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Old 05.11.2006, 09:21 AM   #1
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I'm listening to Albert Kuvezin's album of covers of western bands like zep, iron butterfly and kraftwerk and it's really fucking good if not a little scary when he goes really deep. anyone know of any more good throat singers?
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Old 05.11.2006, 09:26 AM   #2
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Go check out the movie GHENGIS BLUES
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Old 05.11.2006, 09:29 AM   #3
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What do you mean by throat singers? Like I might have throat cancer sing ala Tom Waits? Or like using your throat like a bullfrog?
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Excellent. I've only been into it for a while, there's loads of it out there. Yat-kha are good (Albert Khuvezin's band) but you really should be listening to Huun Huur Tu first, those boys are excellent. 60 horses in my herd is one of the most necessary records ever released. Also, check out Sainkho Namchyleck (I'll check the spelling in a bit), she's got something like an 8-octave range. She's one of the most impressive singers from anywhere, she can do things with her voice that'd make Diamanda Galas wince.
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Old 05.11.2006, 09:37 AM   #5
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old time relijun singer?not sure he uses the same technique...
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What do you mean by throat singers? Like I might have throat cancer sing ala Tom Waits? Or like using your throat like a bullfrog?

It's a vocal technique whereby the overtones are emphasised - which means that you can get two (or more) notes at once. It's actually pretty easy to do, but takes quite a bit of practice to get it sounding good. There are lots of different techniques to produce overtones, I can't remember which one I do best, it might by Khoomei. Google it, it's a wonderful thing. Trust.
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Old 05.11.2006, 09:40 AM   #7
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Huun-Huur-Tu

they're from Tuva, a foursome of excellent throat singers.
Seen them live, it was great.
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Old 05.11.2006, 09:41 AM   #8
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oh,so search for demetrio stratos . he was amazing.
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Old 05.11.2006, 09:46 AM   #9
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I should say that Throat singing isn't exclusive to Tuva, but I don't know a great deal about the other countries that do it, I understand somewhere in Scandinavia does overtone singing as well, but it seems it's very popular in the outreaches of former Soviet block countries
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Old 05.11.2006, 09:52 AM   #10
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i'm not completely sure that this is what you're looking for,but here is the cover of demetrio stratos "cantare la voce" ("singing the voice")
 

.....looks like his throat is singing......
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Old 05.11.2006, 10:42 AM   #11
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Ghengis Blues is about a blind bluesman, nearly down and out, who heard throat singing on the shortwave he always played around with and he taught himself to make these vocal sounds where you have two or three notes at the same time, and he travels to Tuva (where my idol richard p feynman went) to seek out these throat singers and he enters a contest they hold every year. it is a sad and great movie.
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Old 05.11.2006, 12:11 PM   #12
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ive heard that covers album and its good. ive also heard yat kha other albums and the singing is wonderful but its set to a 4 4 techno handbag beat and melody. kinda sucks. wonderful usage of the human voicebox tho!
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It's a vocal technique whereby the overtones are emphasised - which means that you can get two (or more) notes at once. It's actually pretty easy to do, but takes quite a bit of practice to get it sounding good. There are lots of different techniques to produce overtones, I can't remember which one I do best, it might by Khoomei. Google it, it's a wonderful thing. Trust.

Cool. Can anyone do it?
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Old 05.11.2006, 12:38 PM   #14
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Cool. Can anyone do it?

Yeah. Not everyone can do it well, but the simple effects are pretty easy. Try singing a high note and moving your tongue back so it nearly covers your throat, then fiddle about. There're probably some instruction-y things online somewhere, but it's not that difficult to produce with a little practice.
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Old 05.11.2006, 12:47 PM   #15
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It's the sound between "OOO" and "EEE" that does it.
I have seen Huun-Huur-Tu before, and it was pretty cool.
Paul Metzger has been incorporating elements of this in some recent performances as well, and pulling it off.
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It's the sound between "OOO" and "EEE" that does it.
I have seen Huun-Huur-Tu before, and it was pretty cool.
Paul Metzger has been incorporating elements of this in some recent performances as well, and pulling it off.

Oh, wow, I just did it. Easy to learn hard to master I bet!
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Perhaps later I'll post some Mongolian throat singing that is quite good.
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thanks for all these recommendations, checking out some huun huur tu now, they just played in belfast but i missed it by about 2 weeks cus i'm back at uni now
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Good topic. Have to check out throat singing and more music from this fascinating region


 
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I should say that Throat singing isn't exclusive to Tuva, but I don't know a great deal about the other countries that do it, I understand somewhere in Scandinavia does overtone singing as well, but it seems it's very popular in the outreaches of former Soviet block countries

the inuit do it too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEk5odW6KGY


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