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Old 11.10.2006, 11:21 AM   #61
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Eh, it was kind of lame. Parts of it were extremely laugh out loud funny but most of it was just intentionally racy joke after intentionally racy joke every 30 seconds for an hour and a half. It got old QUICK, within the first half hour. The show is infinitely better.
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Old 11.10.2006, 12:34 PM   #62
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Eh, it was kind of lame. Parts of it were extremely laugh out loud funny but most of it was just intentionally racy joke after intentionally racy joke every 30 seconds for an hour and a half. It got old QUICK.

That's what she said.
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Old 11.12.2006, 01:15 AM   #63
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Old 11.12.2006, 02:43 AM   #64
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My sides hurt after leaving this movie. I haven't laughed that hard at a movie in a long time. Great success!
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Old 11.12.2006, 02:44 AM   #65
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It comes out later this month here. So I'll take the missus to it. I really want to see it.

I didn't really like the Ali G movie though. They put fucking fake laughter over the top of every joke and it killed it except for the odd gag. The series was fucking funny but.
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Old 11.12.2006, 06:34 AM   #66
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Old 11.12.2006, 07:29 AM   #67
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I am totally looking forward to seeing this one... For this scene alone.


 

You only see him wearing that for about 5 seconds. He doesn't go to the beach.

Brilliant film. The baywatch/hotel scene was one of the most disgusting/funny things ever. Mmm 69'ers.
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i just saw it.

i love it how he publically disses america in that rodeo.

the 69ing part was SICK

but the funniest was the bear
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Old 11.13.2006, 06:02 AM   #69
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It's strange that we got all the Ali G shit over here round abouts the same time as the UK, which was years ago - America were late on the up take and didn't get it til years later, if at all. But now the USA have Borat and I haven't seen a single thing on it other than on this board. I wanna see it!



America wasn't "late on the up take"...he's just not as funny as other american comedians. i can name 10 american comedians who are much more clever and funny than Sasha Cohen, who is now the most overrated comedian around.

but then again, i didn't find Napolean Dynamite the least bit funny either. maybe i'm just harder to please and more critical than others?
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Old 11.13.2006, 06:06 AM   #70
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I hated Napolean Dynamite.

But you guys were late on the up take with Ali G. Whether that's 100% true or not, I just like to say 'late on the up take'.
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Old 11.13.2006, 06:23 AM   #71
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I hated Napolean Dynamite.

But you guys were late on the up take with Ali G. Whether that's 100% true or not, I just like to say 'late on the up take'.

i can't answer for everyone, but most people knew of ALI G for a couple years now, but i think his sense of humor just didn't really do it for most Americans. i know a person who loves ALI G, but most really don't have any opinion of him. i personally didn't find him very funny because he just didn't seem very clever and political mocking of officials and people isn't anything new and he really hasn't pushed it and made it "clever" or ingenius, i find his comedy a bit too obvious and forced. i don't think he's a bad comedian, but i don't find him to be very clever, smart, innovative.

humor across different cultures are all a little different and that's because of our society's differences.
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I watched a really bad bootleg of it, typical borat very funny. Although I think his stuff from the ali g show was better....and yeah, most folk I know have been hip to that show for a long time (at least since 00-01 when it first aired in these parts).
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i can't answer for everyone, but most people knew of ALI G for a couple years now, but i think his sense of humor just didn't really do it for most Americans. i know a person who loves ALI G, but most really don't have any opinion of him. i personally didn't find him very funny because he just didn't seem very clever and political mocking of officials and people isn't anything new and he really hasn't pushed it and made it "clever" or ingenius, i find his comedy a bit too obvious and forced. i don't think he's a bad comedian, but i don't find him to be very clever, smart, innovative.

humor across different cultures are all a little different and that's because of our society's differences.

Partof the reason why he went to America was because he exhausted his possibilities in England. Everyone knew who he was in England and Australia - it's hard to take the piss from people who know you're taking the piss. But I have no doubt certain people in the states knew who he was.

This is not intended to be rude, but it will sound it: You know that Borat is Ali G, don't you? It just sounded like you were seperating the two with your "i don't think he's a bad comedian" comment.
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Partof the reason why he went to America was because he exhausted his possibilities in England. Everyone knew who he was in England and Australia - it's hard to take the piss from people who know you're taking the piss. But I have no doubt certain people in the states knew who he was.

This is not intended to be rude, but it will sound it: You know that Borat is Ali G, don't you? It just sounded like you were seperating the two with your "i don't think he's a bad comedian" comment.

It sounds like if anyone's not "in on the uptake", it would probably be you and your underestimating of American culture. You make it sound like Ali G/Sascha/Borat is a "new thing" and that "Americans have never heard of him". we've heard of him, we just find Chris Rock(who also had his show on HBO at the same time) and about 100 other comedians much more funny and clever. i dunno. it's the same reason why i never found napolean dynamite funny at all. the "white hip hop" stereotype mockery has been done since 3rd Bass was around making fun of Vanilla Ice and Colin Quinn was making fun of LL Cool J. it was done many times, even jaime kennedy did it in "MALIBU'S MOST WANTED". sascha cohen just isn't very clever or witty and i think if you're going to do political humor, it should be clever, witty, and done in a not-so "toungue in cheek" overexagerated way. it should be clever enough to be different.

Ali G really didn't have a chance against Chris Rock's show, Dave Chapelle's HBO standups, Def Jam Comedy Hour, or even Curb Your Enthusiasm, not to mention shows like Sopranos & 6 Feet Under.

All of those shows were much better than Ali G, so if America hasn't taken notice of Ali G/Sascha Cohen/Borat, it's because it isn't as good as the many shows HBO had going on during that time.

I would say maybe a case of "wrong place, wrong time". maybe he'll get big now that most of those shows & comedians have gone on to other things?
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This is not intended to be rude, but it will sound it: You know that Borat is Ali G, don't you? It just sounded like you were seperating the two with your "i don't think he's a bad comedian" comment.

This was my first comment on this subject:
"America wasn't "late on the up take"...he's just not as funny as other american comedians. i can name 10 american comedians who are much more clever and funny than Sascha Cohen, who is now the most overrated comedian around."
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As you can see, I mention the actor's name, who happens to be the same actor that play's "Ali G". By making this association, it is clear that I am well aware that both "Ali G" and "Borat" are played by the same person.

I think you maybe taking this thread a little too seriously, possibly jumping to conclusions a bit prematurely, too premature that you really haven't read any of my comments very clearly.

is it a "nationality" thing where you've acquired a certain identity that you feel aligned with and feel the need to "defend" it when your nationality feels threatened by inferiority in another country's pop culture?
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Funny thing is he is Jewish, and makes jewish jokes. He's obviously not trying to offend. He cameoed on Larry David's show.. curb your enthusiasm, alongside Dustin Hoffman. Good episode. Good crowd those guys. Know how to make mundane situations hilarious. whatever. I enjoyed the film.
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November 15, 2006, 1:24 AM CST

GLOD, Romania -- The name of this remote Romanian village means "mud," and that's exactly what angry locals are throwing back at comedian Sacha Baron Cohen.

Cohen used Glod's Gypsies as stand-ins for Kazakhs in his runaway hit movie, "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan." Now offended villagers are threatening to sue the film's producers for paying them a pittance to put farm animals in their homes and perform other crude antics.

Residents and local officials in the scruffy hamlet 85 miles northwest of Bucharest said Tuesday they were horrified and humiliated to learn their abject poverty and simple ways are ridiculed in a movie, which has raked in $67 million at box offices in the United States alone in just two weeks.

"We thought they came here to help us -- not mock us," said Dana Luca, 40, sweeping a manure-stained street lined with shabby homes of crumbling brick and corrugated iron sheeting.

"We haven't got anything here. We haven't got running water. We can't even bathe," she said. "We are poor people, but we are still people."

Nicolae Staicu, leader of the 1,670 Gypsies, or Roma, who eke out a living in one of the most impoverished corners of Romania, said he and other officials would meet with a public ombudsman on Wednesday to map out a legal strategy against Cohen and "Borat" distributor 20th Century Fox. The film's opening sequence showing Borat's hometown in Kazakhstan is shot in Glod.

Staicu accused the producers of paying locals just $3.30 to $5.50 a day, misleading the village into thinking the movie would be a documentary, refusing to sign proper filming contracts and enticing easily exploited peasants into performing crass acts.

Only five villagers have jobs at a nearby sanatorium and a stone quarry, Staicu said. The rest weave baskets, grow apples, pears and plums, gather mushrooms in the dense Carpathian Mountain forests rising above the town, or raise a few scrawny chickens.

With no gas heating or indoor plumbing, most keep warm with wood stoves and drink from wells. Horse-drawn carts far outnumber automobiles on unpaved, badly potholed roads, and mangy stray dogs growl and snap at strangers.

Acrid fires smolder in trash piled up on the outskirts of the village, and children -- their clothing worn and torn -- play in yards littered with stumps, scrap metal and other bric-a-brac.

"These people are poor and they were tricked by people more intelligent than us," he said.

But Gregg Brilliant, a spokesman for 20th Century Fox, told The Associated Press early Wednesday that locals were paid around $6 a day -- twice the going rate in Romania for extras. He said the production team and Cohen each donated $5,000 to the town, paid a location fee and bought it computers, school and office supplies.

It was clear from the start that the film was a comedy, he said, dismissing as "misleading" the notion that villagers thought it was a documentary.

"People would stand in the street, watch the filming and laugh at the jokes," Brilliant said. "They were cheering and laughing and hugging the crew."

The mood in Glod, meanwhile, was tense and volatile, with crowds of angry, shouting villagers repeatedly gathering around reporters.

One man was seen slapping his sister, who had appeared in the film, and slamming the gate to his ramshackle home shut to keep her from being interviewed. At another point, a resident threatened news photographers with a stick, and another pelted their car with rocks.

People in the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan also have decried how they are depicted in the film. Cohen's character is a Kazakh TV journalist on an adventure across America.

Two members of a fraternity at a South Carolina university who appear making drunken, insulting comments about women and minorities also are suing 20th Century Fox and three production companies, claiming the crew got them drunk in a bar before filming and told them the movie would not be shown in the United States.

Not everyone in Glod is upset. Sorina Luca, 25, excitedly described how she was given $3.30 to bring a pig into her home and let the producers put a toy rifle into the hands of her 5-year-old daughter for one scene.

"I really liked it," she said. "We are poor and miserable. Nothing ever happens here."

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In a rare interview out of character, Sacha Baron Cohen discusses his reaction to the controversy over Borat:

And the reason we chose Kazakhstan was because it was a country that no one had heard anything about, so we could essentially play on stereotypes they might have about this ex-Soviet backwater. The joke is not on Kazakhstan. I think the joke is on people who can believe that the Kazakhstan that I describe can exist -- who believe that there's a country where homosexuals wear blue hats and the women live in cages and they drink fermented horse urine and the age of consent has been raised to nine years old."


Maybe this Kazakhstan doesn't exist--but Borat's antics sometimes aren't far off the mark from other parts of the world where gang-rape and stoning are meted out as punishment. Is it so silly to appreciate Borat as a comical icon from these dark corners of the world? Who is ignorant of what is really happening in the world--Cohen or his unwitting interviewees?
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