bad religion appreciation thread - Page 2

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 08.24.2010, 10:37 AM

yuck!

Derek · 08.24.2010, 11:23 AM

Bad Religion are awesome. What's wrong with you people?

An album like Against the Grain is just melody after melody of brilliance.

GeneticKiss · 08.24.2010, 11:28 AM

Rob Instigator · 08.24.2010, 11:42 AM

bad religion is boring. never got into them. hated that "melodic hardcore" sound, like gorilla biscuits and shit, without the humor.

and bad brains were among the FIRST hardcore bands, and they were awesome and they are awesome. and go buy BLACK DOTS motherfuckers, and listen to some hardcore and throw away the bad religion.

gualbert · 08.24.2010, 12:03 PM

Good band in the early 80's.
Then they split, reunite and turn very bad (like most band who reunite)

Derek · 08.24.2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

bad religion is boring. never got into them. hated that "melodic hardcore" sound, like gorilla biscuits and shit, without the humor.

and bad brains were among the FIRST hardcore bands, and they were awesome and they are awesome. and go buy BLACK DOTS motherfuckers, and listen to some hardcore and throw away the bad religion.

I think Bad Religion is way more interesting than Bad Brains or whoever.. brilliant melody after melody of guitar interplay and fantastic vocals that don't just follow the guitar at all times. Many hardcore bands never had that, you should stop being a purist.

atsonicpark · 08.24.2010, 02:11 PM

Early Bad Religion are brilliant, unless you only like simple tired generic boring 3 chord punk crap. They're fantastic, one of the few punk bands I can listen to besides Wire (who got over the "punk" thing very quickly), Misfits, and Descendents. I guess I can see someone not into Bad Religion if they don't like melody, or aren't into interesting songwriting.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

yuck!

atsonicpark · 08.24.2010, 02:12 PM

ALL AGES is probably the best greatest hits collection EVER.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 08.24.2010, 04:13 PM

The coolest thing about Bad Religion is their logo. But even that's sorta lame, due to it being associated with them.

I bet you think Alkaline Trio is pretty bitchin' too, eh?

atsonicpark · 08.24.2010, 04:19 PM

No, I don't, and they don't sound anything alike, so what's your point? I'm sitting here, trying to think of any association whatsoever they have with each other, and the only conclusion I can come up with is you've probably never bothered listening to any of the classic Bad Religion albums.

Anyway, Bad Religion straight-up has some of the best harmonies EVER; beautiful 3 part harmony vocals.. amazing. Melodically creative, great riffs, fast-as-hell, intelligent lyrics (and I don't care about lyrics); most bands will never write a song half as good as Walk Away, the Generator and Against the Grain title tracks, I Want Something More, etc.

Here's All Ages (46mb): http://www.mediafire.com/?za1umkmz0zz ...

Derek · 08.24.2010, 04:22 PM

Against the FUCKING GRAIN! One of the best punk albums ever.

Everything up to Recipe For Hate is essential, I can't believe the hate this band gets from people on this forum. Fuck the fans, fuck the 'image', fuck the 'scene', fuck the history; it's just GREAT music.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 08.24.2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

No, I don't, and they don't sound anything alike,

Really? They both sound like complete shit to me!

atsonicpark · 08.24.2010, 04:25 PM

Derek, there's no reason to get upset about it; a lot of people just flat out write off good music because they don't like their fans, and they heard one random song on some skateboarding game and now associate the entire band with that one song and their annoying fanbase. That's not just this forum, it's the entire internet; it's people, in general. I just don't personally understand why people unfamiliar with a band bother replying negatively to an appreciation thread. I am critical of certain bands -- boring ass Deer Hunter, wankfest Mars Volta, and whatever -- but I actually listen to their albums, often multiple times, before I make an informed opinion about their work. And in cases where I simply can't get through an album (see In Rainbows, which I've made it through, but I found it nearly impossible to sit through it in one sitting -- it's their shortest work and fels like their longest), I make a point to mention that to. I don't honestly believe most of the people writing off BR have actually sat down and listened -- really listened -- to any of their work, but that's okay. If they don't want their lives enhanced by melodically complex and brilliant music, that's their loss. Either way, you can tell which people haven't really even bothered listening to their work, because it's the ones who can't even form an opinion beyond "they suck." I think it's a lot more interesting to break down why a band sucks. For example, In Rainbows -- the most overrated album to ever exist -- sucks because the vocals are shockingly bad (and there's a lot of them; I am starting to think the only reason Kid A and Amnesiac are so great is becuase Thom didn't sing too much, and when he did his voice was usually buried or effected), there isn't any creativity (songs that aren't even as good as the worst songs on Hail to the Thief, some tired boring electronics with some boring midtempo Pablo Honey-esque rockers; what the fuck?!), and ... well, jsut the lyrics.. it's Thom Yorke's sexy album... he's trying to be romantic.. it's almost like a Radiohead parody... anyway... that's a lot more interesting, and can open up further avenues of discussion, than just saying "OH THEY SUCK"

atsonicpark · 08.24.2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

Really? They both sound like complete shit to me!

I know they're not as melodically pleasing and rifftastic as the latest Twitzid joint, man, but they're trying. Give 'em a break!

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 08.24.2010, 04:27 PM

No need for the link, Adam. I have Rhapsody, and am giving All Ages a shot right now. I'm only on the first track, but his voice is wretched...I don't know how much more of this I can take.

PS: The latest Twiztid cd is awful.

atsonicpark · 08.24.2010, 04:33 PM

His voice is melody-tastic, and I love melodies. He has great control over it. And all those harmonies.. man.

The best songs on All Ages are You Are the Government, The Answer, Against the Grain, Generator, Anesthesia, No Control, Atomic Garden, No Direction, Automatic Man, Change of Ideas, Walk Away. The guitar interplay in Generator is amazing. Is that finger tapping?

Glice · 08.24.2010, 04:33 PM

I saw BR a week or so ago. Honestly one of the dullest shows I've ever been to. I listened to some of their stuff afterwards - utterly shite. But, on the other hand, I think there's something very wrong with British people getting it. IMO and all that.

ann ashtray · 08.24.2010, 04:36 PM

I never was one of those that looked for strong melodies within punk rock, which isn't to say there isn't some stuff out there that I dig (Wipers...)

Bad Religion WERE ok...but never one of my favorites. There's just so much better stuff from that era of punk rock.

SONIC GAIL · 08.24.2010, 05:04 PM

I was obsessed with them for a few years. Went to 2 of their shows back in the 90s. Grew out of it and back into the youth. I bought generator a few months ago cause it reminds me of hangin with ryan my senior year.

Pax Americana · 08.24.2010, 05:24 PM

Man, I don't get the hate. Bad Religion are fucking awesome! Against the Grain is one of the greatest punk rock albums of all time. That record has some of the most inspired an inspiring punk songs I've ever heard. I mean c'mon, Walk Away, Against the Grain, Faith Alone, Modern Man!? Classics.

The last awesome album they put out was The Empire Strikes First. That one came out at the height of the Bush regime's insanity, and the band sounds so fucking pissed off. The drumming on that album is fucking awesome.

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Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	yuck!
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08.24.2010, 11:23 AM	#22
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Bad Religion are awesome. What's wrong with you people? An album like Against the Grain is just melody after melody of brilliance.
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GeneticKiss expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,666	Meh __________________ https://handinthefates.bandcamp.com<--music
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08.24.2010, 11:42 AM	#24
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,930	bad religion is boring. never got into them. hated that "melodic hardcore" sound, like gorilla biscuits and shit, without the humor. and bad brains were among the FIRST hardcore bands, and they were awesome and they are awesome. and go buy BLACK DOTS motherfuckers, and listen to some hardcore and throw away the bad religion. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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08.24.2010, 12:03 PM	#25
gualbert the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,088	Good band in the early 80's. Then they split, reunite and turn very bad (like most band who reunite)
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08.24.2010, 02:12 PM	#28
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	ALL AGES is probably the best greatest hits collection EVER.
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08.24.2010, 04:13 PM	#29
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	The coolest thing about Bad Religion is their logo. But even that's sorta lame, due to it being associated with them. I bet you think Alkaline Trio is pretty bitchin' too, eh?
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08.24.2010, 04:19 PM	#30
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	No, I don't, and they don't sound anything alike, so what's your point? I'm sitting here, trying to think of any association whatsoever they have with each other, and the only conclusion I can come up with is you've probably never bothered listening to any of the classic Bad Religion albums. Anyway, Bad Religion straight-up has some of the best harmonies EVER; beautiful 3 part harmony vocals.. amazing. Melodically creative, great riffs, fast-as-hell, intelligent lyrics (and I don't care about lyrics); most bands will never write a song half as good as Walk Away, the Generator and Against the Grain title tracks, I Want Something More, etc. Here's All Ages (46mb): http://www.mediafire.com/?za1umkmz0zz ...
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08.24.2010, 04:22 PM	#31
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Against the FUCKING GRAIN! One of the best punk albums ever. Everything up to Recipe For Hate is essential, I can't believe the hate this band gets from people on this forum. Fuck the fans, fuck the 'image', fuck the 'scene', fuck the history; it's just GREAT music.
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08.24.2010, 04:25 PM	#33
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Derek, there's no reason to get upset about it; a lot of people just flat out write off good music because they don't like their fans, and they heard one random song on some skateboarding game and now associate the entire band with that one song and their annoying fanbase. That's not just this forum, it's the entire internet; it's people, in general. I just don't personally understand why people unfamiliar with a band bother replying negatively to an appreciation thread. I am critical of certain bands -- boring ass Deer Hunter, wankfest Mars Volta, and whatever -- but I actually listen to their albums, often multiple times, before I make an informed opinion about their work. And in cases where I simply can't get through an album (see In Rainbows, which I've made it through, but I found it nearly impossible to sit through it in one sitting -- it's their shortest work and fels like their longest), I make a point to mention that to. I don't honestly believe most of the people writing off BR have actually sat down and listened -- really listened -- to any of their work, but that's okay. If they don't want their lives enhanced by melodically complex and brilliant music, that's their loss. Either way, you can tell which people haven't really even bothered listening to their work, because it's the ones who can't even form an opinion beyond "they suck." I think it's a lot more interesting to break down why a band sucks. For example, In Rainbows -- the most overrated album to ever exist -- sucks because the vocals are shockingly bad (and there's a lot of them; I am starting to think the only reason Kid A and Amnesiac are so great is becuase Thom didn't sing too much, and when he did his voice was usually buried or effected), there isn't any creativity (songs that aren't even as good as the worst songs on Hail to the Thief, some tired boring electronics with some boring midtempo Pablo Honey-esque rockers; what the fuck?!), and ... well, jsut the lyrics.. it's Thom Yorke's sexy album... he's trying to be romantic.. it's almost like a Radiohead parody... anyway... that's a lot more interesting, and can open up further avenues of discussion, than just saying "OH THEY SUCK"
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08.24.2010, 04:27 PM	#35
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	No need for the link, Adam. I have Rhapsody, and am giving All Ages a shot right now. I'm only on the first track, but his voice is wretched...I don't know how much more of this I can take. PS: The latest Twiztid cd is awful.
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08.24.2010, 04:33 PM	#36
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	His voice is melody-tastic, and I love melodies. He has great control over it. And all those harmonies.. man. The best songs on All Ages are You Are the Government, The Answer, Against the Grain, Generator, Anesthesia, No Control, Atomic Garden, No Direction, Automatic Man, Change of Ideas, Walk Away. The guitar interplay in Generator is amazing. Is that finger tapping?
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08.24.2010, 04:36 PM	#38
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	I never was one of those that looked for strong melodies within punk rock, which isn't to say there isn't some stuff out there that I dig (Wipers...) Bad Religion WERE ok...but never one of my favorites. There's just so much better stuff from that era of punk rock. __________________ Team Thurston!
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08.24.2010, 05:04 PM	#39
SONIC GAIL invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I moved from hillbilly Florida to hillbilly Alabama Posts: 3,723	I was obsessed with them for a few years. Went to 2 of their shows back in the 90s. Grew out of it and back into the youth. I bought generator a few months ago cause it reminds me of hangin with ryan my senior year. __________________
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08.24.2010, 05:24 PM	#40
Pax Americana expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,187	Man, I don't get the hate. Bad Religion are fucking awesome! Against the Grain is one of the greatest punk rock albums of all time. That record has some of the most inspired an inspiring punk songs I've ever heard. I mean c'mon, Walk Away, Against the Grain, Faith Alone, Modern Man!? Classics. The last awesome album they put out was The Empire Strikes First. That one came out at the height of the Bush regime's insanity, and the band sounds so fucking pissed off. The drumming on that album is fucking awesome.
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