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Old 04.04.2018, 10:26 AM   #49481
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for maximum lols i like “el justiciero”. ha ha ha ha. which is a parody of leftist interpretations of popular suffering, cast in a musical mish-mash. kinda like “el zorro”. but yeah, the lyrics are important in that one.


Found this in youtube comments. Any good?

They are mixing portuguese and spanish, it's satirizing hispanic-american stereotypes, so there's no literal translation, but the song is about a guy like Clint Eastwood's "Man with no name", the Justiciero, he brings justice, something like that.

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I was JUST thinking how I haven't heard Highway 61 Revisited in many, many years. It was my Top 5 favorite albums for nearly a decade. Might spin it. Might just enjoy the mind-radio version I have playing.
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Old 04.04.2018, 11:16 AM   #49482
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yeah it’s a hilarious word salad in 4 languages and containing many musical and word jokes. it’s all jokes.

El justiciero
Os Mutantes
Once upon a time when the hot sun
Was fading behind the mountains.
The shadow of a strong man
With a gun in his hand, raised to protect
The poor people of the haciendas
They called him, El Justiciero
He, El Justiciero buenos dias
Que tienes a decir
El Justiciero yo soy pobre
Que tienes a me dar
Tiengo chocolate quiente
Tequila, paga lo que deves
El Justiciero cha, cha, cha
Que otra cosa puedo dar
El Justiciero cha, cha, cha
Que otra cosa puedo dar
El Justiciero yo tengo 30 hijos con hambre
La guerra, la guerra me ay strupatto tanto bene
Socuerro El Justiciero, ajuda-me por favor
He, El Justiciero buenos dias
Que tienes a decir
El Justiciero yo soy pobre
Que tienes a me dar
Besa me mucho juanita
Banana, quando calienta sol
El Justiciero cha, cha, cha
Que otra…



besides the flamenco guitar and rhythm changes there are phrases from popular songs there, “besame mucho” (a famous bolero), “toma chocolate paga lo que debes” (from “el bodeguero”, which was a cha-cha-cha, or: a mambo for white people who couldn’t dance to black rhythms, and while originally cuban was made popular by nat king cole), “cuando calienta el sol” (a spanish pop song of the time), 'qué otra cosa puedo dar" comes from "sabor a mí " which is a superpopular bolero, “juanita banana” which is a gringo atrocity reminiscent i guess of poor carmen miranda https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Banana_(song), etc. etc. , and the italian is suggestive of the spaghetti western yeah. the lady who sings claims to have “30 children” who go hungry.

anyway. all of this, all of tropicália, goes back to oswald de andrade, who was a great poet in the early XX century, and his “cannibal manifesto” (inspired by the natives eating some calvinist missionaries in the 16th century i think), asking brazilian poets to incorporate and assimilate all influences, and make them theirs. so tropicalia added all sorts of things to traditional brazilian music (and earned the hate of right and left). and os mutantes, who were younger and more playful and got more high more often than gil and veloso, took it to some great extremes.

eta: oh yeah ha ha ha ha check out juanita banana https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nrcK7zeMnSI
what a horror lol

there’s a great documentary about carmen miranda, “bananas is my business”, kinda supertragic, a woman trapped to death by the stereotypes she embodied.

 


(but fortunately we have os mutantes to make us laugh)
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Old 04.04.2018, 11:51 AM   #49483
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another reconstitution:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sivuca’s maria fulô

miriam makeba 1966
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh6eA1WF-EM

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Old 04.04.2018, 12:41 PM   #49484
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caetano_Veloso’s “baby”

original “straight” version sung by gal costa (they cowrote i think), 1968
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ey65touQaY

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and it was great yeah. but i still like the rolling stones cover of like a rolling stone the best. yes, i have very vulgar tastes. im actually listening to a bunch of covers of that right now. hendrix, etc. great great fucking song.

Whoah. Seriously? I mean, it’s a decent and clever cover (I saw them both play it in concert, so I’m no Stones hater), but FUCK ME the original is tear-inducingly beautiful in its epic jangley awesomeness. Goddamn.

Highway 61 Recisited is the best Dylan album too. It’s like the White Album of Dylan albums.
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Whoah. Seriously? I mean, it’s a decent and clever cover (I saw them both play it in concert, so I’m no Stones hater), but FUCK ME the original is tear-inducingly beautiful in its epic jangley awesomeness. Goddamn.

Highway 61 Recisited is the best Dylan album too. It’s like the White Album of Dylan albums.

yeah, it's great

but i think it's jagger's voice that puts that version slightly over the other one for me. funny thing he introduces it by saying that dylan "wrote it for us". really? lol. hmmm... anyway, it’s kinda anthemic, and the harmonica at the end sounds great. can’t explain.

but anyway great song either way. hendrix has a couple of live versions too and the winterland one is great (this is a new-rehash posthumous album looks like).
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yeah, it's great

but i think it's jagger's voice that puts that version slightly over the other one for me. funny thing he introduces it by saying that dylan "wrote it for us". really? lol. hmmm... anyway, it’s kinda anthemic, and the harmonica at the end sounds great. can’t explain.

but anyway great song either way. hendrix has a couple of live versions too and the winterland one is great (this is a new-rehash posthumous album looks like).

Yeaaaaahh I’m pretty sure that song was not written for The Rolling Stones. Hah.

Like both versions fine, but if jangle is your thangle, it’s Highway or the highway.
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Yeaaaaahh I’m pretty sure that song was not written for The Rolling Stones. Hah.

Like both versions fine, but if jangle is your thangle, it’s Highway or the highway.
yeah, i was laughing. wish it were a video so i could see his lying face ha ha.

i don’t know what jangle is here but the dylan version has the better piano. great piano all throughout that album. i gotta investigate who did it and pursue.

musically the dylan version is better no question. i mean it’s an impeccable song. he recorded it like i’m sure it sounded in his head, or as close to what he wanted, except maybe for his horrible nasal timbre ha ha ha, but he did hit every note and every inflection just right, and the song is priceless.

the stones version is quite cheesy in fact. but i do like my velveeta every now and then in a spam sandwich haaa haaa haaaa. yeah. dorito-stuffed. and larded with mayo from a jar. the stones version is worse, but i like it more. like i said, i have vulgar tastes. i don’t mind on occasion having my emotions manipulated with obviously coarse tools. i like a little bit of stadium feeling every now and then, like an ape. for this i pity me! ha ha ha.
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Vomitific? Hey fuck You! Highway 61 > you.

You did click on the link and are just messing with me, right? It gets harder and harder to tell these days... Of course, if you hadn't read Dylan's own description of "Like A Rolling Stone" as "vomitific" before, then I don't know how many rocks you've been living under.

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You did click on the link and are just messing with me, right? It gets harder and harder to tell these days... Of course, if you hadn't read Dylan's own description of "Like A Rolling Stone" as "vomitific" before, then I don't know how many rocks you've been living under.

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Nah I know you’re a huge Dylan fan. I was messing.

But I did not know Dylan had called the song “vomitific,” so apparently I’m some kind of crab or earthworm.

Nice bedroom. I used to have Sonic Youth over my bed like that. Then Coltrane.
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...and then your girlfriend took over the place?
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More or less, yes.

I actually used to have a great like 8-foot Thiusand Leaves poster too that stretched from floor to ceiling in one of our apartments. I think it stayed up for about a week before it started to creep her out. Me, I love it. But yeah, wooden indoor wind chimes (for what though?) and other snit took its place.
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