[Cantankerous]

"jack white dresses like fucking zorro on donuts"

best noel gallagher quote ever

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

"jack white dresses like fucking zorro on donuts"

best noel gallagher quote ever

Hahaha...agreed!

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Glice

The review of Primal Scream's (incidentally, even their name is steeped in troglodyte apprehensions about 60s 'counter-culture') last album in the Wire pointed out that, while they've never been at the cutting edge of pop, they're always a good yardstick of the current alt-guitar zeitgeist. They are, in fact, Madonna for white boys.

Although I think it's just about possible to overstate the crapness of the Scream, I think it's a little OTT to think of them in this kind of zeitgeistian manner. Screamedelica did, to be fair, pick up on emerging currents (albeit in a far less interesting fashion than, say, the Happy Mondays). But what of the dreadful follow up? Or Riot City Blues? These hardly seemed to resonate with any general alt-guitar trajectory that I recall. If anything, they're the archetypical catch up kids - enlisting the likes of Mani and Kevin Shields when, in footballing terms, they were firmly residing on indie rock's equiv. of the free transfer list. With the exception of recruiting Andy Weatherall for Screamedelica, as well as a couple of Can references on albums like Xterminator, they've never shown any real interest in what's going on at the cutting edge of anything (as if Can could ever possibly be considered cutting edge so long after the event anyway). Their failure is that they seem to judge all music against an approved list of 'greats', culled primarily from the years 1968-1973. As such, whole areas of interest are completely missing from their work. They supposedly embrace dance culture, but when we look at that claim, what we find is that actually this is just an excuse for them to plow the usual Coltrane-Sly Stone-Krautrock-Parliament axis, with seemingly no regard for genuinely groundbreaking later developments in the field, provided by the likes of Detroit and European Techno, Hardcore, Jungle/Drum and Bass, Happy Hardcore, Garage, Grime, Trance, et al.

Madonna has always struck me as being somewhat omnivorous in her quest for the 'new', leading to some absolute duds, but equally some utterly vital music that a band like the Scream, with their overly defined sense of 'correctness', could never possibly hope to reach.

The fact that any self-respecting band in the year 2008 can still cite Arthur bloody Lee as a main point of reference says everything about their ever decreasing cultural validity. And until they feel able to throw their Lester Bangs paperbacks into the bin and sign someone like Dougal, Dillinja, Ferry Corsten or Wiley to man the decks, they'll continue to be so.

[Cantankerous]

let it be known that i want to marry him because he's got a fucking great band and he's a sezzzzy beast. i don't give a shit how much of an ass he is.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Although I think it's just about possible to overstate the crapness of the Scream, I think it's a little OTT to think of them in this kind of zeitgeistian manner. Screamedelica did, to be fair, pick up on emerging currents (albeit in a far less interesting fashion than, say, the Happy Mondays). But what of the dreadful follow up? Or Riot City Blues? These hardly seemed to resonate with any general alt-guitar trajectory that I recall. If anything, they're the archetypical catch up kids - enlisting the likes of Mani and Kevin Shields when, in footballing terms, they were firmly residing on indie rock's equiv. of the free transfer list. With the exception of recruiting Andy Weatherall for Screamedelica, as well as a couple of Can references on albums like Xterminator, they've never shown any real interest in what's going on at the cutting edge of anything (as if Can could ever possibly be considered cutting edge so long after the event anyway). Their failure is that they seem to judge all music against an approved list of 'greats', culled primarily from the years 1968-1973. As such, whole areas of interest are completely missing from their work. They supposedly embrace dance culture, but when we look at that claim, what we find is that actually this is just an excuse for them to plow the usual Coltrane-Sly Stone-Krautrock-Parliament axis, with seemingly no regard for genuinely groundbreaking later developments in the field, provided by the likes of Detroit and European Techno, Hardcore, Jungle/Drum and Bass, Happy Hardcore, Garage, Grime, Trance, et al.

Madonna has always struck me as being somewhat omnivorous in her quest for the 'new', leading to some absolute duds, but equally some utterly vital music that a band like the Scream, with their overly defined sense of 'correctness', could never possibly hope to reach.

The fact that any self-respecting band in the year 2008 can still cite Arthur bloody Lee as a main point of reference says everything about their ever decreasing cultural validity. And until they feel able to throw their Lester Bangs paperbacks into the bin and sign someone like Dougal, Dillinja, Ferry Corsten or Wiley to man the decks, they'll continue to be so.

I love you let's get married.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Glice

I love you let's get married.

So long as you promise to wear white, and there's no marzipan on the cake.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

let it be known that i want to marry him because he's got a fucking great band and he's a sezzzzy beast. i don't give a shit how much of an ass he is.

Have 'im! I've got Glice, and he has a far larger member. So there!
AND we'll have the better music for walking up the aisle to, biatch:http://youtube.com/watch?v=xVhVhjTgJAY

[MellySingsDoom]

If dr666 and Glice are getting married, can me and sarramkrop be the DJ's at the reception? PS. Killer choon there - white gloves and glow-sticks ahoy.

[demonrail666]

Naah, we're getting Gillespie in to spin some Badfinger. None a that poof shit for us!

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Naah, we're getting Gillespie in to spin some Badfinger. None a that poof shit for us!

You call a fiyah of de bluefoot battybwoys den? (Translation: So are you wearing the trousers, or is it Glice?)

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

You call a fiyah of de bluefoot battybwoys den? (Translation: So are you wearing the trousers, or is it Glice?)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xMhWd7mf0M

[MellySingsDoom]

That's more like it, good manly heterosexual music. Neil Tennant seems to be rocking a Steve Albini look in that video.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

That's more like it, good manly heterosexual music. Neil Tennant seems to be rocking a Steve Albini look in that video.

True enough, but I cleverly/annoyingly edited the song selection. Try it again battyman

[MellySingsDoom]

Arrrggghhhhhhh!

[demonrail666]

Any road, back on topic:

The Primals at their best (just to prove I'm not TOTALLY anti):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aB6gH_vqs4w

And at their worst (just so we don't get carried away):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fvzI9AqeIog

And at the end of the day, Gillespie's tartan army could only watch and shit itself in response to the best version of the best song by the best rock band of the last twenty years:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7fWYtIdJD7M

[Ciccone Warhol Monroe]

what no good bands left?

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

the best rock band of the last twenty years

seriously?

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

seriously?

Well, probably not. Although for about six months at the end of the 80s they might have been. Or at least it felt like that to me at the time.

[Toilet & Bowels]

if someone put a gun to my head and asked me to name the greatest rock band of the last twenty years i think this band would the band whose name would pop out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqwtXeI1AFo

although i don't necessarily agree with myself, i don't really disagree either.

[Glice]

I insist upon Start the Riot for the first dance. Otherwise, I'm pretty easy (although the moratorium on kweeyars y'cavven de wi'yout).