"song-to-song" relationships and connections

rocky · 03.23.2006, 01:59 PM

Sonic Youth to my understanding,
aren't really known for having songs with tangible connections to other songs on the same album, or across the catalogue.
but have you ever percieved any?
Just as in, are there any songs you like to put together?
Spit um out and let's chat about it.
Also, if it's all you've got, be a drag and discuss any SY songs which are soundalikes.

(real!) examples:
i think of Bull in the Heather and Heather Angel as a pair,
kim's vox in the beginning of Heather Angel and the guitar throughout sound like ideas from Bull in the Heather being shone through a kaliedescope.

the first few times i listened to Daydream Nation I thought The Wonder was meant to pick up where Eric's Trip ended. "There's something moving over there to the right, like nothing i've ever seen" to "See flashing eyes" and the rest of that first part. I feel like i was just confused at the time, but i haven't forgotten about thinking so...
//
ok, let's go!

Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski · 03.23.2006, 03:52 PM

I always felt that Daydream Nation was or at least felt like a concept album. I can envision a Pink Floyd style movie that would accompany it quite well.

I also like the idea of EJST&NS being a conversation between a couple. Can't remember where I heard that the first time.

Bad Moon Rising fits very well together also; the songs all seem to build off each other in terms of forming a horror movie type scenario.

Hip Priest · 03.23.2006, 05:00 PM

I'm going to think about this more, but I'll start by saying that two consecutive tracks on Dirty ie On the Strip and Chapel Hill, seem utterly inseperable to me. I'm not too sure why.

HaydenAsche · 03.23.2006, 05:14 PM

The whole Unicorns album blends as one giant masterpiece. They don't all sound alike or anything but they all seem to tell a story of ghosts and rainbows.

noumenal · 03.23.2006, 05:50 PM

Becuz and its coda on Washing Machine is the obvious answer that comes to mind. And of course Snare, Girl and Stil. I love to play Stil first and then Snare, Girl.

But those are obvious, I'll try to think of some more.

noumenal · 03.23.2006, 05:52 PM

Actually, I think with SY, the more interesting relationships are within songs. I have a lot of interesting analyses of SY in my head.

Hip Priest · 03.23.2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by noumenal

Actually, I think with SY, the more interesting relationships are within songs. I have a lot of interesting analyses of SY in my head.

Which gives me an idea - a thread (stickied?) for boardie's reviws of SY stuff.

noumenal · 03.23.2006, 06:24 PM

Sounds like a great idea to me.

schizophrenicroom · 03.23.2006, 06:45 PM

I always tie together The Sprawl and Hey Joni.

top 40 squeeze · 03.24.2006, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky

Sonic Youth to my understanding,
aren't really known for having songs with tangible connections to other songs on the same album, or across the catalogue.
but have you ever percieved any?
Just as in, are there any songs you like to put together?
Spit um out and let's chat about it.
Also, if it's all you've got, be a drag and discuss any SY songs which are soundalikes.

(real!) examples:
i think of Bull in the Heather and Heather Angel as a pair,
kim's vox in the beginning of Heather Angel and the guitar throughout sound like ideas from Bull in the Heather being shone through a kaliedescope.

the first few times i listened to Daydream Nation I thought The Wonder was meant to pick up where Eric's Trip ended. "There's something moving over there to the right, like nothing i've ever seen" to "See flashing eyes" and the rest of that first part. I feel like i was just confused at the time, but i haven't forgotten about thinking so...
//
ok, let's go!

And the OBVIOUS:

Karen Koltrane
Karen Revisited

RockerNino · 03.24.2006, 01:24 AM

yea, the Karens are big.

guitarpro · 03.24.2006, 02:38 PM

Bad Moon Rising is a great album. I love I'm Insnae great song.

h8kurdt · 03.24.2006, 02:51 PM

Bad moon rising is the most obvious one. All the songs mould into one (and I usually hate that) to make the soundtrack to your nightmares.

saoq · 03.24.2006, 03:10 PM

wildflower soul - rain on tin

luckynumber9 · 03.24.2006, 10:53 PM

I usually listen to The Sprawl and 'Cross the Breeze together.

Also, Orange Rolls, Angel's Spit always makes me think of Stereo Sanctity. The opening guitar part sounds similar.

And whenever I listen to Winner's Blues, for some reason I feel like listening to Schizophrenia.

(just kidding about that last one).

doctor dan · 03.25.2006, 07:11 PM

obviously the karens are related directly- karen revisited is a follow on with the character. and yeh, i also cant seperate in my mind most of bad moon rising, but i suppose thats mainly because it segues into one another.

samuel · 03.25.2006, 07:17 PM

very interesting ideas,
I know there are some connections I see in Sonic Youth songs
but I can't think of any right now
I'll try to post later

another obvious
the "a thousand leaves" reference in Contre Le Sexisme, Female Mechanic Now On Duty, and French Tickler

Everyneurotic · 03.25.2006, 07:37 PM

youth against fascism with nic fit

everytime i watch corporate ghost i always think sy should have recorded a counterpart video of just one camera without any filtering or post production of them ripping thru a live version of nic fit in the same location as y-vs-f as a sort of coda to both the song and the video, to counterbalance the glossy nature of that video.

schizophrenicroom · 03.25.2006, 08:50 PM

I was listening to Sister tonight and for some reason Pipeline/Kill Time and White Kross seemed really connected. I have no idea why.

cagedbird · 03.09.2007, 01:21 AM

Schizophrenia and Reena becuz they both talk about friendships and
going home.

03.23.2006, 01:59 PM	#1
rocky bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 151	Sonic Youth to my understanding, aren't really known for having songs with tangible connections to other songs on the same album, or across the catalogue. but have you ever percieved any? Just as in, are there any songs you like to put together? Spit um out and let's chat about it. Also, if it's all you've got, be a drag and discuss any SY songs which are soundalikes. (real!) examples: i think of Bull in the Heather and Heather Angel as a pair, kim's vox in the beginning of Heather Angel and the guitar throughout sound like ideas from Bull in the Heather being shone through a kaliedescope. the first few times i listened to Daydream Nation I thought The Wonder was meant to pick up where Eric's Trip ended. "There's something moving over there to the right, like nothing i've ever seen" to "See flashing eyes" and the rest of that first part. I feel like i was just confused at the time, but i haven't forgotten about thinking so... // ok, let's go! __________________ catch
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03.23.2006, 03:52 PM	#2
Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Japan Posts: 345	I always felt that Daydream Nation was or at least felt like a concept album. I can envision a Pink Floyd style movie that would accompany it quite well. I also like the idea of EJST&NS being a conversation between a couple. Can't remember where I heard that the first time. Bad Moon Rising fits very well together also; the songs all seem to build off each other in terms of forming a horror movie type scenario.
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03.23.2006, 05:00 PM	#3
Hip Priest invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Birkenhead Posts: 9,397	I'm going to think about this more, but I'll start by saying that two consecutive tracks on Dirty ie On the Strip and Chapel Hill, seem utterly inseperable to me. I'm not too sure why. __________________ Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. http://www.flickr.com/photos/outsidethecamp/
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03.23.2006, 05:14 PM	#4
HaydenAsche invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,755	The whole Unicorns album blends as one giant masterpiece. They don't all sound alike or anything but they all seem to tell a story of ghosts and rainbows. __________________ rip
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03.23.2006, 05:50 PM	#5
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Becuz and its coda on Washing Machine is the obvious answer that comes to mind. And of course Snare, Girl and Stil. I love to play Stil first and then Snare, Girl. But those are obvious, I'll try to think of some more.
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03.23.2006, 05:52 PM	#6
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Actually, I think with SY, the more interesting relationships are within songs. I have a lot of interesting analyses of SY in my head.
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03.23.2006, 06:24 PM	#8
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Sounds like a great idea to me.
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03.23.2006, 06:45 PM	#9
schizophrenicroom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: behind you Posts: 10,807	I always tie together The Sprawl and Hey Joni. __________________ fuck i'm frustrated, freaking out something fierce, would you help me? i'm hungry and i stuffer and i startle, i struggle and i stammer til i'm up to my ears in miserable quote unquote "art"
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03.24.2006, 01:24 AM	#11
RockerNino bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 170	yea, the Karens are big.
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03.24.2006, 02:38 PM	#12
guitarpro 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 789	Bad Moon Rising is a great album. I love I'm Insnae great song. __________________ A hundred dollars used to be more than enough and now a hundred times a day and still it's not enough
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03.24.2006, 02:51 PM	#13
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Bad moon rising is the most obvious one. All the songs mould into one (and I usually hate that) to make the soundtrack to your nightmares. __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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03.24.2006, 03:10 PM	#14
saoq bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 101	wildflower soul - rain on tin
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03.24.2006, 10:53 PM	#15
luckynumber9 bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 168	I usually listen to The Sprawl and 'Cross the Breeze together. Also, Orange Rolls, Angel's Spit always makes me think of Stereo Sanctity. The opening guitar part sounds similar. And whenever I listen to Winner's Blues, for some reason I feel like listening to Schizophrenia. (just kidding about that last one). __________________ and we looked and we passed through the hallway of shatterproof glass
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03.25.2006, 07:11 PM	#16
doctor dan bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: bath spa, uk/ nottingham, uk Posts: 157	obviously the karens are related directly- karen revisited is a follow on with the character. and yeh, i also cant seperate in my mind most of bad moon rising, but i suppose thats mainly because it segues into one another. __________________ IT FIT WHEN I WAS A KID
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03.25.2006, 07:17 PM	#17
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,173	very interesting ideas, I know there are some connections I see in Sonic Youth songs but I can't think of any right now I'll try to post later another obvious the "a thousand leaves" reference in Contre Le Sexisme, Female Mechanic Now On Duty, and French Tickler
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03.25.2006, 07:37 PM	#18
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	youth against fascism with nic fit everytime i watch corporate ghost i always think sy should have recorded a counterpart video of just one camera without any filtering or post production of them ripping thru a live version of nic fit in the same location as y-vs-f as a sort of coda to both the song and the video, to counterbalance the glossy nature of that video. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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03.25.2006, 08:50 PM	#19
schizophrenicroom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: behind you Posts: 10,807	I was listening to Sister tonight and for some reason Pipeline/Kill Time and White Kross seemed really connected. I have no idea why. __________________ fuck i'm frustrated, freaking out something fierce, would you help me? i'm hungry and i stuffer and i startle, i struggle and i stammer til i'm up to my ears in miserable quote unquote "art"
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03.09.2007, 01:21 AM	#20
cagedbird the destroyed room Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mid-Manhattan Library Posts: 567	Schizophrenia and Reena becuz they both talk about friendships and going home.
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