[king_buzzo]

sabbath.... awesome band. discuss

[Everyneurotic]

there's no need for discussion.

[Everyneurotic]

ozzy era sabbath is the best, dio era is very good but different, born again (with ian gillan) is amazing, the rest are certainly no good.

i'm actually curious about how many people have really heard dio-era sabbath, let alone other dudes-eras.

[Everyneurotic]

i know someone else like that, "dio is a real singer, ozzy was just a comedian making an ass of himself"

[youthoftomorrow]

i've got the first three Sab albums. Paranoid is my favorite, with Master of Reality a close second. i've been meaning to get Vol. 4. i almost got it on vinyl a few months ago in Seattle, but i bought a Mission of Burma CD instead.

"Hand of Doom" is one of the finest rock songs ever recorded.

[king_buzzo]

i hate dio! he ruined the whole point of sabbath and made it metal!
i have all the albums with ozzy and the best for me are
master or reallity
paranoid
black sabbath

in order. not so keen on vol 4 and sabbath bloody sabbath though

[GeneticKiss]

Sabbath invented drum 'n' bass with "Hand Of Doom"...

I'm surprised no rappers have sampled it yet...or maybe someone has, and I just don't know about it...

I haven't heard much non-Ozzy Sabbath, but I'm really not big on Dio, so I doubt if I'll ever try any of it...

[king_buzzo]

yeah, i hate dios voice and i only listened to a couple of songs

[noisemachine]

I only have Paranoid but have always been interested in checking out more of their output.

[EMMAh]

The only song I really like by them is War Pigs. But that's because my brother listens to them non-stop and it's annoying.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by matt g

i'm actually curious about how many people have really heard dio-era sabbath, let alone other dudes-eras.

probably not too many, i'm pretty sure most would go for ozzy.

the guy who stits next to me at work prefers dio-sabbath over ozzy-sabbath. he's the only person i've ever met who like it like that.

dude, you can stop wondering, we've all heard, dio, and well, lets face it, dio fucking sucks! I still can't believe that Tony thinks that Dio is the best vocalist of ALL TIME! fuck dio!

sabbath, shit, those motherfuckers were the first to cause distortion on your speakers. not to mention that sweet leaf is perhaps the greatest song ever dedicated to herb smoke....

if you haven't ever really LISTENED to sabbath, that is to say, you do no know the words to at least half of the 1970-1979 tunes, then you dont know sabbath, and you NEED too, cuz as its been said, sabbath is the shit, perhaps the greatest band ever.

And fuck that, they should have brought back Geezer, but apparantly they felt they could do with out. It isn't sabbath without Geezer, Tony, Ozzy, and Bill man, seriously.

[youthoftomorrow]

so, i went to my local record store tonight and bought Vol. 4 (as well as ordered SY's Bad Moon Rising). just started listening to it.

[Norma J]

Early Sabbath is great. I don't care to hear any Sabbath without Ozzy. Not that I'm overally a huge fan of Ozzie, but Paranoid, Master of Reality, and the self titled album etc etc is Sabbath to me.

[Inhuman]

Don't know much about them, but Faeries Wear Boots = Fucking Incredible

[Everyneurotic]

sabbath with dio (and ian gillan for that matter) are just different and not that quite unique as the first 6 sabbath albums, i can certainly picture the band with dio at the band's a&r office while the guy plays them all the priest, maiden, diamond head, ufo, etc. albums from the era telling them "you're sabbath! you can't be left behind!" but that doesn't mean they were bad, just not that groundbreaking or defining as they were in their prime.

by the way, rainbow fucking rules! best dio band ever.

and also, ozzy's career ended after diary of a madman; besides a few songs later on, his stuff is just not as good as his first two solo albums.

[Cantankerous]

i like them a lot, partiularly paranoid. dio can go to hell.

[pokkeherrie]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

dio can go to hell.

speaking of which, i just read that black sabbath are going to tour with ronnie james dio instead of ozzy next year under the name "heaven and hell".


i'll be staying home.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

It's easy to see the consensus of this board......most prefer Ozzy over Dio. I'm not going to argue this point as I more than understand why. Early Sabbath with Ozzy can't be beat......but let's take a closer look.

I was a huge Sabbath fan back in the late 70's / early 80's. Everyone couldn't believe it when Ozzy left for a solo carrier. To my ear's, the Dio Sabbath was a welcome change compared to, 'Never Say Die!' or 'Technical Ecstasy.' In my opinion, 'Sabotage' was the last great Ozzy Sabbath release......that was 31 years ago.

I can agree with you that Sabotage is the last great Ozzy/Sabbath record, but I also think it is one of the best of all. As for Dio's lyrics being deeper, I have to disagree completely.

[Everyneurotic]

geezer butler wrote the lyrics when ozzy was in the band, they tend to give him credit for it, though...sometimes ozzy ad libbed a couple of lines when a song was starting and geezer would flesh out the lyrics, sometimes geezer would do the whole thing himself.

[king_buzzo]

exactly.

anyways ozzys new album will be out in a few days i think. its not with zakk wylde so it might be interesting