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Old 01.12.2011, 02:55 AM   #41
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I think Contre is very good opener!!! I think it kind tuning you into right mood! Of course itīs not typical roc-album opener, but I think it is one reason I like it a lot!
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Old 01.12.2011, 03:00 AM   #42
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And I listen always the whole album (I couldnīt imagine to listen only part of it, I think it is so great entity! But I very rare listen only part of the album, I do it almost only with compilations).
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Old 01.12.2011, 08:41 PM   #43
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Yeah, for me this is a total 'album', rather than one where I tend to pick out certain songs. All the little different swirling 'unfinished' sounding bits are absolutely what make it one of their best. Like I think Heather Angel is a perfect example. What devides people into those who like Sunday/Wildflower Soul/Hits Of Sunshine/Karen Koltrane, but think the album is mixed, and those who adore the whole thing, is that the latter group will get to Heather Angel and just be like 'Yes! There is literally no better imaginable ending to this album that some whispy beautiful guitar scraps with Kim floating around them that suddenly turns into a broken sounding righteous jam and then just ENDS.' I'm very happy to fall into the latter camp.
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Old 01.13.2011, 06:08 AM   #44
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the first time I heard Heather Angel I almost creamed my pants.....well.....just at the 2nd half....where they atart jammin'.
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Old 01.13.2011, 06:09 AM   #45
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and well.....the slow part before the jam just gave me a boner...
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Old 01.13.2011, 08:07 AM   #46
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the first time I heard Heather Angel I almost creamed my pants.....well.....just at the 2nd half....where they atart jammin'.

First times I listened Heather Angel I didnīt know what to think about it. To me it sounded that they couldnīt carry on to be serious anymore and they started to play like children (in the end of the song). Now I like it a lot. Maybe I was too serius guy earlier!
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Old 01.14.2011, 04:01 AM   #47
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you talk about whats going on at the end, but since the start there is, depending on your mood or how you wanna see it, there is surely smth playful. in french tickler too.
its their lullaby aspect. dont you just love it? (washing machine has it a lot)

Yes, I love the whole Washing Machine and also Thousand leaves a lot already in the beginning! But there wasnīt that big changes on the middle of song before Heather Angel, that was my point. And that end part is kind of " we just play, no matter what it sounds"
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Old 01.14.2011, 02:31 PM   #48
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I always hated how they cut out part of the noise sequence in the Sunday video - right after the ballerinas, when Culkin takes off his hat.
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Old 01.17.2011, 05:08 PM   #49
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I disliked "Contre" for a long, long time, and perhaps that had some effect on my notorious opinion of the album itself. Don't know...but I like the track quite a lot now...though I rarely listen to this album in its entirety anymore (usually a side or two of vinyl rather than the CD from front to back). I dig that they decided to open the album with a piece snipped from a larger improvisation - it's basically just an injection of the SYR spirit into the lead-off track from the major label album! Then "Sunday" starts and everyone can breathe...for a few minutes...

I agree with this completely, and I was having just such an epiphany the last time I was listening to this record which is why I brought this thread back up in the first place.
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Old 01.17.2011, 07:45 PM   #50
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The only Sonic Youth album I still (and have since I discovered in circa '99) listen to on a regular basis. They really nailed it on that one.
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Old 01.17.2011, 11:55 PM   #51
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Tied with SYR5 and NYC Ghosts And Flowers for my least favorite SY record.......
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Old 01.18.2011, 02:23 AM   #52
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I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour because a live record from this tour would be my favorite thing ever. As it stands, good album.
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Old 01.18.2011, 09:01 AM   #53
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I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour

Like Iron Maiden does (almost). That's a good idea...... I wish Maiden would have done one after the Matter Of Life And Death tour I felt those were the strongest songs since they got back to the original lineup + Janick........
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Old 01.18.2011, 04:12 PM   #54
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I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour because a live record from this tour would be my favorite thing ever. As it stands, good album.

This is why, particularly in the post-Washing Machine era I have consistently compared live sonic youth with the grateful dead. SY tapers where are you?
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