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Old 06.05.2010, 05:05 AM   #101
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who loots on a freeway overpass bridge?
there is footage of this. I saw it soon after but it is now hard to find. They shot peopl who were just carrying whatever possessions they could get out of their homes.

a lot of ANY TYPE of people were looting, not just black people. New Orleans is, or was, like 75-80% black, a fact not mentioned by racist news media when describing the looting. why can't they call them "citizens?" they are all citizens. I guess "New orleans citizens loot stores" does not scare white folks like "black people looting in new roleans" does.
you do know the news just feeds the fear mongering right? it makes people watch and it makes money off of commercial adverts when more people watch

The toadying thought police of the lunatical left have always been at pains to try and convince us that the sun shines out of a black persons ass. The same ass the fucking cunts are wont to stick their tongue up all in the name of modern day marxism commonly known as political correctness. It's beyond pathetic.
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Old 06.05.2010, 06:13 PM   #102
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The toadying thought police of the lunatical left have always been at pains to try and convince us that the sun shines out of a black persons ass. The same ass the fucking cunts are wont to stick their tongue up all in the name of modern day marxism commonly known as political correctness. It's beyond pathetic.

so you just wanna bring that shit even harder eh? Jesus Christ you are truly a moron.. luck for the world dinosaur thinking like yours is going extinct, and then we will dance on the graves of your bullshit ideas.
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Old 06.06.2010, 05:20 PM   #103
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so you just wanna bring that shit even harder eh? Jesus Christ you are truly a moron.. luck for the world dinosaur thinking like yours is going extinct, and then we will dance on the graves of your bullshit ideas.

You call free thinking "dinosaur thinking" because it wasn't ingrained into the brain by some indoctrinating, fascist cunt with a political agenda i.e. the lunatical left who are quite happy to act racist towards other races in the name of a corrupt, self-serving, greedy, insidious, egomaniacal, venal axiom.
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Old 06.06.2010, 07:53 PM   #104
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You call free thinking "dinosaur thinking" because it wasn't ingrained into the brain by some indoctrinating, fascist cunt with a political agenda i.e. the lunatical left who are quite happy to act racist towards other races in the name of a corrupt, self-serving, greedy, insidious, egomaniacal, venal axiom.

its funny you believe that bullshit you spew to be free thinking..
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Old 06.07.2010, 06:23 AM   #105
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its funny you believe that bullshit you spew to be free thinking..

Political correctness is the "Big Brother is watching you" that George Orwell wrote about in his book 1984.
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Old 06.07.2010, 09:31 AM   #106
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if you rely for your news on the US corporate media, whether ad-supported or underwriter-supported, you won’t learn that Furkan Dogan, the 19-year-old American citizen slain by Israeli commandos in the raid on the Gaza-bound flotilla May 31, was shot in the back and in the back of the head, as well as multiple times in the face.This is the conclusion of the autopsy conducted by the Turkish Council of Forensic Medicine, which also did autopsies on the eight other Turkish citizens killed in the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ferry and five other smaller boats in the so-called Freedom Flotilla. Of the other eight dead, the medical examiners found that five had been shot in the back, or in the back of the head.
This critically important information has not appeared in US news reports. Some American news organizations have left out the autopsy information entirely from their reports as of Saturday. CNN, in its report on Friday, did note that five of the nine were shot in the head, and at close range, but the all-important fact that most of the victims were shot from behind was left out. ABC had the same information on Thursday, again without mentioning the shots from behind. In its article on Friday, the NY Times had yet to even name Dogan, the American victim, much less mention the bullets that hit him or how he was shot.
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Old 06.07.2010, 09:57 AM   #107
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no, you're defending the status quo, and that's the fucking definition of Big Brother
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Old 06.07.2010, 10:28 AM   #108
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Big Brother is an omnipresent government controlling all actions and thoughts of it's populace through control of media, propaganda, social services, etc.

sounds a lot more like modern day UK than USA.
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Big Brother is an omnipresent government controlling all actions and thoughts of it's populace through control of media, propaganda, social services, etc.

sounds a lot more like modern day UK than USA.
Social services is the opposite of Big Brother, surely.
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Old 06.07.2010, 10:50 AM   #110
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social services are used to maintain a certain subset of the population in near permanent indebtedness,/servitude.

one can control those that depend on the government for the very basics of life, foodstamps, welfare checks for housing, etc,.
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if you rely for your news on the US corporate media, whether ad-supported or underwriter-supported, you won’t learn that Furkan Dogan, the 19-year-old American citizen slain by Israeli commandos in the raid on the Gaza-bound flotilla May 31, was shot in the back and in the back of the head, as well as multiple times in the face.This is the conclusion of the autopsy conducted by the Turkish Council of Forensic Medicine, which also did autopsies on the eight other Turkish citizens killed in the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ferry and five other smaller boats in the so-called Freedom Flotilla. Of the other eight dead, the medical examiners found that five had been shot in the back, or in the back of the head.
This critically important information has not appeared in US news reports. Some American news organizations have left out the autopsy information entirely from their reports as of Saturday. CNN, in its report on Friday, did note that five of the nine were shot in the head, and at close range, but the all-important fact that most of the victims were shot from behind was left out. ABC had the same information on Thursday, again without mentioning the shots from behind. In its article on Friday, the NY Times had yet to even name Dogan, the American victim, much less mention the bullets that hit him or how he was shot.
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yes, i read that in today's paper. i'm really glad that media in belgium hasn't really taken a side: they covered both the footage of the israelis being attacked and the autopsy reports.

after hearing the stories though, it doesn't surprise me to read how victims were shot in the back.

oh and israel refused an international investigation. they'll do it themselves. all footage recorded by passengers on board has been taken or destroyed, released images or recordings have been edited. they are making it hard to be believed.
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Old 06.07.2010, 01:08 PM   #113
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Political correctness is the "Big Brother is watching you" that George Orwell wrote about in his book 1984.

You can not hide racism behind a veil of anarcho/anti-system rhetoric, your pep rally is bullshit. Acknowledging the truth is not necessarily political correctness, and since you live the lies of course you can't see it, even though it is plainly in front of you.
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if you rely for your news on the US corporate media, whether ad-supported or underwriter-supported, you won’t learn that Furkan Dogan, the 19-year-old American citizen slain by Israeli commandos in the raid on the Gaza-bound flotilla May 31, was shot in the back and in the back of the head, as well as multiple times in the face.This is the conclusion of the autopsy conducted by the Turkish Council of Forensic Medicine, which also did autopsies on the eight other Turkish citizens killed in the Israeli raid on the Mavi Marmara ferry and five other smaller boats in the so-called Freedom Flotilla. Of the other eight dead, the medical examiners found that five had been shot in the back, or in the back of the head.
This critically important information has not appeared in US news reports. Some American news organizations have left out the autopsy information entirely from their reports as of Saturday. CNN, in its report on Friday, did note that five of the nine were shot in the head, and at close range, but the all-important fact that most of the victims were shot from behind was left out. ABC had the same information on Thursday, again without mentioning the shots from behind. In its article on Friday, the NY Times had yet to even name Dogan, the American victim, much less mention the bullets that hit him or how he was shot.
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Old 06.07.2010, 04:52 PM   #115
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You can not hide racism behind a veil of anarcho/anti-system rhetoric, your pep rally is bullshit. Acknowledging the truth is not necessarily political correctness, and since you live the lies of course you can't see it, even though it is plainly in front of you.

"Big Brother" says it's racism! And I say "Big Brother" is racist! You can't accuse someone of something your political views is guilty of. It's known as hypocrisy, no matter how you hard you try to mask it.
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Old 06.07.2010, 04:57 PM   #116
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"political views" are not entities that can be "guilty" or "innocent."
They are just positions, highly variable and not set in stone, that people choose to take.
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Old 06.07.2010, 05:22 PM   #117
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Political correctness is the "Big Brother is watching you" that George Orwell wrote about in his book 1984.
The irony that you'd invoke Orwell is deafening to anybody who knows Orwell's political views. Is political incorrectness against the law? No? Well, I suppose there is an clear enough avenue to gain entry to promenade of bullshit that is the totality of your political views.


But of course you're the "keep it simple, stupid" troll so I'm obliged to congratulate you on your success.
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Old 06.07.2010, 05:34 PM   #118
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The irony that you'd invoke Orwell is deafening to anybody who knows Orwell's political views. Is political incorrectness against the law? No? Well, I suppose there is an clear enough avenue to gain entry to promenade of bullshit that is the totality of your political views.


But of course you're the "keep it simple, stupid" troll so I'm obliged to congratulate you on your success.

It's a pity you clearly don't know them. A poor effort at pretending you did.
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Old 06.07.2010, 06:16 PM   #119
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Though I am very well aware of Orwell's democratic socialist beliefs, the main point of that reply is that political correctness is nothing like Big Brother because political correctness is not legally enforced. There's simply nothing "thought police" about private citizens thinking you're a shithead for saying shit things. All you have is hyperbolic nonsense that's founded in your own frustration with being shit.
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I have been more than outspoken on political issues on this board, so the advent of a fresh flashpoint in the middle east should spur me into polemical action....
Fuck, i have no solutions. None of us do.
Question Time last week had a debate on this last week where both ends of the arguement (I dont think theyre "sides") were aired, and it feels hopeless. Israel fucked it up of course, but Hamas is an explicitly antisemetic organisation. All these claims ive heard that Israel is secular are completely laughable too.
This is a conflict i can see resulting in a "dirty" bomb. But that will only happen if the two sides were to resolve and live in peace, paradoxically. The extremists thrive on the ethnic identities of civilians being indistinguishable so they can relate less to those they consider collaborators or infidels.
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