I need a cheap, loud guitar...

sleep33 · 04.27.2006, 06:09 PM

I need like a $200 guitar that has alot of input. Im thinking of Squier's telecaster... Has anyone played it??? Heres a link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ric?sku=519619

Any feedback would be excepted greatly appreciated, thankyou...

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 04.27.2006, 07:28 PM

You mean output right? Telecasters have single coils, so they are not exactly high output. I'd suggest getting a guitar with humbuckers.

Although the actually output of a guitar doesn't really matter all that much, that is what DIRT pedals are for.

sleep33 · 04.27.2006, 08:05 PM

no i dont think so, more input means more noise and more feedback and is commonly associated with the single coil. And i dont use pedals...

hey alex · 04.27.2006, 08:17 PM

ahem...guitar (50-100$)+big muff($50)+amp(i dunno)=fuck loud

nomadicfollower · 04.27.2006, 08:21 PM

I got a cheap ass Washburn. It can get pretty damn loud. I love it as well.

Drugstore_Cowboy · 04.27.2006, 08:43 PM

I have a shitty cheap Ibanez starter guitar that I only use for odd tunings, but it gets some really good feedback and is pretty loud.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 04.27.2006, 08:45 PM

I dont care what people say. Its all about the amp. You can get any guitar to make noise.

nature scene · 04.27.2006, 08:47 PM

fernandes... they are cheap and i swear by them

youthoftomorrow · 04.27.2006, 08:49 PM

if you're gonna get something cheap, Squiers are probably yr best bet. Squier Strats are great guitars (i have a purple one). i've never played a Squier Tele, but i have played a Fender one, and there can't be much difference. i like the Tele neck better than the Strat, but i'm not a big fan of the Tele pickups.

i heard somewhere that Elvis Costello switched from a Jazzmaster to a Tele because he thought it sounded louder.

nature scene · 04.27.2006, 08:52 PM

the guitar/amp don't matter too much... as long as you have pedals. If you don't, it's the amp that matters more than the guitar. I bought one guitar that was over $500 and i barely use it. I like my $150 fernandes strat just fine. I'll never buy an electric over 200 again. Acoustic is a different story.

Drugstore_Cowboy · 04.27.2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by youthoftomorrow

if you're gonna get something cheap, Squiers are probably yr best bet. Squier Strats are great guitars (i have a purple one). i've never played a Squier Tele, but i have played a Fender one, and there can't be much difference. i like the Tele neck better than the Strat, but i'm not a big fan of the Tele pickups.

i heard somewhere that Elvis Costello switched from a Jazzmaster to a Tele because he thought it sounded louder.

I would have to disagree. Cheap Squier Strats are pieces of shit. An Ibanez will outlast it and sound better. And Ibanez is shit.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 04.27.2006, 08:56 PM

pawnshop

sleep33 · 04.27.2006, 08:58 PM

I dont use pedals ever. sorry i just dont like using distortion or anything like that. I just use the clean channel on this old broken Fender 75 watt I got for free and it sounds great. Im very minimalist when it comes to music.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 04.27.2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sleep33

no i dont think so, more input means more noise and more feedback and is commonly associated with the single coil. And i dont use pedals...

I don't quite know what you mean by high input, if you mean either output or impedance, humbuckers have higher output and impendance than single coils.
http://users.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/pickupin.htm

But you are right, single coils feedback more,

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ric?sku=514013
If you want feedback though, hollowbodies are the way to go.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 04.27.2006, 09:03 PM

i wouldnt use minimalist, though i havent heard you. maybe simple or plain setup.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 04.27.2006, 09:05 PM

Anyways, in my experience, humbucking guitars are louder than single coils, I always have to turn up the volume when I go from a humbucker to a single coil.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 04.28.2006, 09:41 AM

Don't forget to look at used guitars. New guitars are crap. I hate them, even fenders and gibsons. A 70's knock-off will probably be better than a new guitar, and you can pick them up really cheap. The best guitars high end vintage though.

In my mind

expensive vintage > cheap vintage > high end new> middle price new > low price new

Of course, if an old guitar looks like shit it probably is shit. Remember that.

My first guitar was a Hondo II that I got for 200 dollars, sounds better than any other guitar I've played/heard my friends play, except for a vintage Gibson. The only new guitar that I've ever really dug the sound of is my friends Epiphone Casino.

scott v · 04.28.2006, 09:45 AM

heheh, if i'm understanding you correctly i'd have to say, good luck on getting feedback by playing a CLEAN sounding amp like a fender (i'm presuming you are using none to minimal gain channel) so w/o using any pedals, you'll probably need to crank the bitch to max. volume and shove the guitar up the speaker... i don't care how loud the guitar input/output you have it will feedback, but will probably sound like crap and be abit hard to manipulate, i'm guessing you'll probably mostly get uncontrollable high pitch squeely feedback... nice for moments only then it gets rather annoying.

fishmonkey · 04.28.2006, 10:08 AM

buy a second hand Jag-stang off Ebay, if you want a growly noisy axe, this is your man, made completely from basswood for a deeper sound

candymoan · 04.28.2006, 10:41 AM

i bought a real economically priced (read "cheap") SX brand guitar.. 2 hambuckers and 2 single coil pickups, it sounds great..
it's solid as you want it to be, it can tolerate SY style abuse, and it is pretty loud..
they cost about 120 dollars or so..

04.27.2006, 06:09 PM	#1
sleep33 little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 51	I need like a $200 guitar that has alot of input. Im thinking of Squier's telecaster... Has anyone played it??? Heres a link: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ric?sku=519619 Any feedback would be excepted greatly appreciated, thankyou...
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SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	You mean output right? Telecasters have single coils, so they are not exactly high output. I'd suggest getting a guitar with humbuckers. Although the actually output of a guitar doesn't really matter all that much, that is what DIRT pedals are for.
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sleep33 little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 51	no i dont think so, more input means more noise and more feedback and is commonly associated with the single coil. And i dont use pedals...
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nomadicfollower invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North America Posts: 2,672	I got a cheap ass Washburn. It can get pretty damn loud. I love it as well.
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Drugstore_Cowboy little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 45	I have a shitty cheap Ibanez starter guitar that I only use for odd tunings, but it gets some really good feedback and is pretty loud.
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Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	I dont care what people say. Its all about the amp. You can get any guitar to make noise. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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nature scene 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: da souf Posts: 671	fernandes... they are cheap and i swear by them
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youthoftomorrow expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Idaho. Posts: 1,418	if you're gonna get something cheap, Squiers are probably yr best bet. Squier Strats are great guitars (i have a purple one). i've never played a Squier Tele, but i have played a Fender one, and there can't be much difference. i like the Tele neck better than the Strat, but i'm not a big fan of the Tele pickups. i heard somewhere that Elvis Costello switched from a Jazzmaster to a Tele because he thought it sounded louder. __________________ avalanche.
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04.27.2006, 08:52 PM	#10
nature scene 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: da souf Posts: 671	the guitar/amp don't matter too much... as long as you have pedals. If you don't, it's the amp that matters more than the guitar. I bought one guitar that was over $500 and i barely use it. I like my $150 fernandes strat just fine. I'll never buy an electric over 200 again. Acoustic is a different story.
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Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	pawnshop __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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04.27.2006, 08:58 PM	#13
sleep33 little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 51	I dont use pedals ever. sorry i just dont like using distortion or anything like that. I just use the clean channel on this old broken Fender 75 watt I got for free and it sounds great. Im very minimalist when it comes to music.
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04.27.2006, 09:03 PM	#15
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	i wouldnt use minimalist, though i havent heard you. maybe simple or plain setup. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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04.27.2006, 09:05 PM	#16
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	Anyways, in my experience, humbucking guitars are louder than single coils, I always have to turn up the volume when I go from a humbucker to a single coil.
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04.28.2006, 09:41 AM	#17
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	Don't forget to look at used guitars. New guitars are crap. I hate them, even fenders and gibsons. A 70's knock-off will probably be better than a new guitar, and you can pick them up really cheap. The best guitars high end vintage though. In my mind expensive vintage > cheap vintage > high end new> middle price new > low price new Of course, if an old guitar looks like shit it probably is shit. Remember that. My first guitar was a Hondo II that I got for 200 dollars, sounds better than any other guitar I've played/heard my friends play, except for a vintage Gibson. The only new guitar that I've ever really dug the sound of is my friends Epiphone Casino.
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04.28.2006, 09:45 AM	#18
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	heheh, if i'm understanding you correctly i'd have to say, good luck on getting feedback by playing a CLEAN sounding amp like a fender (i'm presuming you are using none to minimal gain channel) so w/o using any pedals, you'll probably need to crank the bitch to max. volume and shove the guitar up the speaker... i don't care how loud the guitar input/output you have it will feedback, but will probably sound like crap and be abit hard to manipulate, i'm guessing you'll probably mostly get uncontrollable high pitch squeely feedback... nice for moments only then it gets rather annoying.
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fishmonkey invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,670	buy a second hand Jag-stang off Ebay, if you want a growly noisy axe, this is your man, made completely from basswood for a deeper sound __________________ "Pescescimmia ha grandi bulbi oculari blu, ognuno attaccato su un lato della sua testa, in modo tale da risucire a guardare indietro senza girare la sua testa pesciosa"
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candymoan the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: istanbul Posts: 855	i bought a real economically priced (read "cheap") SX brand guitar.. 2 hambuckers and 2 single coil pickups, it sounds great.. it's solid as you want it to be, it can tolerate SY style abuse, and it is pretty loud.. they cost about 120 dollars or so.. __________________ /* nothing here...
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