Beatles=most overrated band ever! - Page 5

atari 2600 · 12.28.2006, 10:47 AM

Those bands have all been insulted here in other pages plenty of times though.

On the bright side, punk rock lives.

On the not-so-bright side, an appreciation for fine arrangement, real songs, and actual music suffers.

Of course, The Beatles were fairly punk at times themselves. And even when their music didn't sound heavy, the lyrics or song conceptions are pretty darn punky. As anyone should know, some of their compositions are also very avant-garde.
As an important note, it certainly wasn't safe for The Beatles to be so foward-thinking, but thanks to their efforts, it was a lot safer for other future artists to truly follow their muse if the effort bended, blended or even destroyed genres and created new ones.

Look up the wiki listing for Rubber Soul which CHOUT espoused as his favorite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_Soul
This is The Beatles album where Dylan's influence is beginning to be really felt strongly.
George Martin's production for Rubber Soul provided the first of many blueprints to come for the "psychedelic" music of the sixties.
'Norwegian Wood' first used the sitar and provided the germ for world music. (The Kinks helped there too, truth be told). 'Michelle' is gorgeous postmodern ditty. 'In My Life'...genius lyrics, glorious vocal...R&B meets baroque. 'Drive My Car' is a women's rights anthem. The corollary is 'Run for Your Life' which is the most devil-may-care genuinely violent jealous lover's ode this side of Robert Johnson. Alas, for love and suffering are, in many cases, bound together. The record explores the majesty of love in the philosophical sense with 'The Word,' but many other songs explore the many facets and nuances of human relationships.

Rob Instigator · 12.28.2006, 10:56 AM

peope are INFLUENCED by bands' MUSIC

the Beatles are the single most covered band in the world. their songs have been covered countless times by artists ranging the ful spectrum of rock, blues, jazz, opera, country, R&B, folk, bluegrass, metal, etc etc.

there is noone else to compare.

they are arguably the greatest songwriters in rock history.

Impossible to overrate.
Not impossible to dislike, but impossible to dismiss.

The beatles saved my life at 12, and sonic youth saved my life at 16.

atari 2600 · 12.28.2006, 11:26 AM

Always looking to mirror the culture and, in turn, to also contribute to it with their art, The Beatles are quite formidable magicians as well as being exceptionally fine musicians and songwriters.

Savage Clone · 12.28.2006, 11:28 AM

"Not impossible to dislike, but impossible to dismiss."

I guess this is OK for someone to say if he or she is a fan, then?
That's all I was attempting to say as well. I just didn't say it with an air of Supreme Reverence.

atari 2600 · 12.28.2006, 11:30 AM

ANY meaningful way

haha

Savage Clone · 12.28.2006, 11:33 AM

Well, thanks to your edit, I now look like I was being jerky to Rob.

I will give you credit for mocking me with my own words though. Shows you are a thorough reader as well as a compulsive self-editor.

atari 2600 · 12.28.2006, 11:37 AM

You've been disrespectful to Rob the whole time. Look dude, go back and read Rob's posts, especially the one before you wrote your first long one.
The truth is undeniable.
What is also undeniable is that you have your head way up your fucking ass and that you give his arguments no weight at all.

Savage Clone · 12.28.2006, 11:40 AM

Rob and I disagree all the time and we still get along great. He's good at not taking it personally when people don't always dig the same sounds as he does. I have no problem with him and was never intentionally disrespecting him in any way.

You, on the other hand, are pathetically easy to bait.

Savage Clone · 12.28.2006, 11:41 AM

More edits too, I see.

Rob Instigator · 12.28.2006, 11:46 AM

BUT WE ALL LOVE SONIC YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and what about drive like jehu? they rock!

porkmarras · 12.28.2006, 11:51 AM

I knew someone would say 'Sonic Life!',at one point.

Glice · 12.28.2006, 11:55 AM

I'm pleased to see that the empirical fact of the Beatles' utter superiority over everything ever has been proven, once again. Thanks, Sonic Youth diaspora!

compulsive diarrhea, jico · 12.28.2006, 12:13 PM

this forum is a screaming field of sonic love

luxinterior · 12.28.2006, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

BUT WE ALL LOVE SONIC YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate that godawful band.

Anti · 12.28.2006, 03:12 PM

why call a band that contributed that much to the history of music overrated?

Rob Instigator · 12.28.2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

WOW - The Instigator who has done a wonderful job on other threads of explaining how / why there is no God or Higher Power does an superb job on explaining why he feels the Beatles are the God / Higher Power of the music world.

When you consider it was the Beatles who said, "We're more popular than Jesus" (acknowledging there is a Jesus / Higher Power) and a large part of their music was directly influenced by their search for a Higher Power......and it was this music that saved Rob's life at age 12......where did the circle become unbroken / what did thier music save your life from?

When lennon said the "Beatles are bigger than Jesus" he meant that the kids loved them and found more meaning with the Beatles (at the time of his statement) than with Jesus or the church's teachings. With that taken into account the statement is in no way an acknowledgement that jesus is the divine incarnation of the one true god.

the beatles saved me from a life of tedium and despair. Around age 12 I really began to cement my general ideas about the universe and about the whole of sprituality and religion and the ideas of humanity's worship of "supernatural" beings throughout our teeny tiny brief existance on the planet earth (around one million years as oppossed to the 5-6 BILLION year age of the Earth) I found more, as lennon said, in music and art, and in the beatles music in particular, when I was 12 than in anything the religions had to offer. They brought me comfort, for the realization that there is no god/gods and that we are truly but one tiny aspect of an inconceivably stupendously large universe is a fucking scary, humbling, and chilling one. they gave me hope that despite the absence of any higher being/creator/gods/soul/etc. there was something sublime in the world, something that could bring about trhe feelings of ecstasy and epiphany that many associate with religious occasions. Sonic Youth did that for me as well at age 16 or so. They both opened up a new world for me, a world that to me was life-affirming and joy-providing.

and to think it was just four dudes from a crumbling wharf town who loved little richard and elvis and chuck berry.

SONIC LIFE!

porkmarras · 12.28.2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti

why call a band that contributed that much to the history of music overrated?

The world of intelligence in music hasn't stopped since and before The Beatles.Wether someone agrees with it or not is totally and insignificantly irrelevant to what's been going on and will go on.The Beatles were certainly important to what happened on the surface,in the sixties.By no means they are an indication of 'everything' that happened,though.If you are too narrow minded and plain ignorant to understand that,live in that sort of phantom reality and accept the fact that there are a number of people who moved on since your very own exsistence.

Rob Instigator · 12.28.2006, 05:12 PM

sonic life!

porkmarras · 12.28.2006, 05:13 PM

You should get one.

finding nobody · 12.28.2006, 05:17 PM

The Pot Calling The Kettle Black

SONIC TOOTH

12.28.2006, 10:47 AM	#81
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	Those bands have all been insulted here in other pages plenty of times though. On the bright side, punk rock lives. On the not-so-bright side, an appreciation for fine arrangement, real songs, and actual music suffers. Of course, The Beatles were fairly punk at times themselves. And even when their music didn't sound heavy, the lyrics or song conceptions are pretty darn punky. As anyone should know, some of their compositions are also very avant-garde. As an important note, it certainly wasn't safe for The Beatles to be so foward-thinking, but thanks to their efforts, it was a lot safer for other future artists to truly follow their muse if the effort bended, blended or even destroyed genres and created new ones. Look up the wiki listing for Rubber Soul which CHOUT espoused as his favorite. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_Soul This is The Beatles album where Dylan's influence is beginning to be really felt strongly. George Martin's production for Rubber Soul provided the first of many blueprints to come for the "psychedelic" music of the sixties. 'Norwegian Wood' first used the sitar and provided the germ for world music. (The Kinks helped there too, truth be told). 'Michelle' is gorgeous postmodern ditty. 'In My Life'...genius lyrics, glorious vocal...R&B meets baroque. 'Drive My Car' is a women's rights anthem. The corollary is 'Run for Your Life' which is the most devil-may-care genuinely violent jealous lover's ode this side of Robert Johnson. Alas, for love and suffering are, in many cases, bound together. The record explores the majesty of love in the philosophical sense with 'The Word,' but many other songs explore the many facets and nuances of human relationships.
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12.28.2006, 10:56 AM	#82
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,930	peope are INFLUENCED by bands' MUSIC the Beatles are the single most covered band in the world. their songs have been covered countless times by artists ranging the ful spectrum of rock, blues, jazz, opera, country, R&B, folk, bluegrass, metal, etc etc. there is noone else to compare. they are arguably the greatest songwriters in rock history. Impossible to overrate. Not impossible to dislike, but impossible to dismiss. The beatles saved my life at 12, and sonic youth saved my life at 16. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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12.28.2006, 11:26 AM	#83
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	Always looking to mirror the culture and, in turn, to also contribute to it with their art, The Beatles are quite formidable magicians as well as being exceptionally fine musicians and songwriters.
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12.28.2006, 11:28 AM	#84
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,286	"Not impossible to dislike, but impossible to dismiss." I guess this is OK for someone to say if he or she is a fan, then? That's all I was attempting to say as well. I just didn't say it with an air of Supreme Reverence.
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12.28.2006, 11:30 AM	#85
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	ANY meaningful way haha
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12.28.2006, 11:33 AM	#86
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,286	Well, thanks to your edit, I now look like I was being jerky to Rob. I will give you credit for mocking me with my own words though. Shows you are a thorough reader as well as a compulsive self-editor.
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12.28.2006, 11:37 AM	#87
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	You've been disrespectful to Rob the whole time. Look dude, go back and read Rob's posts, especially the one before you wrote your first long one. The truth is undeniable. What is also undeniable is that you have your head way up your fucking ass and that you give his arguments no weight at all.
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12.28.2006, 11:40 AM	#88
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,286	Rob and I disagree all the time and we still get along great. He's good at not taking it personally when people don't always dig the same sounds as he does. I have no problem with him and was never intentionally disrespecting him in any way. You, on the other hand, are pathetically easy to bait.
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12.28.2006, 11:41 AM	#89
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,286	More edits too, I see.
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12.28.2006, 11:46 AM	#90
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,930	BUT WE ALL LOVE SONIC YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and what about drive like jehu? they rock! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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12.28.2006, 11:51 AM	#91
porkmarras invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London - UK Posts: 14,313	I knew someone would say 'Sonic Life!',at one point. __________________
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12.28.2006, 12:13 PM	#93
compulsive diarrhea, jico 100% Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 711	this forum is a screaming field of sonic love
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Anti empty page Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 5	why call a band that contributed that much to the history of music overrated? __________________ consumption will fill the void
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12.28.2006, 05:12 PM	#98
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,930	sonic life! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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12.28.2006, 05:13 PM	#99
porkmarras invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London - UK Posts: 14,313	You should get one. __________________
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12.28.2006, 05:17 PM	#100
finding nobody invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,275	The Pot Calling The Kettle Black SONIC TOOTH
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