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View Poll Results: when will the man be overthrown?
in about 10 years 2 5.00%
within our lifetimes (generally speaking) 16 40.00%
about 100 years 7 17.50%
in far more than 100 years 1 2.50%
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:42 AM   #101
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lest we forget, !"$%!....

ive only spat upon terry eagleton, who is not present, but yet deserves the spit.
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:45 AM   #102
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the wheen biography looks interesting on the other hand.
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:48 AM   #103
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Come on !@... Not like you to stay on the fence.

are you telling me what to do? communist!!
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:50 AM   #104
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No, comrade. I'm advising you for the sake of the party.
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:51 AM   #105
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No, comrade. I'm advising you for the sake of the party.

i can see the future... it's a gulag...!
(would you accept a bribe of american cigarettes?)
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:51 AM   #106
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The Comintern has decided to liquidate this thread, for the benefit of the people. The following posters are traitors to the people....
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:52 AM   #107
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I can see the future...it's another thread about Billy Coogan.
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:53 AM   #108
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it wasnt a pigsty. it was nice and dignified. but you had to consult with the fucking mass for every change.

communists driving sports cars? im definitely not surprised. communism has often been a hobby of rich capitalists with bad conscience.
You'd be surprised how many wealthy people finance such political ventures. Their conscience might be corrupted, but their political ideas tells them that clearly this system doesn't work. For as long as they keep this sort of political activity afloat, who cares?
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:53 AM   #109
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Billy Coogan? Who is he, some sort of wannabe Bernard Manning?
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:56 AM   #110
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lol. All this chat of revolution has got my mind off my spelling.
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:57 AM   #111
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Old 05.07.2007, 08:58 AM   #112
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Old 05.07.2007, 09:00 AM   #113
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You'd be surprised how many wealthy people finance such political ventures. Their conscience might be corrupted, but their political ideas tells them that clearly this system doesn't work. For as long as they keep this sort of political activity afloat, who cares?

well porkie i'll just have to respectfully disagree. the problem with utopias is that "there is no such place", and dreams turn into monstrosities when implemented. i also like money; of al the exchange methods invented so far it's the one that best balances fairness and convenience. (did you know the modern banking system was invented by socialist st.simonians? but i digress). i like money. it allows me choice. limited, sure, but mine. i am also horrified at the thought of world communism, because there would be nowhere to escape to. at least with he berlin wall there was something on the other side. then there's cuba. swim, swim, swim.

i hope this has not been a gigantic put-on. i am surprise to hear you promoting communism, but anything is possible on the internet.
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Old 05.07.2007, 09:03 AM   #114
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i am surprise to hear you promoting communism, but anything is possible on the internet.

You think this is bad? He keeps ringing me up every 30 minutes to sell me double glazing
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Old 05.07.2007, 09:07 AM   #115
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You think this is bad? He keeps ringing me up every 30 minutes to sell me double glazing

take it now, and tell him you'll pay back, with interest, in the communist future
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Old 05.07.2007, 09:11 AM   #116
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well porkie i'll just have to respectfully disagree. the problem with utopias is that "there is no such place", and dreams turn into monstrosities when implemented. i also like money; of al the exchange methods invented so far it's the one that best balances fairness and convenience. (did you know the modern banking system was invented by socialist st.simonians? but i digress). i like money. it allows me choice. limited, sure, but mine. i am also horrified at the thought of world communism, because there would be nowhere to escape to. at least with he berlin wall there was something on the other side. then there's cuba. swim, swim, swim.

i hope this has not been a gigantic put-on. i am surprise to hear you promoting communism, but anything is possible on the internet.
I'm not promoting anything here( as if that was a possible thing to do), they are just my political ideas. The fact that you disagree with them is fine and dandy, but the name of the thread is revolution, so i thought that so far we've been having a discussion about it. Of course if your inclination is that of accepting things as they are, you might as well make the most of it, i have no problems with that at all. Cuba is again a dictatorship, so i don't consider it to be a communist country, because like i've posted before, YOU CAN'T HAVE A SINGLE COMMUNIST COUNTRY. Luckily nobody came forward in defence of grand dame of heroism Che Guevera, the most stupid revolutionary man in the history of uselessness.
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Old 05.07.2007, 09:12 AM   #117
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Capitalism's greatest achievment in sustaining its life has been its ability to provide people with a comfort zone. A revolution won't happen until people are prepared to give up that comfort zone and actually start wondering about what it is that they really want in life. Whether this leads them to embrace a system like Communism is immaterial, but the system we have right now is definitely beginning to show its age.
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Old 05.07.2007, 09:17 AM   #118
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im starting to feel this has been a huge put-on, to toy with my head. but then again ive been up all night; and with sleep deprivation, paranoia ensues. who knows? i dont know. i want some money now....

the only communist i like by the way is the genius who came up with the slow foods movement. some italian guy i forget his name. slow foods. now we're talking...
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Old 05.07.2007, 09:43 AM   #119
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Again, that IS NOT communism that you're talking about. Your role would be dictated by the very system that encourages your true self to come to the fore.
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Old 05.07.2007, 10:04 AM   #120
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A Philosopher-King meritocracy would be nice until the inevitable corruption turned it into fascism.

The only way to govern is through a representative democracy and an economy based on free enterprise. It'd be great to get one back in America again because without it we will eventually fall on our face due to the schemers that are running this nation into the ground. But that doesn't seem likely in the near future unless We The People take away all repeat terms of major office with a constiututional amendement. The crooks have shown time and time again that they are not really serious about campaign finance reform by repeatedly passing bills that have obvious loopholes.

I agree with !@#$%!. "The Man" will be with us until the planet is uninhabitable.

The ironic thing is that relativity and particle physics has confirmed that all is One and that, here on our planet, the ecosystem is interdependent, yet all political organization still insists on "master-servant" types of relationships with its citizens. This is underlined by the sad fact that a way to a free energy "utopia" for the entire world has already been discovered, but there is too much vested interest for us to ever get there.

Laurie Anderson's new satirical song, "Only An Expert Can Deal With The Problem," addresses this topic subject to astonishingly rousing effect. The track will (I suppose) appear on next year's Homeland album, but she did it live at Lincoln Center on 4/30/07.

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Now, who are these "experts?"
An "expert" is a professional problem-solver.
An "expert" is someone who carries malpractice insurance. (gets a big laugh from the audience)
Because often the solution to the problem is...
a problem.


An estimated 60% of Americans are an estimated 1.3 paychecks away from homelessness.
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