Slanted & Enchanted or Wowee Zowee - Page 3

atsonicpark · 06.29.2007, 06:32 AM

how many times do i have to say this?

pavement were fucking geniuses.

it's not even that i listen to them very often anymore. but to just look at what they do on a systematic level, everything makes sense. you want to talk about melody? pavement are the fucking kings of good melody. their guitar interplay, while not fucking polvo or anything, was still very unique for its time and most of all, pavement never made the same album -- or song, really -- twice. quite a feat for a band with like 200 songs. very VERY consistent songwriting.

good band.

06.29.2007, 06:47 AM

I wouldn't call their songwriting consistent, but nevermind.

ZEROpumpkins · 06.29.2007, 06:55 AM

I find that almost every Pavement song is good. The ones that are bad were almost intended to be so.

atsonicpark · 06.29.2007, 07:29 AM

it's like thinking fellers union local 282 -- yeah, they had filler, but it was compelling!

i think to some people, serpentine pad would be considered filler. but that's my favorite fucking song!

hotbutterknives · 06.29.2007, 05:23 PM

thinking fellers union local 282 are geniuses too,, another great fucking band!!!

atsonicpark · 07.01.2007, 05:38 PM

pbradley · 07.01.2007, 05:48 PM

pawns it at the second hand shop? first time I've heard that one.

Danny Himself · 07.01.2007, 05:49 PM

WOWEE FUCKING ZOWEE.

Slanted and Enchanted is so overrated and it all seems to linger in one fuzzy place on the edge of rock and roll. Don't get me wrong, it's a good album, but it has nothing on the creative pinnacle pavement had reached by wowee zowee. By then they had it down. Perfected. Making it look so easy, too.

pbradley · 07.01.2007, 05:58 PM

I've never been too excited with Pavement to look into all that much. I got Slanted & Enchanted but it didn't came off as anything special. Typical indie rock. "No Life Singed Her" and "Jackals, False Grails" were the only songs to really caught my attention. But the overall sound of the album didn't make me too inspired to look in further into Pavement.

Maybe I should buy Wowee Zowee cuz of all the positive buzz.

Danny Himself · 07.01.2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley

Maybe I should buy Wowee Zowee cuz of all the positive buzz.

Dooooo it.

atsonicpark · 07.01.2007, 06:14 PM

pbradley, i'm surprised you like swirlies but don't like slanted.. seems pretty similiar, except swirlies are a lot poppier and more shoegazey.. but they're still weird noise pop groups.. hmm hmm.

i actually think all of pavement's albums are genius. and like i said many posts ago, i don't even really listen to them. it's like yo la tengo. i don't need to listen to them either, but i can safely say that it's enjoyable every time i do. and that they have so many fucking great songs it's amazing.

pbradley · 07.01.2007, 06:20 PM

If it weren't for the Swirlies ability to combine mid to late Sonic Youth-like guitar melodies (Park The Car comes to mind) with early MBV vocals and poppier shoegazing fuzz, I probably wouldn't dig them all that much.

I don't see Pavement as being all that noisy/noisy enough (except for those two songs that I liked).

atsonicpark · 07.01.2007, 06:34 PM

hmm, they've definitely got a super trebley noise sound. definitely on westing and slanted.

but i see what you're saying, just curious.

it's like my friend the other day is the biggest throbbing gristle fan ever and he was listening to some wolf eyes album that's identical to throbbing gristle. and he said "i fucking hate wolf eyes." and i said, "dude this sounds EXACTLY like throbbing gristle." and he sat there for a second and went "Hmm.. true."

WHAT?!

Bicorn Halfelven · 07.02.2007, 12:27 AM

I answered S&E, but CRCR is hands down my favorite.

Especially the deluxe edition... there's another album's worth of material on the second disc (not to mention all the splendid extras on the first) that really gets my zod hopping.

Amen.

raging_nelly · 07.02.2007, 04:29 AM

They are both god in their own ways! SO hard to choose!

I pretty much like them equally

ZEROpumpkins · 07.02.2007, 04:44 AM

Can't believe WZ is losing. Well, I can, but I still think it should be putting up a better fight. And yes, CRCR Deluxe fucking rocks.

matt74m · 07.02.2007, 10:08 AM

Both good, I'll go for Wowee Zowee by a hair.

marleypumpkin · 07.02.2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Ibold

i usually don't like to rate one album better than the other, but i'd have to say wowee zowee. slanted and enchanted seems to be a lot of peoples favorite, but to me the overall sound leaves me wanting more-- which is where wowee zowee comes in. wowee zowee has much more range, so you can hear some fast punk stuff (flux=rad), laid back country (father to a sister of thought) and some classic pavement rocking (at&t etc) all in one record. not to mention, because of the more imaginative styles in wowee zowee the material was way more fun to record and play on the road.

I agree w/ Mark 100%. Wowee has so much emotion & passion, IMO. It can take you up, & bring you down at the same time.

& how can you beat a 3 sided LP.

screamingskull · 07.03.2007, 12:24 PM

OK, so i bought Wowee Zowee today, finally, i am going to listen to it then vote.

View Poll Results: Slanted & Enchanted or Wowee Zowee
Slanted & Enchanted	32	71.11%
Wowee Zowee	13	28.89%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

06.29.2007, 06:32 AM	#41
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	how many times do i have to say this? pavement were fucking geniuses. it's not even that i listen to them very often anymore. but to just look at what they do on a systematic level, everything makes sense. you want to talk about melody? pavement are the fucking kings of good melody. their guitar interplay, while not fucking polvo or anything, was still very unique for its time and most of all, pavement never made the same album -- or song, really -- twice. quite a feat for a band with like 200 songs. very VERY consistent songwriting. good band. __________________
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06.29.2007, 06:47 AM	#42
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	I wouldn't call their songwriting consistent, but nevermind.
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06.29.2007, 06:55 AM	#43
ZEROpumpkins invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,157	I find that almost every Pavement song is good. The ones that are bad were almost intended to be so. __________________
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06.29.2007, 07:29 AM	#44
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	it's like thinking fellers union local 282 -- yeah, they had filler, but it was compelling! i think to some people, serpentine pad would be considered filler. but that's my favorite fucking song! __________________
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06.29.2007, 05:23 PM	#45
hotbutterknives bad moon rising Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MTL Posts: 146	thinking fellers union local 282 are geniuses too,, another great fucking band!!!
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07.01.2007, 05:38 PM	#46
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	huh? __________________
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07.01.2007, 05:48 PM	#47
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	pawns it at the second hand shop? first time I've heard that one.
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07.01.2007, 05:49 PM	#48
Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	WOWEE FUCKING ZOWEE. Slanted and Enchanted is so overrated and it all seems to linger in one fuzzy place on the edge of rock and roll. Don't get me wrong, it's a good album, but it has nothing on the creative pinnacle pavement had reached by wowee zowee. By then they had it down. Perfected. Making it look so easy, too.
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07.01.2007, 05:58 PM	#49
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	I've never been too excited with Pavement to look into all that much. I got Slanted & Enchanted but it didn't came off as anything special. Typical indie rock. "No Life Singed Her" and "Jackals, False Grails" were the only songs to really caught my attention. But the overall sound of the album didn't make me too inspired to look in further into Pavement. Maybe I should buy Wowee Zowee cuz of all the positive buzz.
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07.01.2007, 06:14 PM	#51
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	pbradley, i'm surprised you like swirlies but don't like slanted.. seems pretty similiar, except swirlies are a lot poppier and more shoegazey.. but they're still weird noise pop groups.. hmm hmm. i actually think all of pavement's albums are genius. and like i said many posts ago, i don't even really listen to them. it's like yo la tengo. i don't need to listen to them either, but i can safely say that it's enjoyable every time i do. and that they have so many fucking great songs it's amazing. __________________
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07.01.2007, 06:20 PM	#52
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	If it weren't for the Swirlies ability to combine mid to late Sonic Youth-like guitar melodies (Park The Car comes to mind) with early MBV vocals and poppier shoegazing fuzz, I probably wouldn't dig them all that much. I don't see Pavement as being all that noisy/noisy enough (except for those two songs that I liked).
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07.01.2007, 06:34 PM	#53
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	hmm, they've definitely got a super trebley noise sound. definitely on westing and slanted. but i see what you're saying, just curious. it's like my friend the other day is the biggest throbbing gristle fan ever and he was listening to some wolf eyes album that's identical to throbbing gristle. and he said "i fucking hate wolf eyes." and i said, "dude this sounds EXACTLY like throbbing gristle." and he sat there for a second and went "Hmm.. true." WHAT?! __________________
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07.02.2007, 12:27 AM	#54
Bicorn Halfelven children of satan Join Date: May 2007 Location: MPLS Posts: 295	I answered S&E, but CRCR is hands down my favorite. Especially the deluxe edition... there's another album's worth of material on the second disc (not to mention all the splendid extras on the first) that really gets my zod hopping. Amen. __________________ http://demilichmonolith.blogspot.com www.myspace.com/whenitrainsitsnows www.myspace.com/gunmountainknife
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07.02.2007, 04:29 AM	#55
raging_nelly stalker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norwich, England Posts: 409	They are both god in their own ways! SO hard to choose! I pretty much like them equally __________________ "Thurston's gonna spin 'till he's dizzy... and that's the right move!" www.myspace.com/myboyslashmygirl www.dischordmusic.blogspot.com
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07.02.2007, 04:44 AM	#56
ZEROpumpkins invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,157	Can't believe WZ is losing. Well, I can, but I still think it should be putting up a better fight. And yes, CRCR Deluxe fucking rocks. __________________
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07.02.2007, 10:08 AM	#57
matt74m little trouble girl Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London Posts: 45	Both good, I'll go for Wowee Zowee by a hair.
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07.03.2007, 12:24 PM	#59
screamingskull invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: england Posts: 5,580	OK, so i bought Wowee Zowee today, finally, i am going to listen to it then vote.
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