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Old 10.26.2007, 12:42 AM   #101
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painting a wall white or nailing some tinfoil to it (yeah there really is a piece of tinfoil in the modern art museum in paris nailed to a white wall) is not art. it's self-indulgence.
anything to make a quick buck i suppose.
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Old 10.26.2007, 12:59 AM   #102
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painting a wall white or nailing some tinfoil to it (yeah there really is a piece of tinfoil in the modern art museum in paris nailed to a white wall) is not art.

...yeah and john cage didn't make music
and allen ginsberg didn't write poetry
and warehouses aren't architecture, they're building construction
and hollywood doesn't make films, only movies
and mystery novels aren't literature
and america has no culture
and comic books are only for kids
and suvs aren't trucks
and burritos aren't a breakfast food
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Old 10.26.2007, 01:05 AM   #103
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everything you're saying is null and void

john cage did make music, ginsberg DID write poetry, et al
SUVs are just trucks with a roof
america may be full of assholes but so is every other country in the world and we do have culture you just gotta dig beneath the media's portrayal to find it.
all definitions are debatable and defensible (or is it defendable)
i just don't personally believe that nailing a ball of aluminum to a wall counts as art
thanks for attacking my opinion

ps: no such thing as breakfast food, i'll eat whatever i damn well please for breakfast
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Old 10.26.2007, 01:06 AM   #104
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There has to be a line drawn somewhere. Right now, you could actually go to court and defend reprehensible behaviour by claiming it as art; if you know enough about it...

Then again, that defeats the very purpose of art, which is to challenge the limits and boundaries of human understanding...
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Old 10.26.2007, 01:08 AM   #105
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Old 10.26.2007, 02:21 AM   #106
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Old 10.26.2007, 02:45 AM   #107
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...yeah and john cage didn't make music
and allen ginsberg didn't write poetry
and warehouses aren't architecture, they're building construction
and hollywood doesn't make films, only movies
and mystery novels aren't literature
and america has no culture
and comic books are only for kids
and suvs aren't trucks
and burritos aren't a breakfast food

America has plenty of culture, its just the kind you have to swab and grow in a petri dish
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Old 10.26.2007, 11:17 AM   #108
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dude, yr from fucking london. i highly doubt youve ever really spent all that much time here and the only shit ya know about this country comes from the media/movies. i bet allllll you brits have tea time and speak very proper english.

Of course we do!

Dont forget the crumpets

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Old 10.30.2007, 03:04 PM   #109
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that is very very wrong. has he been prosecuted for that?
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Old 10.30.2007, 04:21 PM   #110
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that is very very wrong. has he been prosecuted for that?

He should have been

And if all you have to do to be an artist is tie a half dead dog to a wall and watch it die, that makes every asshole who has been cruel to an animal an artist too

I wonder if this guy will throw a sack full of kittens in the river for his next exhibit
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Old 12.04.2007, 07:26 PM   #111
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all this was just fake information.


ACLARACION DE GALERIA CODICE


ACLARACION DE GALERIA CODICEManagua, 19 de octubre Galería Códice desde su creación en 1991, ha promovido las artes visuales centroamericanas, pero especialmente las nicaragüenses, tanto en el nivel nacional, como en el regional e internacional. En Códice han expuesto grandes maestros centroamericanos, así como artistas consolidados y emergentes. Los lenguajes contemporáneos del arte universal también han tenido espacio en Códice, por lo que periódicamente acoge muestras de arte conceptual. Con ese espíritu, el jueves 16 de agosto recién pasado se presentó Exposición No.1, del artista costarricense, Guillermo Vargas, conocido artísticamente como HABACUC. Uno de los trabajos expuestos consistió en presentar a un perro famélico que Habacuc recogió de la calle, y durante la exposición aparecía amarrado con una cuerda de nylon, que a su vez estaba sujeta a otra cuerda que pendía de dos clavos en una esquina de la Galería. Habucuc nombró al perro “Natividad” en homenaje al nicaragüense Natividad Canda (24 años) quien murió devorado por dos perros Rottweiler en un taller de San José, Costa Rica, la madrugada del jueves 10 de noviembre de 2005. El perro permaneció en el local tres días, a partir de las 5 de la tarde del miércoles 15 de agosto. Estuvo suelto todo el tiempo en el patio interior, excepto las 3 horas que duró la muestra, fue alimentado regularmente con comida de perro que el mismo Habucuc trajo. Sorpresivamente, al amanecer del viernes 17, el perro se escapó pasando por las verjas de hierro de la entrada principal del inmueble, mientras el vigilante nocturno quien acababa de alimentarlo limpiaba la acera exterior del mismo. La Galería Códice se reserva el derecho de velar por la calidad de los trabajos expuestos, respetando en todo momento la creatividad del artista y jamás ha pretendido ejercer ningún tipo de censura, siempre y cuando no atenten contra los principios elementales de la ética y mucho menos que impliquen la vida de un ser viviente, sea humano o animal. Yo pensaba quedarme con “Natividad”, pero él prefirió retornar a su propio habitat. Celebro el que tantas personas en el nivel internacional se hayan mostrado molestas por las declaraciones brindadas por Habacuc, en las que sostenía que su intención era dejar morir al perro de inanición, lo que es de su absoluta responsabilidad. Al cumplir con informar la verdad de los hechos, espero que todas esas mismas personas hayan elevado también su voz de repudio cuando Natividad Canda fue devorado por los Rottweiler. Atentamente, Juanita BermúdezDirectoraGalería CódiceManagua, Nicaragua http://www-usa.laprensa.com.ni/archi...ticias/cartas/


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Old 12.04.2007, 07:42 PM   #112
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Old 12.04.2007, 07:57 PM   #113
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I've read about this so-called artist. he was responsible for the cat juggling craze a few years back. sick.
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Old 12.04.2007, 07:58 PM   #114
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Old 12.04.2007, 10:23 PM   #115
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Old 12.05.2007, 01:07 AM   #116
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i didn't read through the whole htread so i dunno if anyone has mentioned this but, there's some trend where women in high heels step on kitties and small animals and shove their heels down throats etc...

http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/crushvideo.asp
there's the link to some photos if anyone's daring enough. i couldn't bear to look at more than two of them, i actually started tearing up a bit.
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Old 12.05.2007, 01:26 AM   #117
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wow, I rarely choose to "turn back" when it comes to disturbing images but that kitten on that page was too cute

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Old 12.05.2007, 01:50 AM   #118
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everything you're saying is null and void

john cage did make music, ginsberg DID write poetry, et al
SUVs are just trucks with a roof
america may be full of assholes but so is every other country in the world and we do have culture you just gotta dig beneath the media's portrayal to find it.
all definitions are debatable and defensible (or is it defendable)
i just don't personally believe that nailing a ball of aluminum to a wall counts as art
thanks for attacking my opinion

ps: no such thing as breakfast food, i'll eat whatever i damn well please for breakfast


"art is anything you can get away with"

maybe so, andy warhol.
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Cruelty if you ask me.



 


Guillermo Habacuc Vargas had 2 children catch this dog. He paid the kids for this. He then chained the dog and used the dog as “art”. He told everyone not to feed this dog. The dog died in the gallery. He calls himself an artist. I call him an animal abuser. In that event, (in which the dog died) he was chosen to represent his country in the “Bienal Centroamericana Honduras 2008?.
October 18th, 2007 | by Ginnie

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except for this! holy shit i didn't even read this before. that is so utterly fucking wrong and evil! because animals can't voice their own opinions shit like this should be 100% illegal, no tolerance.
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Old 12.05.2007, 02:51 AM   #119
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no no no

it was a fake

a way to get bleeding hearts to say WTF???

while considering the dogs & not the humans

A PLOY

people devoured by rottweilers

PEOPLE EATEN ALIVE BY ROTTWEILERS

PEOPLE EATEN ALIVE BY ROTTWEILERS

PEOPLE EATEN ALIVE BY ROTTWEILERS

that was the point
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Old 12.05.2007, 03:24 AM   #120
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i'll second that. i can't stand people who care about the welfare of an animal over that of a fellow human being... i'm just incapable of understanding that.
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