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Old Yesterday, 05:36 PM   #721
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I remember very well the canvass I did in a seat Labour hoped (still hopes!) to get. Huge anger at Brexit - they loathed Johnson. But they feared one thing more: Jeremy Corbyn.

Door after door after door.



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Old Yesterday, 06:01 PM   #722
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looks like yr beloved jo swinson (lmfao) is a goner
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This sucks

I don't get it. The Australian 'left' party weren't far enough away from our right, and they lost an election that they never should have. Now the British one's gone way out, and they've also lost - gotten smashed.
Maybe I bought into an echo chamber? But it's hard when the other side are all completely shit.

2020 isn't going to be fun. Ah well, time to become anarcho-hedonists.
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Old Yesterday, 07:41 PM   #724
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This sucks

I don't get it. The Australian 'left' party weren't far enough away from our right, and they lost an election that they never should have. Now the British one's gone way out, and they've also lost - gotten smashed.
Maybe I bought into an echo chamber? But it's hard when the other side are all completely shit.

2020 isn't going to be fun. Ah well, time to become anarcho-hedonists.
the middle class will be the middle class: petty, self-interested, pedestrian, practical, center-right. no time for big dreams or utopias—those are left for idealists, students, artists, dreamers, failures, and malcontents.

other failures and malcontents are attracted by far-right dreams and visions slapped together by bad artists (e.g., hitler).

the middle class can go left but only when exausted by conservatism and center-massaged and lubricated (“new labor”). middle class will also go far right when they fear the far left, eg, hitlerism.

people are really predictable, and demonyo’s prediction nailed this result months ago.
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reuters reports furreal the snp took swinson’s sear

and boris kept his

OH, AND CORBYN THREW THE TOWEL. no need for removal.

wait... i dont get what corbyn is saying
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Old Today, 12:56 AM   #726
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He's standing down but will remain leader until the party selects a replacement. Problem is there's still a powerful hard-left element in place and they'il want one of their people put in, insisting (ludicrously imo) that the problem tonight was with Corbyn, rather than their policies. The issue then is whether the more centrist wing of the party is strong enough to counter them and get one of their people in instead.
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Old Today, 01:04 AM   #727
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Well there's five years to squabble between each other before we go again. Five years...feel like this place will be unrecognisable by then.
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The problem tonight was leave voting constituencies in the North East and Midlands decimating the traditional Labour vote. There was no way for Corbyn to pick a side and win, it just wasn't our time.

Labour's policies have widespread public support but absolutely none of it mattered. It was all down to Brexit. Brexit brexit brexit.

If you think Labour pivoting back to the centre will in any way rejuvenate the party then go ask Brown and Miliband. Or ask the Lib Dems. Labour need to stick with the same economic and social platform but with new leadership who can bring new strategies.

Though why do I care? I'm Scottish, I'm voting to get the fuck out of the union as fast as possible at this point hahaha.
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The problem tonight was leave voting constituencies in the North East and Midlands decimating the traditional Labour vote. There was no way for Corbyn to pick a side and win, it just wasn't our time.

Labour's policies have widespread public support but absolutely none of it mattered. It was all down to Brexit. Brexit brexit brexit.

If you think Labour pivoting back to the centre will in any way rejuvenate the party then go ask Brown and Miliband. Or ask the Lib Dems. Labour need to stick with the same economic and social platform but with new leadership who can bring new strategies.

Though why do I care? I'm Scottish, I'm voting to get the fuck out of the union as fast as possible at this point hahaha.

The Union is dying, these are its final gasps for air. There's an irrevocable divide now. Unfortunately I voted for Scotland to remain in 2014, but now I'd say fuck it, let's get out.

Has there ever been a bigger political clusterfuck than Brexit? What in fuck's name was this country thinking?!
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The Union is dying, these are its final gasps for air. There's an irrevocable divide now. Unfortunately I voted for Scotland to remain in 2014, but now I'd say fuck it, let's get out.

Has there ever been a bigger political clusterfuck than Brexit? What in fuck's name was this country thinking?!

I'll honestly never forgive Cameron for allowing that vote to happen. Not that he'll care about me, like. Other countries that had dabbled in the idea have clearly realised it's not worth the aggro it's caused.
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Alan Johnson nails it here for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dme8AwpThAc
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I'll honestly never forgive Cameron for allowing that vote to happen. Not that he'll care about me, like. Other countries that had dabbled in the idea have clearly realised it's not worth the aggro it's caused.

People are now radicalised about something most of them didn't give a fuck about pre-2014 or so.

We have a lot of major, major issues in the world, with our global environment going down the shitter in particular. And we spend 3 years with our discourse dominated (and dominated impotently) by Brexit, something which will improve nobody's life in any tangible way, and will weaken the country's influence and potentially break it apart... it's actually quite funny in its stupidity and short-sightedness.

I fear Labour are finished in a lot of ways, on the basis of this election. I disagree with Derek, they need a centre-left leadership candidate with a bit of fucking charisma, and ASAP...
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