[Glice]

But I e-fived him! Don't you try and challenge the sacred covenant of e-fives. Troublemaker, that's what you are.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by Glice

Edit: not that Cline can't play - most people doing weird things can't, he can. Ok? Ok.

He sure can! His disc of Coltrane covers is mind boggling!

[Glice]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

He sure can! His disc of Coltrane covers is mind boggling!

Wassit called? I don't usually like guitar renditions of anything other than guitar music, but Coltrane works really well on electric (see also that cover that Eugene Chadborne did).

[afterthefact]

Originally Posted by Glice

But I e-fived him! Don't you try and challenge the sacred covenant of e-fives. Troublemaker, that's what you are.

I am, and I have never denied that. It appears now, though, that even in my efforts to make peace, trouble ensues.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by Glice

Wassit called? I don't usually like guitar renditions of anything other than guitar music, but Coltrane works really well on electric (see also that cover that Eugene Chadborne did).

INTERSTELLER SPACE REVISITED oh my goodness. He gets his guitar to sound like Coltrane's sax... it's unreal.

[afterthefact]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

INTERSTELLER SPACE REVISITED oh my goodness. He gets his guitar to sound like Coltrane's sax... it's unreal.

Oh my goodness indeed. It is a great guitar rendition of Coltrane. Nothing like the travesty of Buckethead's cover of MD's Sketches of Spain. Not to sound like a jaded ex-lover, but I don't know what I ever saw in that guy.

Cline is the bomb diggity, no doubt. Word to your mother.

[noisereductions]

Nels Cline definitely did Coltrane proud. And I'm a huge Coltrane fan. But that disc straight up astounds me every time I listen to it. I've really done like compare/contrast each track, and I'm like "how the fuuuuuu????"

[RanaldoNecro]

I saw him last night with Wilco...What is that thing on his table?

A mixer?

[RdTv]

I often wonder how bored Nels must be playing most of the stuff off Wilco's recent album. The guy is a wealth of talent and obscured creativity, all you need to hear is his Interstellar Space stuff, which you all mentioned and the NCS material. Hopefully Wilco's next album will have a return to some more grimey, ballsier sounds.

[Glice]

I don't expect he's that bored. Personally, I'm more inclined towards improv, but playing set pieces is always a nice relief, and not too much effort.

There, I've empathised with Cline. Win.

[Sonic Youth 37]

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro

I saw him last night with Wilco...What is that thing on his table?

A mixer?

His table has a EHX 16-second delay and Kaoss pad if he uses a similar setup at he did with The Singers.

[RdTv]

Originally Posted by Glice

I don't expect he's that bored. Personally, I'm more inclined towards improv, but playing set pieces is always a nice relief, and not too much effort.

There, I've empathised with Cline. Win.

Well, yeah of course its a break, and it pays his bills more so than his other projects, but artistically speaking the man has got to be somewhere else.

[Glice]

Hmm. While I'm a big detractor against that fucking Patton trap of playing four millions genres, I remember seeing Nmperign playing Tijuana brass with Damon and Naomi and being surprised that they're consummate professionals. To my mind, the worst improvisers are the ones that only listen to, and play, improv (Seymor Wright, I'm looking at you).

[RdTv]

Originally Posted by Glice

Hmm. While I'm a big detractor against that fucking Patton trap of playing four millions genres, I remember seeing Nmperign playing Tijuana brass with Damon and Naomi and being surprised that they're consummate professionals. To my mind, the worst improvisers are the ones that only listen to, and play, improv (Seymor Wright, I'm looking at you).

Ok, well said. My point isn't that the guy doesn't put his heart into it or that he isn't a professional. He is and probably does all the previous. My point is that given his abilities and the way in which HE chooses to express them, playing gig after gig of the same tired, drull set-list (even by most Wilco fans standards) has to wear on him. I mean Jeff Tweedy wrote those songs and has more emotional sentiment vested in them.

[greedrex]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

INTERSTELLER SPACE REVISITED oh my goodness. He gets his guitar to sound like Coltrane's sax... it's unreal.

I have yet to listen to this.

[afterthefact]

I'm sure he really enjoy what he does, because he wouldn't do it if he was bored every night. He's got enough cred I feel that if he said, "Hey, I'm not doing this anymore, it's boring," people would say ok, whether they liked it or not, with a respect-the-man attitude. I've seen a few videos of him playing with Wilco and he seems to enjoy it.

Now I can see why people might think he would get bored; I might get bored playing with Wilco everynight, and I am nowhere near as good as Cline. Apparently though, he isn't, and I say good for him, to be able to go crazy-wild-jazz-improv-experimental-free-your-mind-pyschedelic, and still enjoy playing simple rock songs as well. He loves music, and he loves playing music. I really don't see him getting bored with anything.

Now come to think of it, and I've already admitted that I can get bored playing music, so I am just as guilty, I think getting bored with playing music (to an extent, of course) may be tied in with pride, and it may indicate that you don't enjoy the art of truly making music. For Nels to say "I'm bored with this, I could be doing so much more" would be somewhat arrogant, and from reading anything Nels writes or says, he is not an arrogant man. He's into music because he loves to play, and now he has a gig where he can play in front of people all of the time, and make what I would assume to be a decent living at it. My guess, and this is purely speculation, is that Nels would only be bored if he did not have a guitar in his hand.

[RanaldoNecro]

Here is a clip of him playing thru his 'sing thing'

http://www.fender.com/freestuff/jazzmaster50th/

[RanaldoNecro]

Here is another clip in HD

http://vimeo.com/2264687

[afterthefact]

Thanks!