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Old 03.15.2008, 04:10 PM   #1
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Old 03.15.2008, 04:40 PM   #2
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Old 03.15.2008, 07:34 PM   #3
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sorry to debunk yr conspiracy theory torn.... but every single one of the videos on that page includes the word "debunked" in the title.


not that it makes a whole lot of difference, when yr that into debunking the conspiracy theorists.... it's almost like you see them as some sort of massive... conspiracy.
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Old 03.15.2008, 08:05 PM   #4
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sorry to debunk yr conspiracy theory torn.... but every single one of the videos on that page includes the word "debunked" in the title.


not that it makes a whole lot of difference, when yr that into debunking the conspiracy theorists.... it's almost like you see them as some sort of massive... conspiracy.

yes.
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Old 03.15.2008, 09:02 PM   #5
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Old 03.15.2008, 09:42 PM   #6
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Old 03.16.2008, 05:47 AM   #7
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sorry to debunk yr conspiracy theory torn.... but every single one of the videos on that page includes the word "debunked" in the title.


not that it makes a whole lot of difference, when yr that into debunking the conspiracy theorists.... it's almost like you see them as some sort of massive... conspiracy.

Well the problem is in France we have Thierry Meyssan, a guy who said on TV no plane crashed on the Pentagon and other typical conpiracy theories, and since we've had a lot of people (including people who are not stupid at all) who think that he may be right. So I'm getting tired of the conspiracy theorists' fallacies because they do have an influence.
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Old 03.16.2008, 05:52 AM   #8
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Well the problem is in France we have Thierry Meyssan, a guy who said on TV no plane crashed on the Pentagon and other typical conpiracy theories, and since we've had a lot of people (including people who are not stupid at all) who think that he may be right.

did not know it was so big over there. thought only the right wing in the US was still all worked up about it. (not that i've forgotten... but i'd like to think i've moved on... was almost 7 years ago now.)

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So I'm getting tired of the conspiracy theorists' fallacies because they do have an influence.

i agree with you on that.... it's just this guy you linked to seems to be obsessed with proving the conspiracy theorists wrong.... so much so that he starts to look like one himself.
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Old 03.16.2008, 06:03 AM   #9
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i agree with you on that.... it's just this guy you linked to seems to be obsessed with proving the conspiracy theorists wrong.... so much so that he starts to look like one himself.

Yes, his method is kind of awkward and heavy in its systematism. I enjoyed his factual approach though, but the problem is it won't have an effect on people who aren't in rational thinking.
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Old 03.16.2008, 06:05 AM   #10
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There are certainly more pertinent conspiracy theories the US may or may not be running, than this.

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Old 05.17.2011, 10:10 AM   #11
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Top Secret Military Specialist April Gallop saw disturbing things up close that have not been reported in the media.
On the morning of September 11, 2001, she was ordered by her supervisor to go directly to work at the Pentagon, before dropping off her ten-week-old son Elisha at day care.
Amazingly, the infant was given immediate security clearance upon arrival.
The instant Gallop turned on her computer an enormous explosion blew her out of her chair, knocking her momentarily unconscious.
Escaping through the hole reportedly made by Flight 77, she saw no signs of an aircraft – no seats, luggage, metal, or human remains. Her watch (and other clocks nearby) had stopped at 9:30-9:31 a.m., seven minutes before the Pentagon was allegedly struck at 9:38 a.m.
The 9/11 Commission reported that "by no later than 9:18 a.m., FAA centers in Indianapolis, Cleveland, and Washington were aware that Flight 77 was missing and that two aircraft had struck the World Trade Center."
Why then were there no anti-aircraft defenses, Gallop asks, or alarm warnings inside the Pentagon?
Gallop was briefed by officials not to tell her story in public; she also received an email from a Fox News reporter who had been told by the Pentagon not to interview her.
Gallop now believes that officials within the Bush Administration conspired to destroy the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and WTC 7 – the third building brought down at 5:20 p.m. that day – with pre-placed explosives detonated after the planes hit.
On April 5th, 2011, at 11 a.m., at the Federal Courthouse at 141 Church Street in New Haven, Connecticut, the case of Gallop v. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers will be heard by the United States Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit.

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Bush court dismisses 9/11 suit against Bush officials, orders sanctions

Rather than judicially review significant evidence in the events of September 11, 2001, on April 27, the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a lower court's dismissal of an Army Specialist's complaint against former Vice President Dick Cheney, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Richard Myers.

One of Plaintiff April Gallop's attorneys, William Veale, didn't know whether to relate the decision to "Kafka, Orwell, Carroll, or Huxley," referring to the absurdity and dearth of reason emanating from the court regarding the deadliest attack on U.S. soil the nation has ever faced.

"The Court's decision, analogous to reviewing an Indictment in a liquor store hold-up without mentioning the guy walking in with a gun, refuses to acknowledge even the existence of the three defendants much less what they were doing that morning or saying about it afterwards," Veale added.

Of the three judges on the panel, John Mercer Walker, Jr. is first cousin of former President George H.W. Bush and first cousin once removed of George W. Bush, who used 9/11 to manipulate public emotion to support passage of the unconstitutional PATRIOT Acts and waging illegal wars of aggression in the Middle East. According to Wikipedia, Walker shares a grandfather with the 41st president, George Herbert Walker, whose daughter married Prescott Bush. A motion to force Judge Walker's removal from the case was denied, despite a clear conflict of interest.
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Old 05.17.2011, 10:44 AM   #13
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The thing about 9/11 Conspiracy theories is that they don't matter. I find that people waste a tremendous amount of time trying to debunk this or that. I just see it as people trying to find a reason to point out the governments wrong doing, when even the official narratives the government puts out are so biased and filled with fucked up shit. It's almost like people are looking for a hidden network of power, when the network of power is so obviously out in the open. The reason no one takes conspiracy theories seriously is either because you are "enslaved by the system" or because you can look at the objective facts and find their own inherent contradictions. It has nothing to do with a conspiracy of control, it's that "the system" is objectively contradictory and attempts to sustain itself in a myriad of different ways. I urge you tesla, to stop looking for easy answers.
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