Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination? - Page 253

Skuj · 11.07.2018, 12:07 AM

It's actually a pretty big deal, and a big change, that Dems have the House now, eh?

I just felt.....underwhelmed earlier.

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

It's actually a pretty big deal, and a big change, that Dems have the House now, eh?

I just felt.....underwhelmed earlier.

well it is underwhelming

the house can write bill after bill only to have it shut down in the senate

then again they control the budget and can do investigations

maybe they’ll stop paying for mar-a-lago. i dont know ha ha haa

but anyway...

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 12:32 AM

oh, another thing is that obamacare remains the law of the land and medicare wont be privatized

Bytor Peltor · 11.07.2018, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

It will be gridlock as usual, right?

Sigh......where was the blue wave? Fuck me!! (Make fun of me now, Bytor etc...)

Make fun of what?

The Blue wave crashed in 2016, didn’t do much in 2018, but look for it to build momentum as we approach 2020 with Biden/Beto as the likely Democratic nominees.

President Trump will thrive wheeling and dealing with Dems in the house. Historically the markets have fared well in such gridlock.

Tuesday was a great day!

ilduclo · 11.07.2018, 08:17 AM

Nancy Pelosi

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Make fun of what?

The Blue wave crashed in 2016, didn’t do much in 2018, but look for it to build momentum as we approach 2020 with Biden/Beto as the likely Democratic nominees.

President Trump will thrive wheeling and dealing with Dems in the house. Historically the markets have fared well in such gridlock.

Tuesday was a great day!

hahaha! biden/ beto sounds like a great comedy pair

beto btw is the name of bert in mexican sesame street (beto y enrique)

im surprised he got the numbers he did with some of his proposals like impeach trump and abolish ice

i mean i detest the trumpet (detest him), but where are the grounds for impeachment? too much wishful thinking. and then the senate would not convict him. but he did mobilize numbers i guess. read that texas is really a nonvoting state? low turnouts?

washington post talking of a red wall instead of a blue wave

tragically (for me anyway) it seems to be the case

now i don’t know what’s going on internally with the republicans but regardless, they have the numbers...

[...]

yeah, beto seems nice... would be great in portland

unfortunately this is a center-right country... too much to the right if you ask me

o well....

ilduclo · 11.07.2018, 08:59 AM

Paul Morrissey, Bob Hugin, PHARMA BROS get a big NO

evollove · 11.07.2018, 10:07 AM

My neck of the woods was brutal.

Even a local library levy failed!

Yeah, I live in a place where my neighbors say "Fuck the library."

(Actually, they say "lie-berry")

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove

My neck of the woods was brutal.

Even a local library levy failed!

Yeah, I live in a place where my neighbors say "Fuck the library."

(Actually, they say "lie-berry")

yep

im lucky my state is fairly progressive in some aspects

we got a new governor ! she blue...

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 12:20 PM

in arizona, a green party spoiler...

Skuj · 11.07.2018, 01:54 PM

The results are very "blue ripple", but again, the popular vote is 7-8% higher for Dems. That's very significant. But all that gerrymandering and concentration of votes bullshit......

Are USA elections the least democratic of all?

Seems that GOP has a head start by 5+%.

ilduclo · 11.07.2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

The results are very "blue ripple", but again, the popular vote is 7-8% higher for Dems. That's very significant. But all that gerrymandering and concentration of votes bullshit......

Are USA elections the least democratic of all?

Seems that GOP has a head start by 5+%.

yes, the state elections are very important, too, as the governor and the state legislatures do the vote count and the subsequent realignment of the districts for Representative's elections. We got a HUGE pickup when Scott Walker went down.

ilduclo · 11.07.2018, 02:16 PM

Oregon went great, ALL the measures I wanted passed got there, ALL the candidates I wanted got there. Just wonderful stuff here, from the bottom of the ticket to the top.
Among the significant measures:

2 really phony corporate anti-tax measures went down, even with the HUGE $$ the corpos poured in

anti-Sanctuary State measure down HARD, take that Trumpo!

anti-abortion measure down HARD

affordable housing initiative passed easily

and in the races

my Demo caucus for House and Sen now has supermajority (66.6%+) to pass revenue bills (state constitutional amendment a few years ago made the 2/3 requirement)

I got my county commission 3/2 Democrat now with a local employment/environmental expert and a female affordable housing advocate replacing 2 troglyditic extractive industry insiders gone

we have elected the nations first female bi-governor in Kate Brown, who is just a great governor as well, despite a wealthy surgeon pouring his own and Phil Knight's millions into negative ads (don;t buy Nike, even if they hired Kapernick)

we even passed school and road repair bonds.

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj

The results are very "blue ripple", but again, the popular vote is 7-8% higher for Dems. That's very significant. But all that gerrymandering and concentration of votes bullshit......

Are USA elections the least democratic of all?

Seems that GOP has a head start by 5+%.

yes

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 02:23 PM

2 native american women will take their seats in congress for the first time in history

that’s something to cheer for

extra bonus, one of them is lesbian

am i playing “identity politics”?

maybe a little...

...but since congress does not reflect the actual demographic composition of this country, i’d argue that straight (or deeply closeted) cis white males have been playing the identity politics game for muuuuuuuch muuuuuuuuuch longer...

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 02:43 PM

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 03:04 PM

on important news we missed with all this noise....

suck it, ajit

SUUUUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTT

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/05/supr...hallenges.html

Bytor Peltor · 11.07.2018, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj

The results are very "blue ripple", but again, the popular vote is 7-8% higher for Dems. That's very significant. But all that gerrymandering and concentration of votes bullshit......

Are USA elections the least democratic of all?

Seems that GOP has a head start by 5+%.

I’m not sure how you factor a “blue ripple” against a red wall?

Is it similar to:

LeBron James, Diddy & Rihanna endorsed Beto = LOST
Oprah & Will Farrell endorsed Abrams = LOST
Taylor Swift endorsed Bredesen = LOST
Alyssa Milano endorsed Gillum = LOST
SNL attacked Crenshaw = WIN

Possibly another way to factor it: (after first midterms)

Clinton -52/-8
Obama -63/-6
Trump -34/+3

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

I’m not sure how you factor a “blue ripple” against a red wall?

what he’s saying is the red wall is made of gerrymanders

which is true! (to a point)

but legislatures create those districts so.... hence the importance of voting in every election not just the presidential ones

-x-

anyway governor and senate are statewide so... rough

rough rough rough

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gotta admit the georgia dude helped himself bigly though

there’s nothing oprah can do against rampant voter supression

now the guy wants to count his own votes! LMAO

—

fortunately in kansas similar crook kris kobach’s candidacy ate the big one

(not just bit it, but swallowed it whole)

kansas: not as demented as we thought

!@#$%! · 11.07.2018, 05:21 PM

justice department: KKK out, KGB in

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Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,685	It's actually a pretty big deal, and a big change, that Dems have the House now, eh? I just felt.....underwhelmed earlier. __________________ Fuckit.
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ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Nancy Pelosi
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ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Paul Morrissey, Bob Hugin, PHARMA BROS get a big NO
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evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	My neck of the woods was brutal. Even a local library levy failed! Yeah, I live in a place where my neighbors say "Fuck the library." (Actually, they say "lie-berry")
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!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,457	in arizona, a green party spoiler...
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11.07.2018, 01:54 PM	#5051
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,685	The results are very "blue ripple", but again, the popular vote is 7-8% higher for Dems. That's very significant. But all that gerrymandering and concentration of votes bullshit...... Are USA elections the least democratic of all? Seems that GOP has a head start by 5+%. __________________ Fuckit.
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11.07.2018, 02:16 PM	#5053
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Oregon went great, ALL the measures I wanted passed got there, ALL the candidates I wanted got there. Just wonderful stuff here, from the bottom of the ticket to the top. Among the significant measures: 2 really phony corporate anti-tax measures went down, even with the HUGE $$ the corpos poured in anti-Sanctuary State measure down HARD, take that Trumpo! anti-abortion measure down HARD affordable housing initiative passed easily and in the races my Demo caucus for House and Sen now has supermajority (66.6%+) to pass revenue bills (state constitutional amendment a few years ago made the 2/3 requirement) I got my county commission 3/2 Democrat now with a local employment/environmental expert and a female affordable housing advocate replacing 2 troglyditic extractive industry insiders gone we have elected the nations first female bi-governor in Kate Brown, who is just a great governor as well, despite a wealthy surgeon pouring his own and Phil Knight's millions into negative ads (don;t buy Nike, even if they hired Kapernick) we even passed school and road repair bonds.
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11.07.2018, 02:23 PM	#5055
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,457	2 native american women will take their seats in congress for the first time in history that’s something to cheer for extra bonus, one of them is lesbian am i playing “identity politics”? maybe a little... ...but since congress does not reflect the actual demographic composition of this country, i’d argue that straight (or deeply closeted) cis white males have been playing the identity politics game for muuuuuuuch muuuuuuuuuch longer...
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!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,457	on important news we missed with all this noise.... suck it, ajit SUUUUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTT https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/05/supr...hallenges.html
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