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Old 11.13.2019, 01:48 PM   #1
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Old 11.13.2019, 04:21 PM   #3
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is it coming out on mute?

so what do you guys think of this track? I am kind of confused.
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Old 11.13.2019, 06:31 PM   #4
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first impression: very impressive. love the sound!
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Old 11.14.2019, 03:38 PM   #6
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I'm also confused a bit, doesn't sound like Lee (as in not a guitar-driven song), not even the vocals, I double-checked the title to see if it was really him. But I do like it.


Here are some more dates:

https://www.eventbrite.be/e/lee-rana...f55c-265010541
Sunday April 5
Brugge, BE @ Concertgebouw Brugge - Kamermuziekzaal


https://www.tivolivredenburg.nl/agen...ee-06-04-2020/
Monday April 6
Utrecht, NL @ Tivoli / Helling
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https://www.tivolivredenburg.nl/agen...ee-06-04-2020/
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Utrecht, NL @ Tivoli / Helling

I like Utrecht so much.

Tivoli is such a strange, but interesting how should I call it, complex, but never knew Muziekcentrum Verderburg was demolished to make a way for the Tivoli.
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I like this track. It is like Xiu Xiu grew older and wiser.......and Paul Simon joined.....
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Old 11.14.2019, 07:21 PM   #9
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I like Utrecht so much.

Tivoli is such a strange, but interesting how should I call it, complex, but never knew Muziekcentrum Verderburg was demolished to make a way for the Tivoli.
It is actually not demolished. The big hall is what used to be Vredenburg, around 2014 it got renovated and on top of and next to it the other halls were built. It's now called TivoliVredenburg, because the two venues were merged.
See/translate the history oage for more details

Now it gets confusing. Lee's concert will be at a different venue named De Helling, it's sort of a subsidiary venue
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This thread took a weird turn. Also, the spam situation is so bad that I find myself checking links in posts by even the most credible contributors...


Interesting that Ral is co-credited. I loved The Dust, but I think Lee's collaboration with Ral has opened some really interesting doors, sonically and structurally. This new track is a perfect example of that!
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Old 11.17.2019, 12:33 AM   #11
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Haven't listened to the new track yet. Am waiting to receive my shrinkwrapped copy at the end of 2020's Q1 or summat. Alright I've seen Lee perform live three times (four if you count a full soundcheck which was rocking and at one point hilarious; in any case it's a pathetic number compared to the experience of most people on this board, I guess): once with Sonic Youth a few months before The Eternal came out; then with The Dust (Alan Licht, Steve Shelley and the late great Tim Luntzel) shortly before Last Night On Earth "dropped" ; and the third time as the Electric Trim Trio (with Ral Refree and Booker Stardrum).

The SY show was solid and imperial, a snapshot of where they were at that point: finishing the Rather Ripped cycle, coming out of the Daydream Nation revisited gigs, introducing tunes like "Calming The Snake", and throwing in "the hits" for good measure ("The Burning Spear", "Expressway To Yr. Skull", "Schizophrenia", "Kool Thing", "100%", "Bull In The Heather"); nothing from the Washing Machine to Sonic Nurse years, but what was I going to do, complain? First time they'd ever been to my country, motherfuckers! And they would eventually do only one more show here: the penultimate date of the tour from hell (which is to say, their penultimate date ever), a gig I didn't attend because it was part of one of those atrocious death-of-art events with a filthy load of bullcrap acts that don't have jack to do with each other or with ANYTHING except the mookish "I was there" factor. (If you've watched In Doubt, Shadow Him!, you've seen Lee saying to Mark Ibold that the very last show, the one in Brazil, was in a "shitty big giant festival" the very same could be said of their next-to-last appearance. If only we had a Big Ears and/or a Solid Sound).

The Dust performance, in a much more intimate joint, was finally what I'd been waiting for ages: LR as a singer-songwriter with a killer "backing" band, covering Neil Young and Talking Heads (and, just let me add this, playing the best R.E.M.-type song R.E.M. would never be able to come up with again after New Adventures In Hi-Fi, the absolutely wonderful "Angles"). Moving to the core musically and personally, as I got the chance to give Lee a made-up present (I suppose that made it a "fake news" present, before the term got hijacked remember we used to say "Faux News"?).

Last year, in an even smaller venue (which I'm all about, mind you, but I also think Lee deserves to play in the most elegant and majestic theater in town), I was also able to hand Mr. Ranaldo a present and then witness the Electric Trim Trio at full fucking blast. And NOW

 


is where this babbling post (thank you for reading this far) connects with what's been said on this thread: great as those first two occasions were, I had never seen Lee and one of his bands explode with such total sonic abandon. A big part of the reason behind it (or in front of it, rather!) was Refree: I immediately had to reconsider what I thought I'd heard on the Electric Trim album, because as a Nels Cline junkie I assumed all those guitar rave-ups were NC's. Refree "raved-up" like a BEAST on the six-string live (don't ask me what model it was; unless the thing says Rickenbacker and has a big number printed on it I won't be able to tell jack), and as if that wasn't enough he banged on the keyboards/synths/gadgets like Eno intending to get in a fight onstage with Ferry circa 1973. Guy knocked my socks off.

Reviewing Metal Machine Music for Creem in 1976, Lester Bangs wrote, "If you ever thought feedback was the best thing that ever happened to the guitar, well, Lou just got rid of the guitars". Dunno whether Lee and Ral have literally gotten rid of the guitars this time around, but if the sound follows that raw/furious and yet heartwarming "electronic" path, you can sure as fucking shit count me IN. And if it doesn't, count me in anyway ya think I'm gonna reject such an effort by these cats?
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anyway what was this thread about originally?

The fact that Lee has seldom been more bitchen.
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Old 11.19.2019, 02:12 PM   #13
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it’s crocodile dundee, duh

everyone knows that

he retired from knife fighting and ran for office. been there for the last 3 decades AT LEAST.

anyway, speaking of deadheads, did i hear some mickey hart influences in this lee track?

i like all of it except for the chorus thing. just personally i am not cray about choruses. choirs? people singing the fuck together. it’s a defect of mine.

but love the percussion, i do
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ah, poor lee, betrayed by his own fans

We must cut it out (here), I agree.
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anyway i was trying to say i fucking love the percussion on this track. it’s at the same time sparse but lively. great use of silence between each beat or clang or bang or. and at the end when it picks up, it’s like that “ah! bright wings” hopkins line.

the 3 minute edit loses that best part! long version or gtfo. hahaha.

more previews por favor. i mean prelistens. i mean listens.

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