
it's a fun pedal, but not REALLY useful for "music", it's more for a experimental noise thing... but hey, that's what we're in here, right? (thurston uses one, too!)

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Old 12.04.2006, 02:00 PM   #65
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it's good for weird ass solos
and who doesn't love those ? ;-)
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Old 12.04.2006, 02:11 PM   #66
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good point...
so lemme ask you guys, what's the/your weirdest pedal?

mine would have to me my Coron Space Machine. man the guitar thru it sounds like a tape recorder with the tape messed up and about to fuck the machine up. or low on batteries... really weird. but cool. and rare!

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Old 12.04.2006, 02:16 PM   #67
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it's good for weird ass solos
and who doesn't love those ? ;-)

yes, with the blend pot completely open it's close to a fuzz, a nasty fuzz and could be used for solo too but I usually set the blender at 7 am and I let it circle into a slow flanger or phasor. I use delays then cause it has a really dry sound.
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Old 12.04.2006, 02:18 PM   #68
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blue box is a legend. with wah its fecking crazy and retarded. i love it
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Old 12.04.2006, 02:26 PM   #69
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I have a short piece (2 min I think) not mixed and without sense where I used the bluebox with the ring modulator and some analog delay......here: http://www.sonicurbs.com/mp3/FOTS-ad80meetmrbluebox.mp3

We made this funny improvisation around an year ago when we had just a bad microphone opened in the room.
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Old 12.04.2006, 02:59 PM   #70
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You, sir, are the Edge. I'll leave your morals to do the appropriate thing, which is kill yourself and that cunt of a singer simultaneously.

DELAY IS WRONG, YOU THINK YOU SOUND LIKE GODSPEED, YOU ACTUALLY SOUND LIKE U2. This is a message to every band ever.

Delay is actually a nice effect because it is triggered by your playing. I prefer a nice short analog delay to vibe, chorus, etc, because it warms up the guitar sound and is much more musical to my ears.

The problem with a lot of post-rock bands is that they are "post-rock" and there is no satisfying rock out moment like in an SY song, or a Pavement song. That is what I personally live for.

Guitar effects are a matter of balance. Yeah delay sounds cool, and so do modulation effects- but you can't let them get in your way of rocking the fuck out. Not that they can't help you-my Little Big Muff plus my playing plus my Arion SAD-3(which does a very short delay, 200 ms I believe) sounds huge and really roars, and inspires me to rock out more.

Although you raise a point. I keep looking at the Boss DD-20 and thinking- "I could get rid of my PB+J, it would be great, I could do sound on sound, modulated delay, warp, and twist, simulated tape and analog, tap tempo, a bunch of different stuff." But I only use long delay on my PB+J for one song, I usually use it's short delay setting when I can't quite get enough from the SAD-3. And the PB+J being digital doesn't have those cool overtones that analog seems to have. So why would I really need to have a big expensive cool digital delay when I probably wouldn't use it to the max of its capabilities?" Although I'd probably use them more than I think.
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Old 12.04.2006, 03:41 PM   #71
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im just gonna put a mustang bridge and us pickups. im buying the cij version and ive heard that they dont sound like real jazzmasters

Meh. I have a CIJ with a jazzmaster bridge, and there's no problems. I wonder..
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Old 12.04.2006, 04:03 PM   #72
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Delay is actually a nice effect because it is triggered by your playing. I prefer a nice short analog delay to vibe, chorus, etc, because it warms up the guitar sound and is much more musical to my ears.

The problem with a lot of post-rock bands is that they are "post-rock" and there is no satisfying rock out moment like in an SY song, or a Pavement song. That is what I personally live for.

Guitar effects are a matter of balance. Yeah delay sounds cool, and so do modulation effects- but you can't let them get in your way of rocking the fuck out.

What?! You ever listened to (most "post-rock") any Godspeed?! Kicks out the sweet "rock-out" moments a whole bunch! You can't honestly tell me that Rockets Fall on Rocket Falls doesn't make you wanna fuckin' bang yr head, in a non-metal sense. In many ways, I'd say "post-rock" has more rock-out power than most rock these days.
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Right now:

Mesa V-Twin 3-channel tube preamp (stomp/floor model)
Morley Pik Percussion
Morley power wah
Echolette tube tape echo
Boomerang

That's about it.
I have a ZVEX Fuzz Factory and it's super cool and I used it for years, but I never use it anymore and I think I'm going to unload it soon.


As for Godspeed:
Yeah, yeah. Sidelong crescendo.
I get it.
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Old 12.04.2006, 04:18 PM   #74
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As for Godspeed:
Yeah, yeah. Sidelong crescendo.
I get it.

Wow man. I, like, never got it before. Thanks to you I no longer think Godspeed are a load of sub-YES, pseudo-prog, unmitigated shite. Thanks man!
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Old 12.04.2006, 04:33 PM   #75
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The thing I thought was funny when I went to see GYBE was the fact that I was pretty sure that neither they nor their crowd would admit to being fans of prog-rock, but how obviously prog they are.

I'm sorry, but if you have 20-minute compositions and a 9-piece group that includes a string section, you are prog rock. The fact that you don't have widdly guitar solos doesn't mean you're not prog. It just means you are uptight enough to deny the progressive guitarist their right to have a bombastically masturbatory good time, which is the tradeoff for the social stigma of playing prog rock in the first place. Prog rock!
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It's not the proggishness that annoys me about them, it's the fact that they're so fucking austere. Prog bands at least had the decency to be utterly ridiculous.

Austere belongs to the classical canon: discuss.
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well i use as much pedals as possible to diguise my mediocre sloppy bad playing...

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Exactly!
That's what I was trying to say, really.
Prog should be pompous and bombastic, and it should be made by people with big egos that are obviously channelled through their instruments. It is not the medium for restraint.
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Old 12.04.2006, 05:03 PM   #80
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meh, prog rock & post rock are two diff worlds, there's similarities for sure, genres always blend a little bit,
i like post rock, in fact the band i currently play bass in could be called post rock, i'd be bored in a band wherein i'd feel like i can't rock out but i like technical challenges too, as long as it's not too arty farty.
prog rock... every genre has got its more interesting bands and less interesting bands i guess... some guitar virtuosos in some of those bands i find to be very irritating because they seem to care more about showing off than actually expressing some emotion... blahblah =P
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