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Originally Posted by pbradley

Your Mothers Against Hard Rock invitation is in the mail.

He isn't as consistent as the PMRC. They want to protect children from music they can't handle themselves. He wants to protect children from music he thinks he's adult enough for. I think I prefer the PMRC to that.

[Dead-Air]

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro

I know people who hate it for those reasons, and quite a few I know from this board, doesn't mean I agree with them at all.

Well, I am glad you recognize that in the song. I am all about interpretation, allegory, metaphor and the like.

Well, I think putting too much thought along those lines into "Goo" is pretty silly in it's own right. It's just a fun rocking little song full of childlike energy. Writing a college thesis on the deeper meaning probably isn't advised.

[RanaldoNecro]

Maybe someone should ask Ronald Goldman's father about the limits of free speech? Maybe he has an opinion....

I am sure he liked buying a copy of a book on how his son got murdered.

Persoanlly I can't wait to cash in on the next innocent's victims colossal tragedy.

Taste, cosideration and context are irrlevant in the free speech USA...

[Dead-Air]

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro

Maybe someone should ask Ronald Goldman's father about the limits of free speech? Maybe he has an opinion....

I am sure he liked buying a copy of a book on how his son got murdered.

Persoanlly I can't wait to cash in on the next innocent's victims colossal tragedy.

Taste, cosideration and context are irrlevant in the free speech USA...

You're going further and further out on a limb all of the time. You are now equating Sonic Youth's music to O.J. Simpson which is even sillier than your Faces of Death comparison. Stop and think a second how ridiculous you are sounding here.

[fluxequalsrad]

Bull in the Heather,

it has counting and everything!

[RanaldoNecro]

Yes, I know it is crazy and of course this a goated argument. But, it is interesteing to see the limits?

SY push the limits of free speech and it is an issue they seem preoccupied with...

[✌➬]

Kotton Krown
Teenage Riot
Sympathy for the Strawberry
Stones
Sunday

[wontgetfooledagain]

I think that Teenage Riot would be a good song to play for kids at that age, I mean, it has the Kim intro with the catchy childhood phrases (the whole "You're it" thing comes to mind). I also like SY's cover of "Superstar", really catchy and not overtly offensive.

[Dead-Air]

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro

SY push the limits of free speech and it is an issue they seem preoccupied with...

Do they really? Maybe the cover of Goo, but then that was Raymond Pettibon. Lyrically and performance wise, I don't think SY have ever been as confrontational as G.G. Allin, Lisa Suckdog, or even Michael Gira. Certainly in the mid-eighties they were a little bit closer aligned with that side of the underground scene, but even then they were hardly close to the limit, and that was decades ago. Today I don't know that they push the limits of free speech particularly more than Madonna does.

[RanaldoNecro]

Its tough to be shocking all the time...It takes work

[jedster1969]

kinda tangential, but when my daughter was two months old and in the middle of colicky hell, she sat down with me calmly through 25 minutes of the Diamond Sea :-)

actually some infants respond really well to noise....SY worked about as well as running the vacuum cleaner in our case

[couch]

My 15 month old son rocks out to SY like no one else, complete with head bouncing and woo-woo-wooning like a pow-wow indian. He doesn't quite get DNA, though. Most of the time I can't hear the words to SY's music, I would hope kids would ignore the lyrics too, and just freak out to the feedback, like good little soldiers.

[ellesibee]

Originally Posted by jedster1969

kinda tangential, but when my daughter was two months old and in the middle of colicky hell, she sat down with me calmly through 25 minutes of the Diamond Sea :-)

actually some infants respond really well to noise....SY worked about as well as running the vacuum cleaner in our case

Aw, that just made me so happy! I have always considered playing the Diamond Sea as they are drifting off to sleep... I know when I'm stressed and can't fall asleep, the noise calms me down, so it would probably work wonders on some children!

[Dead-Air]

Originally Posted by jedster1969

kinda tangential, but when my daughter was two months old and in the middle of colicky hell, she sat down with me calmly through 25 minutes of the Diamond Sea :-)

actually some infants respond really well to noise....SY worked about as well as running the vacuum cleaner in our case

Funny you should mention the vacuum cleaner. When I was a baby, my parents tell me, they used to run the vacuum cleaner to get me to fall asleep when nothing else would work. I've always figured that made me a prime Sonic Youth fan in later years!

[pbradley]

I would clock out hard in the car so easily that my parents would drive me around if I was particularly grumpy or something. Sounds awful now with the gas prices.

Also the lyrics to "Junkie's Promise" will not inspire your children to shoot up heroin. I have yet to hear any claims of people either addicted or criminally inclined to have ever cited song lyrics for their turn in life.

[evollove]

Update?

Ellesibee- Did you end up doing it? What tracks did you pick?

[This Is Not Here]

Jams Run Free would be great for kids.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by evollove

I'm gonna have to rain on the parade with my two cents. Most adults can't tolerate SY. I cannot possibly image a five year old embracing them. In fact, I'll go further and say that the five year old who DOES embrace them should be considered a highly dangerous individual.

There's a record called "Ramones for Kids." Break 'em in with that.

Children are way more open to music than adults. They don't have any preconceived notions of what music is supposed to be. My 2 year old nephew and I jam sometimes, and he has a lot of fun making some weird music with me.

I'd second Jams Run Free. Perfect song.

[ellesibee]

I actually ended up playing Jams Run Free for the kids pretty often! Maybe this school year I'll play them some more tunes

[SYRFox]

I suggest Kill Yr Idols, My Arena or Master-Dik