[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

anyone been keeping up?
i heard they went in and arrested 1/3rd of the hammas organization and 20 lawmakers

damn, israel doesnt fuck around

[Tokolosh]

 

MK Sheikh Ibrahim Sarsour, Chairman of the Islamic Movement, greets Yitzhak Frankenthal, whose son Arik was kidnapped and murdered by Hamas terrorists, as Rabbi Menahem Froman of Tekoa looks on at their meeting at the Kings Hotel in Jerusalem Monday.

[alyasa]

It's a bad idea for anyone to get involved in the Isreali-Palestinian conflict with a view to taking sides. There should be involvment to stop the conflict itself, but to take sides on this issue is like pouring oil on a raging fire. Both parties have committed countless atrocities by now, and both their hands are stained with blood. And who keeps dying? The little people, of course. The ones who go about their daily lives keep dying for no reason.

[bytheriver]

It is never going to get better there until there is some outside intervention that takes account of Israels security concerns, and Palestines territory, poverty, mass unemployment, occupation, and apartheid wall concerns. Innocent people, on both sides, are going to die as a result of this. Its horrible and depressing and frustrating when you think how inevitable it is.

[bytheriver]

Any intervention would have to come from a recognised impartial authority, like the UN, but its dictats would need to be enforced through serious political pressure.

[alyasa]

I hate to say this, mainly because it's such a cliche(even though it's true), George Bush et al are so desperately trying to appease Israel, no matter what they do, for political reasons. That kind of political bias is the kind of thing that exarcebates the situation, fueling the flames of hatred. The people living there, Israelis and Palestinians alike, are going to look at this idiot Bush and think what the fuck does this guy want? Why is he getting involved? And they're each going to think he's somehow undermining their own cause, spurring them to prove their own point even more, making the situation even worse than it is. Meanwhile Bush gloats having scored political points.

[bytheriver]

I just find it incredible that military attacks on the supposedlyindependent Gaza strip killing innocent people can be reported all over the world without any serious political action being taken. If any other country in Europe did that to a neighbour it would be a major incident, but with Gaza its just one of those things.

I really hope that soldier, who is a nineteen year old kid, comes through this thing.

[alyasa]

I will stop crushing my heart by discussing this senseless violence, now.

[bytheriver]

fair enough

[krastian]

We always try and appease Israel....that's just how we roll.

[space_monkey]

Free Palestine!!

[jon boy]

this shit always goes down. the tentative peace that exists there never seems to last more than a few months. as soon as one side denouncs violonce something happens and plunges it further into violence. why cant america and the west do something about that instead of invading other countries for oil?

[acousticrock87]

I'm a Zionist, but I think it sucks for the Palestinians. I mean they didn't initially do anything wrong. Israel was scattered, "Palestine" formed there, and Israel came back. It's not like the Palestinians said "Hey lets take their land!" It's kind of lose-lose. Too bad peaceful co-existance is something humans fail at miserably.

I think we should support Israel, I guess, but not militarily. There shouldn't be fighting there in the first place.

[jon boy]

the usa gives $1m a week to israel in 'aid' this is money then spent on weapons.

[acousticrock87]

I know; that would be military. That's why I said "I guess." There's not really an actual way to support them without stooping to war. Both sides are obsessed with fighting it out. I just mean like...ideally.

[krastian]

Originally Posted by jon boy

why cant america and the west do something about that instead of invading other countries for oil?

Ha ha.....we've been trying for years and nothing works. This crap will prob. always go on as it always has. It'd be nice if more countries other than the usual suspects would try and encourage a peaceful solution....it just gets old that we always have to clean up all the shit and try to play "playground monitor." Not saying that Bush isn't a backwards fuck who sold the country up the river to line the pockets of people who already have more money imaginable....I'd love to beat his ass, what scum. I just wish people would leave us the hell alone and that we'd do the same.....tuff to nowadays because we live in such a world of shit though. Sorry if this came off as bitter....I'm in a pissed off mood.

[HaydenAsche]

Fighting is everywhere. I just learn to ignore it.

[HaydenAsche]

n00bs were going down.