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Old 11.05.2013, 11:51 AM   #481
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Old 11.05.2013, 01:08 PM   #482
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Old 11.05.2013, 02:06 PM   #483
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The analysis also identified 603 potential exoplanets, including 10 Earth-size candidates orbiting in a habitable zone.

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A separate analysis by Borucki's Kepler team announced 833 new planetary candidates, bringing the total to 3,538.

All the rest (the billions mentioned) was speculation based around estimates on certain stars, and the study itself was sort of haphazard in its approach and methodology. I'll wait until they actually start counting these exoplanets rather than estimating their existance before I sip on the kool-aid err.. celebratory champagne
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Old 11.05.2013, 02:11 PM   #484
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Old 11.05.2013, 09:57 PM   #485
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Old 11.13.2013, 12:30 PM   #486
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Old 12.13.2013, 03:46 PM   #487
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Ultimately, the authors of the Nature paper put the inner edge of the habitable zone – the edge closer to the sun – at 0.95 AU. The difference, 0.04 AU, doesn’t sound like much, but comes out to 3.7 million miles – and it gives Earth a decent amount of breathing room.
“This has strong implications for the possibility of liquid water existing on Venus early in its history, and extends the size of the habitable zone around other stars,” the Nature study authors wrote.
But it also means that the estimated 22 billion Earth-like planets around sun-like stars, based on a minimum distance from the sun of 0.5 AU, “could be too high by a factor of almost 2,” Kasting and Harman said.


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Hmmm.. so one shakey paper published gets all kinds of international media attention pontificating about "billions" of exoplanets based on extremely limited data from a now non-functioning telescope, and lo-and-behold another paper disputes those findings...
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Old 12.13.2013, 04:00 PM   #488
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since the 60's, Venus, at 7.1(+) AU has been considered just inside the Goldilocks Zone by most scientists.

based upon solar flux and the luminosity of the stars which Exoplanents orbit, this can shrink to .5 AU.

not all suns are the same.

I believe that so-called "shakey paper" to be erroring too far on the side of caution.
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Old 12.13.2013, 04:16 PM   #489
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Hmmm.. so one shakey paper published gets all kinds of international media attention pontificating about "billions" of exoplanets based on extremely limited data from a now non-functioning telescope, and lo-and-behold another paper disputes those findings...

what did you expect? science is one continuous testing and retesting and discussion--a neverending inquiry that never settles. isn't that fucking refreshing?
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what did you expect? science is one continuous testing and retesting and discussion--a neverending inquiry that never settles. isn't that fucking refreshing?

 

Yes, precisely was my point initially weeks ago when so many posters here were going bat-shit about all these supposedly newly discovered planets, even while it was all pure speculation, estimates, and projections (which are subsequently being refuted by concurrent research)
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Yes, precisely was my point initially weeks ago when so many posters here were going bat-shit about all these supposedly newly discovered planets, even while it was all pure speculation, estimates, and projections (which are subsequently being refuted by concurrent research)

you remind me of those krazy kreationists who dismiss evolution because "it's just a theory"
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you remind me of those krazy kreationists who dismiss evolution because "it's just a theory"

Methinks you're projecting too much of your internal reflections, believe it or not, in the Orthodox Church we fully accept the Big Bang Theory albeit in the context of God as the Creator of that process and potentially biological evolution as well, however and again, yes indeed please don't let hubris get ahead of yourself, these are in fact just theories and as you've mentioned, true science is to to be open-minded enough even to accept that theories change and evolve (pun intended) and are not static, concrete, or somehow Divinely indisputable....

I think sometimes to miss my point not noticing the forest for the trees, I am NOT anti-science, but sometimes "popular science" is well, scientifically inaccurate
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Methinks you're projecting too much of your internal reflections, believe it or not, in the Orthodox Church we fully accept the Big Bang Theory albeit in the context of God as the Creator of that process....

I think sometimes to miss my point not noticing the forest for the trees, I am NOT anti-science, but sometimes "popular science" is well, scientifically accurate

if you meant to type INaccurate then okay.
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