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Old 07.14.2008, 05:49 PM   #61
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As to the topic statement, a big "no duh." It's a formula that's time-tested I suppose.
Far too many American consumers gobble it up in hypocritical fashion.




Ah, Bill Hicks worship. He's okay. Yeah, I can't stand Billy Ray Cyrus either.
Hicks probably had more to say than the other rambler, Lenny Bruce, yeah, I'll give him that, but a lot of it is hippie hodgepodge. I can explain at length and dissect his routines if ya want. I suppose Lenny was Beatnik hodepodge. Don't get me wrong, I like both, but at some point worship kicks in and the worshipper fails to look at things critically--as they really are. If someone really thinks that Bill Hicks had some kind of untouchable sage's wisdom, if they think that he had some special message or knowledge, then I'm not so sure they think very much at all. He gets about as much wrong as he does right. And, he's *cough* highly contradictory at times.

If I were to put up a poll of Steve Martin vs. Bill Hicks, Bill would vanquish Steve and people wouldn't even consider that Steve is a lot more philosophical. Instead they would point to Steve's "sellout" as a way to discredit his zenith.

Anyway, another rant.

i dont know about any of this but did you hear what he said about killing billy ray cyrus and about his filthy cracker seed? this thread is about that seed!! prophecy status: fulfilled.

anyway i had never heard of hicks until recently (nor about hannah montana or her disgusting father, for that matter), and to me carlin was better, but eh, every time i listen to that clip i laugh-- now, the seething rage he displays is probably how he got pancreatic cancer-- so i wouldn't recommend it as a daily activity, nor worship in any way.

but anyone who hates that greasy asshole cyrus guy who apparently used to make atrocious music before he decided to exploit his own children is alright in my book.
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Old 07.14.2008, 05:50 PM   #62
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Old 07.14.2008, 05:52 PM   #63
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don't talk about my daddy in law like that

i'd keep him away from the granchirren.

no sitting them on his lap or any of that.

seriously.
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Old 07.14.2008, 05:53 PM   #64
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Anyone else notice how after Hannah montana got popular, a bunch of morons started conjuring up their idea in their mind that one (crappy) hit wonder (not so wondrous in any case) billy ray cyrus was a god in his own right.
And now you see him hosting country music award shows, and releasing new albums and being interviewed.. ugh... people ares tupid.

Yes exactly, the collective capacity for stupidity is spreading with exponential rapidity and alacrity.
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Old 07.14.2008, 05:53 PM   #65
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i will not create spawn with miley
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Old 07.14.2008, 05:54 PM   #66
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Yes exactly, the collective capacity for stupidity is spreading with exponential rapidity and alacrity.
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Ever see Idiocracy? XD quite startlingly realistic.
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Old 07.14.2008, 05:57 PM   #67
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i will not create spawn with miley

that's probably the best thing for everyone involved.

 
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:01 PM   #68
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Yeah if you think about it. Aside from the "psychic pollution" to which Hicks alludes, it seems the Cyrus virus is enveloping more aspects of society and culture with every generation contaminating all in its "filthy" path.

Now can you concede to me that "cracker" is quite the derogatory term, !@#$%!, and that I don't deserve to be called as such?
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:02 PM   #69
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i don't think miley is stupid at all.

she's manipulated into being who she is because she's a kid, most 15 year olds in her situation would act the same way.

she actually plays the industry game quite well.
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:02 PM   #70
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i don't want them eating up and pooping out and spitting up my disney dollars... plus it will make the divorce & settlement much less of a hassle. I'll settle for $320 mil. no less... i know she's worth a billion... see what a nice guy i am... not even going for half.
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:03 PM   #71
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i don't think miley is stupid at all.

she's manipulated into being who she is because she's a kid, most 15 year olds in her situation would act the same way.

she actually plays the industry game quite well.

Ah, the Madonna argument haha. That's right, you do like Avril.
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:03 PM   #72
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she plays it amazingly well... i know nobody else will really agree... but in suburban America at least... she is almost at a Beatles level... not joking
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:05 PM   #73
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she plays it amazingly well... i know nobody else will really agree... but in suburban America at least... she is almost at a Beatles level... not joking
Oh I know you aren't sadly. What makes it worse for me is all the junior high bitchy snobs love her.
And the little kids who like her tend to be the bratty ones. (at least where I live)
The sooner AMerica becomes done with this crap fest the better/
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:07 PM   #74
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Oh I know you aren't sadly. What makes it worse for me is all the junior high bitchy snobs love her.
And the little kids who like her tend to be the bratty ones. (at least where I live)
The sooner AMerica becomes done with this crap fest the better/

wait till after i get my settlement, k thx
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:09 PM   #75
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she plays it amazingly well... i know nobody else will really agree... but in suburban America at least... she is almost at a Beatles level... not joking


Last time I checked my cultural watch, The Beatles played to fifteen year-olds as fifteen year-olds, not young adults. They also, I'll remind, had zero to do with thinly-veiled softcore kiddie porn and no member of The Beatles ever pimped out their daughters.

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Yes exactly, the collective capacity for stupidity is spreading with exponential rapidity and alacrity.

What part of this statement does not ring true for you?
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:10 PM   #76
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Last time I checked my cultural watch, The Beatles played to fifteen year-olds as fifteen year-olds, not young adults. They also, I'll remind, had zero to do with kiddie porn and no member of The Beatles ever pimped out their daughters.
way to be literal and overly specific...
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:12 PM   #77
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Last time I checked my cultural watch, The Beatles played to fifteen year-olds as fifteen year-olds, not young adults. They also, I'll remind, had zero to do with thinly-veiled softcore kiddie porn and no member of The Beatles ever pimped out their daughters.

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Yes exactly, the collective capacity for stupidity is spreading with exponential rapidity and alacrity.

What part of this statement does not ring true for you?

yr doing it wrong
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:13 PM   #78
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I suppose this is where I refer to you as a snotty-nose kid.

I mean, it's pretty obvious.

Seems there's a case for the Disney Channel to be brought up on cultural obscenity charges, but people are too ga-ga goo-goo to see it for what it is. They've been doing this stuff for years now.

They operate under the astute assumption that kids want one thing more than anything. They want to act and be treated like adults. And so the Disney Channel has carefully developed programming that constantly has pushed that envelope as far as it can go without being overly blatant about it.

What I contend is that the dirty little envelope broke a long time ago.

Good Lord, let kids be kids.
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Old 07.14.2008, 06:14 PM   #79
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i think you interact mostly with people without kids, and likely in an urban setting
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I suppose this is where I refer to you as a snotty-nose kid.

I mean, it's pretty obvious.

Seems there's a case for the Disney Channel to be brought up on cultural obscenity charges, but people are too ga-ga goo-goo to see it for what it is. They've been doing this stuff for years now.

They operate under the astute assumption that kids want one thing more than anything. They want to act and be treated like adults. And so the Disney Channel has carefully developed programming that constantly has pushed that envelope as far as it can go without being overly blatant about it.

What I contend is that the dirty little envelope broke a long time ago.

Good Lord, let kids be kids.

i can agree with this... you sneaky editor.... my comparison with the beatles was in regards to $$
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