Go Back   Sonic Youth Gossip > Sonic Gossip
Reload this Page which way do you play Schiophrenia on guitar?
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read

 
Thread Tools
Old 03.26.2013, 10:11 AM   #1
Dr Chocolate
children of satan
 
Dr Chocolate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: woly boly
Posts: 286
Dr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's asses
according to our gods, this is the way it should be played
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8mCTThOE7A
after watching 3 different "cover" videos with all sorts of crazy tuning
how come i figured it out in standard tuning with a drop D
so how do i play then
use you typical D chord pattern but dont use the high E string
=============================
i use this as the intro on the G & B string
6&7 / 4&5 / 4&3 / 2&3 (repeat until virtigo)
=============================
the C# break down part (bar cord)
=============================
open D A D strings and harmonics on the G B E at 12th fret
4th fret with attached D pattern (no high E)
=============================
same D patterns (no high E)
9&10 / 7&8 / 6&7
then up to
16&17 / 14&15 / 13&14
=============================
then move this chord around here and there to match the madness
as for the outro
3 / 5 / 3 / 2 on the G string

i kinda accidentally found this out. it was literally a matter of luck.
the fact that i had the guitar tuned to 440 with a drop D
played it i dont know how many times last night
and 3 times this morning
i know it's not the greatest, but it seems to be the easiest
(as in you dont have to totally fuck with the tuning)
Dr Chocolate is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.27.2013, 04:21 AM   #2
nvanliforp
empty page
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 26
nvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's assesnvanliforp kicks all y'all's asses
Nice work.
Could you maybe do a video and upload to hear/see the result?

I do my version with the standard F#F#GGAA SY tuning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph9bWs8mpGc
nvanliforp is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.27.2013, 09:13 AM   #3
lo-fi suicide
little trouble girl
 
lo-fi suicide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: somewhere in russia
Posts: 95
lo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asseslo-fi suicide kicks all y'all's asses
Dr Chocolate, but of course you understand that your way is just similar sounding notes?
music is not just notes, there is nothing like two strings tuned in unison...
__________________
The lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead...
lo-fi suicide is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.27.2013, 12:28 PM   #4
scott v
expwy. to yr skull
 
scott v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,421
scott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by lo-fi suicide
Dr Chocolate, but of course you understand that your way is just similar sounding notes?
music is not just notes, there is nothing like two strings tuned in unison...

Exactly, there is a unique "chorus-type" effect when you tune strings in unison that cannot be replicated, even with effects units.
__________________
 
scott v is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.27.2013, 05:46 PM   #5
Dr Chocolate
children of satan
 
Dr Chocolate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: woly boly
Posts: 286
Dr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's asses
that's true, and i was even thinking, can you change the high E to either a B string, or upping it a notch to C that way it's mostly all 1 finger you will need for it.

and yes i will make a video of it
gimme a day or so
Dr Chocolate is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.28.2013, 08:09 PM   #6
logicalharm
little trouble girl
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 79
logicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asses
I always just use the DDDDAA but kind of bounce back and forth between the rhythm/"lead" parts
logicalharm is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.29.2013, 08:18 AM   #7
evollove
expwy. to yr skull
 
evollove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,421
evollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's asses
Here's a version in standard, except for low E--->F#

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-zella
evollove is online now   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.29.2013, 03:23 PM   #8
Dr Chocolate
children of satan
 
Dr Chocolate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: woly boly
Posts: 286
Dr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's asses
i just got to wait til my friend gets here, that way she can be in charge of the camera. been playing this over and over and over. i think changing the high E string to a B would be better for the sound, but i'm just talking about how it can be easy to play Sonic Youth on a normally tuned guitar. but after playing this several times. it would actually be better if it was with 2 guitars. one tuned all to D and another tuned to GGGBBB. but this is starting to sound like i'm going to need to cut a new fret nut. but fuck that. this is about playing it easier

should i mention my version of TOM VIOLENCE that i only use a capo?
but honestally, if i was going to put time into "that guitar"
then i would get a new fret nut and file it down myself
not like it takes long, but even if i could rig 2 extra stings into a guitar
(ala Steve Albini's 16 string guitar)
then i would double up the with certain strings
the only 4 i need

F# B C# A (aka 22x22x) or was it 22xx22
either way, that's how ive played it for decades
Dr Chocolate is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 03.29.2013, 03:24 PM   #9
Dr Chocolate
children of satan
 
Dr Chocolate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: woly boly
Posts: 286
Dr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's assesDr Chocolate kicks all y'all's asses
actually, what i need is a loud ass 12 string guitar to play these on
Dr Chocolate is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|


Thread Tools

All content 2006 Sonic Youth