[ZEROpumpkins]

Oh and you forgot to mention Tilebreaker. My favourite one off there next to My Kimono.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

yeah.. pbradley must be scared of innovative music.

No, just the concept of "math rock." I hate math. I hate the idea of reducing music to just math. Later I found out that Chavez came up with it as a diss. Makes sense then.

Anyways, I came around almost immediately after this thread and have since bought this album, Exploded Drawing, and Cro-Crane Secret. Now they're one of my favorite bands so thanks there. However, I do feel that Exploded Drawing is superior to Today's Active Lifestyles.

[Mrs. Butcher]

it's just a fucking name.

great album.

[atsonicpark]

99% of music is math and all music can be reduced to math if you think about it. I highly doubt there are that many bands that are complex for complexities sake, except something like Orthrelm.

The only thing with math rock and mathy bands is some of the dumb band names and song titles. Rumah Sakit, for example, has the worst song titles I've ever heard. And there's this fucking amazing math rock band called "Giraffes? Giraffes!" ....... I mean, come on!!

Other than that, yes, a 7/4 beat is usually more interesting than a 4/4 one.

[Mrs. Butcher]

all math rock bands I know aren't too keen on labelling themselves math rock anyway, other than Foals who are not a math rock band and are not very good.

[atsonicpark]

Right, I just think "math rock" is the term used by critics when a rock band breaks out of any kind of structural norm. For example, Shellac doesn't sound like math rock to me, they just have some odd song structures. Yet they get called math rock all the time.. They certainly don't sound like Don Cab or something.

Angular rock!

[batreleaser]

math is just an ugly word, all i think about is meanspirited algebra treachers (mrs savory=cunt) making me feel insignicant for not understanding finding the zeros in polynomial functions, even though i was a straight a student in every other class, they considred me dumb for not doing well in a subject that has very little to do with very little of our lives. but i like math rock as a genre of music.

[ZEROpumpkins]

Yeah, and when I first heard the term math rock used I was like ????

[Everyneurotic]

Originally Posted by pbradley

No, just the concept of "math rock." I hate math. I hate the idea of reducing music to just math...

sorry to tell you, but all music is math.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

sorry to tell you, but all music is math.

No shit, but treating it like math is what I dislike. Something to be quantified, equations to be considered. Music makes math human, but math should not make music inhuman.

[ZEROpumpkins]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

sorry to tell you, but all music is math.

I'd go more with science and physics, which is what math is a part of. I have now officially invented the term "Physics Rock", where one utilises the laws of Physics in order to ROCK OUT!

[Sheriff Rhys Chatham]

I never understood time signatures like 7/4 and 6/3, can't the y be broken down 4/4. Doesn't it just have to do with the musical notation?

[Everyneurotic]

Originally Posted by pbradley

No shit, but treating it like math is what I dislike. Something to be quantified, equations to be considered. Music makes math human, but math should not make music inhuman.

i meant in principle.

notation and composition is all math, i had a friend in high school who was headed for m.i.t. to study physics and one day he caught me doing chord charts and he told me "dude, that shit is complicated".

but i agree, it's like the rock critic wankers in the 70's who would explain the importance and appeal of genesis and the like by explaining how complicated their compositions were, like giving you reasons why you should like them.

[ZEROpumpkins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham

I never understood time signatures like 7/4 and 6/3, can't the y be broken down 4/4. Doesn't it just have to do with the musical notation?

Yeah it's to do with where the accent is placed. Time sigs aren't like fractions, that confuses a lot of people.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

i meant in principle.

And I meant as a consideration in the production and appreciation of music.

[ZEROpumpkins]

 

[Everyneurotic]

well, if you are going to play music, then, even even unconsciously, you have to consider math in it's production.

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkin

 

hahahahahahahahaa.

[pbradley]

Then let my conscious mind not have to consider it. *skronks*

[ZEROpumpkins]

I'll skronk you

[atsonicpark]

this thread is ridiculous.