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Old 02.20.2008, 03:25 PM   #21
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I judge, you judge, we all judge. People judge. It's a consequence of being alive. You're an idiot, I judge. Maybe I'm wrong? Unlikely, mind you.
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Old 02.20.2008, 03:34 PM   #22
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I judge, you judge, we all judge. People judge. It's a consequence of being alive. You're an idiot, I judge. Maybe I'm wrong? Unlikely, mind you.

much oblidged for yr insight regarding myself there, I suppose were really know each other so well here....

remember, whether or not you agree with me or like me or think I am a dumb piece of shit, the system will collapse and its heart will stop because it was founded on and perpetuates continual injustice. there are two options, collapse with it or rise above it.
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Old 02.20.2008, 03:42 PM   #23
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Ha. That was genuinely quite funny.
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Old 02.20.2008, 03:43 PM   #24
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Y'know, 'cos of the 'it's all opinions' first bit which was entirely contradicted by apocalyptic prophecy.
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Old 02.20.2008, 03:43 PM   #25
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Which is an opinion.
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Old 02.20.2008, 03:43 PM   #26
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And therfore ironic. And funny. You see?
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Old 02.20.2008, 03:44 PM   #27
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Y'know, 'cos of the 'it's all opinions' first bit which was entirely contradicted by apocalyptic prophecy.

its not my business what you can and can not see right in front of yr face. prophecy comes from a lot of sources. The Prime Minister of Italy, Crispi, in 1885 said that 20,000 troops couldn't possibly stop the Ethiopians, and yet ten years later that is exactly what he sent to try to invade Ethiopia with, less in fact, 10,000 italians and 5,000 eritreans. he should have took his own advice.

another Euro in Ethiopia, Gleichen on the expedition to Menelik in 1897, said that the province of Harar if properly irrigated could become the bread basket of North Africa and the Middle East. Today, this project is being completed and should be a success by 2012.
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Old 02.20.2008, 03:51 PM   #28
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its not my business what you can and can not see right in front of yr face. prophecy comes from a lot of sources. The Prime Minister of Italy, Crispi, in 1885 said that 20,000 troops couldn't possibly stop the Ethiopians, and yet ten years later that is exactly what he sent to try to invade Ethiopia with, less in fact, 10,000 italians and 5,000 eritreans. he should have took his own advice.

another Euro in Ethiopia, Gleichen on the expedition to Menelik in 1897, said that the province of Harar if properly irrigated could become the bread basket of North Africa and the Middle East. Today, this project is being completed and should be a success by 2012.

there's a difference between prophecy and stating the obvious though, isn't there?
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there's a difference between prophecy and stating the obvious though, isn't there?

no, that is the whole point, we think of prophecy as being far more mystical and forgeting it is often times very practical.

ya'll act like I am a novelty character on A Different World or something,



 
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Old 02.20.2008, 04:13 PM   #30
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no, that is the whole point, we think of prophecy as being far more mystical and forgeting it is often times very practical.

to be honest, i'm not really sure how to respond to this, i didn't anticipate you answering a rhetorical question with the wrong answer.
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to be honest, i'm not really sure how to respond to this, i didn't anticipate you answering a rhetorical question with the wrong answer.

i think it is bitterly Ironic that instead of taking the opportunity to mash down racism, many people here just took the time to mash down me. why is that? couldn't they just have let it be, or contributed positively to the discussion against racism, you'd almost believe they were for racism, since they spent more time mashing down myself, and completely ignoring the issue. maybe they should become politicians, they are always good at using red herring arguments..
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There is no "mashing down" to be done.
It will always exist in some way or another, and it's not always from white people against non-whites either.
No to mention the fact that no one has the power to change the ideas in someone else's head. A hardcore racist will only feel galvanized by cartoonish rhetoric.
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i think it is bitterly Ironic that instead of taking the opportunity to mash down racism, many people here just took the time to mash down me. why is that? couldn't they just have let it be, or contributed positively to the discussion against racism, you'd almost believe they were for racism, since they spent more time mashing down myself, and completely ignoring the issue. maybe they should become politicians, they are always good at using red herring arguments..

sorry, i can't take this on board at the moment, i'm still trying to get my head around the concept of practical prophecies.
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There is no "mashing down" to be done.
It will always exist in some way or another, and it's not always from white people against non-whites either.
No to mention the fact that no one has the power to change the ideas in someone else's head. A hardcore racist will only feel galvanized by cartoonish rhetoric.

no we dont have the power to change the ideas in people's own heads, but we do have the power to expose them to the opportunity for such change, and all racism is really rhetoric anyways, if we mash down the rhetoric, we begin to starve the cancer from fresh blood. oh yeah, and in case it was not brutally clear, this thread was against racism in ALL its forms, not limited to the black-white model.
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i think it is bitterly Ironic that instead of taking the opportunity to mash down racism, many people here just took the time to mash down me. why is that? couldn't they just have let it be, or contributed positively to the discussion against racism, you'd almost believe they were for racism, since they spent more time mashing down myself, and completely ignoring the issue. maybe they should become politicians, they are always good at using red herring arguments..

Why do we have to be 'against' racism? Isn't it a symptom of various inadequacies? Doesn't Jesus teach us to love our neighbour?

I'll extrapolate on an earlier point: it isn't a simple case of 'for' and 'against'. Wouldn't you be racist if you lived in Gaza? Or at least find it exceptionally hard not to be? Or if your entire experience of races other than your own was negative? Or if you were living on the shit end of apartheid-era [insert country of choice]? Or lived in the racially-prescribed underclass of [insert country of choice]? Do I need etcs?
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Did Glice just indirectly quote Jesus?


To be fair, "Jesus" is the guy who does the washing up at the coffeeshop where Glice hangs out. He talks to himself all day.
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Why do we have to be 'against' racism? Isn't it a symptom of various inadequacies? Doesn't Jesus teach us to love our neighbour?

I'll extrapolate on an earlier point: it isn't a simple case of 'for' and 'against'. Wouldn't you be racist if you lived in Gaza? Or at least find it exceptionally hard not to be? Or if your entire experience of races other than your own was negative? Or if you were living on the shit end of apartheid-era [insert country of choice]? Or lived in the racially-prescribed underclass of [insert country of choice]? Do I need etcs?

you have lost me with your bullshit. of course we have to be against racism, for racism is the first step in which causes the issues in Gaza to begin with, it is zionist racism against arabs which perpetuates this issue. or apartheid, which was instituted by racist Euro-Afrikaans, against black south africans. If these groups become racist against their oppressors, it is only because of the racism inflicted agains them, and if the first instance or racism was erradicated at the start, then the latter would not even evolve. your arguments are far to circular my friend.
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We all indirectly quote Jesus, badly.
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To be fair, "Jesus" is the guy who does the washing up at the coffeeshop where Glice hangs out. He talks to himself all day.

The notion that I would ever hang out in a coffeeshop is more offensive to me than almost everything I've ever read.
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