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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Well, paradoxically, for people like you and I, who live in more advanced societies, understanding more primitive ones can be a difficult thing. Sometimes. Other times it's just that they're corrupt and stupid.

from the very article i linked above:

Chile[edit]
The military government which ruled Chile from 1973 to 1990 was ousted in a national plebiscite in October 1988. Opponents of General Augusto Pinochet voted NO to remove him from power and to trigger democratic elections, while supporters (mostly from the right-wing) voted YES to keep him in office for another eight years.

Five months prior to the plebiscite, the regime published a law regulating future elections and referendums, but the configuration of electoral districts and the manner in which Congress seats would be awarded were only added to the law seven months after the referendum.[66][67]

For the Chamber of Deputies (lower house), 60 districts were drawn by grouping (mostly) neighboring communes (the smallest administrative subdivision in the country) within the same region (the largest). It was established that two deputies would be elected per district, with the most voted coalition needing to outpoll its closest rival by a margin of more than 2-to-1 to take both seats. The results of the 1988 plebiscite show that neither the "NO" side nor the "YES" side outpolled the other by said margin in any of the newly established districts. They also showed that the vote/seat ratio was lower in districts which supported the "YES" side and higher in those where the "NO" was strongest.[68][69] In spite of this, at the 1989 parliamentary election, the center-left opposition was able to capture both seats (the so-called doblaje) in twelve out of 60 districts, winning control of 60% of the Chamber.

Senate constituencies were created by grouping all lower-chamber districts in a region, or by dividing a region into two constituencies of contiguous lower-chamber districts. The 1980 Constitution allocated a number of seats to appointed senators, making it harder for one side to change the Constitution by itself. The opposition won 22 senate seats in the 1989 election, taking both seats in three out of 19 constituencies, controlling 58% of the elected Senate, but only 47% of the full Senate. The unelected senators were eliminated in the 2005 constitutional reforms, but the electoral map has remained largely untouched (two new regions were created in 2007, one of which altered the composition of two senatorial constituencies; the first election to be affected by this minor change took place in 2013).

[The Soup Nazi]

Yah well there's gun control and stuff.

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Yah well there's gun control and stuff.

the military controls the guns and aims them at civilians

we've seen pictures...

 

 

[The Soup Nazi]

Yes, that happened in 1973 and the people who would become my parents were almost killed. What the fuck is your point? Actually, strike that, this is bound to be another one of those conversations...

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Yes, that happened in 1973 and the people who would become my parents were almost killed. What the fuck is your point?

to provide an answer to this:

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Well, paradoxically, for people like you and I, who live in more advanced societies, understanding more primitive ones can be a difficult thing. Sometimes. Other times it's just that they're corrupt and stupid.

rabo de paja, and what not

aka living in glass houses, throwing stones

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Actually, strike that, this is bound to be another one of those conversations...

i thought it had already become that, with your comment

[Skuj]

So, just to step back a bit, have the Trumpists on this thread, in light of Trump's latest tweets which CONFIRM the reason for that meeting with the Russians, said "there was no collusion" recently?

[Skuj]

(In case you missed it, Gates just testified that he and Manafort committed crimes together. Both worked for Trump during the campaign. The Best People.)

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Skuj

(In case you missed it, Gates just testified that he and Manafort committed crimes together. Both worked for Trump during the campaign. The Best People.)

But her e-mails.

[Skuj]

I have a feeling that Mueller will win this one.

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Originally Posted by Skuj

I have a feeling that Mueller will win this one.

congress, man, congress

nobody else can do anything about it

time to focus on the horse race

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...obsidebar=sb_1

(yes, im aware that 538 fucked up big in the presidential election. still....)

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Progressives to Democrats: Ignore Trump voters, focus on minorities

https://www.axios.com/progressives-n...a254cd7c9.html

[Skuj]

So, even after 18 months of Trumpism, Ohio votes GOP.

We are doomed, right?

Please explain this to me, SYG people.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Please explain this to me, SYG people.

Sadly, you and many others have been sucked in by the hype machine.

The same machine that duped so many into believing Donal Trump didn’t have a chance in the last election.

Consumed by bitterness, willing to grasp at Muller’s straws of emptiness.

But you have your popcorn......at least you have that!!!

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Originally Posted by Skuj

So, even after 18 months of Trumpism, Ohio votes GOP.

We are doomed, right?

Please explain this to me, SYG people.

accounts i read this morning on the washington post (not a republican paper) claim the victory was razor-thin in a solidly red district.

(i can attest. i used to have a girlfriend from ohio. and her dad was.... almost archie bunker lolol)

in fact ballots remain to be counted and democrat has not conceded.

anyway the wapo spin says the result shows a strong gain for democrats regardless of who ends up winning.

other results show progressive insurgency has not caught on in the midwest (see axios link i posted above) as democrats chose moderates in their primaries. (which makes sense, as the midwest is not brooklyn,)

seymour here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ays-elections/

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this came in this morning’s wall street journal email. please note, the wsj is a rupert murdoch property and not a leftist kind of anything:

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1.
Tight Race in Ohio Is Setback for GOP: Republican Troy Balderson claimed a razor-thin victory over Democrat Danny O’Connor in an Ohio House district that President Trump won by 11 percentage points in 2016—however, the Associated Press says the race is too close to call.

No matter the final outcome, the special election’s narrow margin could foreshadow trouble for the GOP’s effort to keep control of the House this November. Democrats need to win 23 seats from the GOP to take a majority.

In other races Tuesday, the closely watched Republican gubernatorial primary in Kansas also was headed to a photo finish with Kris Kobach, the state’s secretary of state, running neck and neck with Gov. Jeff Colyer. President Trump backed Mr. Kobach.

[ilduclo]

Originally Posted by Skuj

So, even after 18 months of Trumpism, Ohio votes GOP.

Please explain this to me .

1) Ohio. it was captured by the Repubs about 10 years ago. A funny state. One thing they did was purge all Democrats from any job they could. My uncle lost his job of 15 years as a prison psychologist. "to the victor goes the spoils"
2) gerrymandered as fuck
3) full of hill people from KY and AR


no, not at all doomed. Dems need to step up, if Dump campaigns a state race, so should E Warren, the Castro brothers, Biden

still, damned close in a place where Dump won easily in 2oi6, so actually good news.

also, not over yet

WASHINGTON — The congressional special election in Ohio is down to the wire.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting Tuesday night, the candidates were separated by 1,754 votes, making the race too close to call, NBC News projected.

Republican Troy Balderson had 50 percent, or 101,574 votes, while Democrat Danny O'Connor had 49 percent, or 99,820 votes. But more than 3,400 provisional votes and 5,048 outstanding absentee ballots — nearly quadruple the margin — remained to be counted. State law bars boards of elections from counting those ballots until the 11th day after an election.





Even if Balderson does hold on to his tiny margin, this is very good news for Democrats, especially going into the fall, since O'Connor did insanely well in a district gerrymandered to give Rs a heavy advantage, and in a race where Republicans outspent the Dems. Rs have held the seat for 80 years with one brief intermission, and since this was a special election to serve out the term of Pat Tiberi, who retired earlier this year to do Literally Anything Else, Balderson and O'Connor will go at it again in November.

[Rob Instigator]

any place full of poor white people who think a rich white man will gift them with $$$$/charity because they voted for him......


they hate brown people more than they hate being ripped off by the rich.

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if there is collusion, does bytor give money to the dnc?

(cuz i want him helping w/ the midterms, lol)

[ilduclo]

"Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) was indicted Wednesday on insider-trading charges stemming from his position on the board of directors of a drug company whose signature drug suffered a surprising failed trial."

"The case involves Innate Immunotherapeutics, an Australian biotech company that was testing the drug MIS416 for treatment of multiple sclerosis."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ing-indictment


any guess as when these trades took place?

 

[Skuj]

Thanks for explaining Ohio to me. (Yes, you too Peltor.)