Tell Me some Classic Industrial Albums

demonrail666 · 04.10.2007, 05:25 PM

One of those genres I've never really paid much attention to in the past. Which albums are generally considered the 'classics'?

Pookie · 04.10.2007, 05:30 PM

SPK - Leichenschrei
Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps
Test Dept. - Beating The Retreat

If you're interested in early influences, Edgard Varese's work, as well as Luigi Russolo.

atari 2600 · 04.10.2007, 05:33 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_music

the article mentions a lot of artists (Throbbing Gristle, Einstürzende Neubauten, Coil and Laibach; noise projects like Merzbow or Sutcliffe Jugend or writers like William S. Burroughs and J.G. Ballard.)
and notes the origins of industrial

Early influences
Luigi Russolo's 1913 work The Art of Noises is often cited as the first example of the industrial philosophy in modern music. After Russolo's musica futurista came Pierre Schaeffer and musique concrète, and this gave rise to early industrial music, which was made by manipulating cut sections of recording tape, and adding very early sound output from analog electronics devices.
Also important in the development of the genre was the Dada art movement, and later the Fluxus art movement.
Edgard Varèse was also a major pioneer in electronic music. His composition Poème électronique, for example, debuted at the 1958 Brussels World's Fair in the Philips Pavilion.
Lou Reed's 1975 record Metal Machine Music is widely considered in the industrial community the first actualized and sucessful Industrial album.

but the article
fails to mention Michael Gira/Swans or this one:
David Lynch - Eraserhead Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

Pookie · 04.10.2007, 05:37 PM

I was never a huge fan of Varese's work until I saw it perfomed live and I had some realisation of why people were often so outraged by it at the time. It must have been like making a Simply Red fan listen to Merzbow.

demonrail666 · 04.10.2007, 05:37 PM

Thanks for that.

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Originally Posted by atari 2600

but the article
fails to mention David Lynch - Eraserhead Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

Never really thought of it as being 'industrial', so to speak, which, is ironic becauase in that case it's one of the only 'industrial' records I have.

demonrail666 · 04.10.2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie

SPK - Leichenschrei

Thanks, been sort of curious about them for ages now.

MellySingsDoom · 04.10.2007, 05:42 PM

My vote would go to T Gristle's "DOA" and "Heathen Earth", if you can get past the (understandable) G P-Orridge annoyance factor.

04.10.2007, 05:42 PM

You MUST get Neubauten's Kollaps before anything. One of the most perfect records ever made.

Pookie · 04.10.2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Thanks, been sort of curious about them for ages now.

Personally, I would leave it at that album for SPK. They did a lot of BAD stuff: they made a record called Metal Dance! Imagine the horror.

atari 2600 · 04.10.2007, 05:45 PM

i'm no big industrial(ist), but...

Einstürzende Neubauten - Kollaps
Einstürzende Neubauten - Haus der Lüge
Swans - Greed
Swans - Children of God
Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Throbbing Gristle - Heathen Earth

(& if you consider these "industrial")
Foetus - Nail
Bauhaus - In the Flat Field
Ministry- Psalm 69
Suicide - Suicide
David Lynch - Eraserhead sdtrk
Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music

demonrail666 · 04.10.2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

My vote would go to T Gristle's "DOA" and "Heathen Earth", if you can get past the (understandable) G P-Orridge annoyance factor.

I'm reading Wreckers of Civillisation at the moment and find him a lot less annoying than I'd imagined. Picked up 20 Jazz Funk Greats and fucking love it.
I know it's meant to be there most accessible album, but my curiosity button is now definitely pushed.

Yeah, must get Kollaps too.

Nice thinking about a whole new genre to explore. Sure beats waiting for The Cramps to hit some form again.

demonrail666 · 04.10.2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie

they made a record called Metal Dance! Imagine the horror.

I'm imagining....AAAGHHHH!

Savage Clone · 04.10.2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie

Personally, I would leave it at that album for SPK. They did a lot of BAD stuff: they made a record called Metal Dance! Imagine the horror.

I don't have a problem with Information Overload Unit or Songs Of Byzantine Flowers, but yes, there are a lot of bad SPK records. Songs of Byzantine Flowers isn't really "industrial" per se, what with the strings and operatic vocals, but I like it nonetheless.

The compilation Vhutemas Archetypi is fairly essential in my opinion also; it contains tracks by Hunting Lodge (including their undeniable classic "Tribal Warning Shot"), SPK, Lustmord and early Laibach. Laibach were pretty great before they turned into a comedy machine.

Vhutemas Archetypi

Savage Clone · 04.10.2007, 05:53 PM

Current 93's "Dogs Blood Rising" and "Nature Unveiled" are pretty formidable as well. Who could have foreseen the folk direction they would take later when listening to these?

Oh, and 1970s Cabaret Voltaire is definitely "classic industrial" as well.

demonrail666 · 04.10.2007, 05:57 PM

I'm quite into listening to more of the British stuff at the moment. Not for patriotic reasons, just that I'm in the middle of researching something for my PhD and it seems to really fit in.

MellySingsDoom · 04.10.2007, 06:00 PM

(With apologies to demonrail666, who must have seen this coming a mile off):

04.10.2007, 06:00 PM

Clock DVA's White Souls In Black Suits is another good one.

demonrail666 · 04.10.2007, 06:01 PM

Would you say Birthdeath Experience is the one Whitehouse album to own?

- Shit, there's a lot of Industrial albums aren't there.

MellySingsDoom · 04.10.2007, 06:02 PM

atari 2600 · 04.10.2007, 06:02 PM

of course, Cabaret Voltaire...

this gal i used to know had a show called "Crisis Cabaret" where she played industrial...& i still for
got

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Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	SPK - Leichenschrei Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps Test Dept. - Beating The Retreat If you're interested in early influences, Edgard Varese's work, as well as Luigi Russolo.
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atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_music the article mentions a lot of artists (Throbbing Gristle, Einstürzende Neubauten, Coil and Laibach; noise projects like Merzbow or Sutcliffe Jugend or writers like William S. Burroughs and J.G. Ballard.) and notes the origins of industrial Early influences Luigi Russolo's 1913 work The Art of Noises is often cited as the first example of the industrial philosophy in modern music. After Russolo's musica futurista came Pierre Schaeffer and musique concrète, and this gave rise to early industrial music, which was made by manipulating cut sections of recording tape, and adding very early sound output from analog electronics devices. Also important in the development of the genre was the Dada art movement, and later the Fluxus art movement. Edgard Varèse was also a major pioneer in electronic music. His composition Poème électronique, for example, debuted at the 1958 Brussels World's Fair in the Philips Pavilion. Lou Reed's 1975 record Metal Machine Music is widely considered in the industrial community the first actualized and sucessful Industrial album. but the article fails to mention Michael Gira/Swans or this one: David Lynch - Eraserhead Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
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Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	I was never a huge fan of Varese's work until I saw it perfomed live and I had some realisation of why people were often so outraged by it at the time. It must have been like making a Simply Red fan listen to Merzbow.
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MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	My vote would go to T Gristle's "DOA" and "Heathen Earth", if you can get past the (understandable) G P-Orridge annoyance factor. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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04.10.2007, 05:42 PM	#8
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	You MUST get Neubauten's Kollaps before anything. One of the most perfect records ever made.
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04.10.2007, 05:45 PM	#10
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	i'm no big industrial(ist), but... Einstürzende Neubauten - Kollaps Einstürzende Neubauten - Haus der Lüge Swans - Greed Swans - Children of God Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats Throbbing Gristle - Heathen Earth (& if you consider these "industrial") Foetus - Nail Bauhaus - In the Flat Field Ministry- Psalm 69 Suicide - Suicide David Lynch - Eraserhead sdtrk Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,286	Current 93's "Dogs Blood Rising" and "Nature Unveiled" are pretty formidable as well. Who could have foreseen the folk direction they would take later when listening to these? Oh, and 1970s Cabaret Voltaire is definitely "classic industrial" as well.
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04.10.2007, 05:57 PM	#15
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,509	I'm quite into listening to more of the British stuff at the moment. Not for patriotic reasons, just that I'm in the middle of researching something for my PhD and it seems to really fit in.
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