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Originally Posted by This Is Not Here

Most cases of schizophrenic behaviour due to smoking cannabis takes place when that person is already schizophrenic, the drug just makes it worse. I don't think cannabis is a clever thing to do whatsoever, however I do feel its a convienient scapegoat for a highly complex mental condition, all cases of mental illness and severe depression are a result of numerous external and internal factors, not just drug consumption.

well no the studies don't say that.

still, a matter of risk is no cause for criminalization

we take lots of risks in our lives-- i don't want my life in the hands of an overprotective government nanny

[jonathan]

I don't know anyone that has gotten any mental illness derived from excessive pot usage anyone who has had latent schizophrenia and pot has triggered their psychosis. From my own personal experience, pot appears to be one of the safest drugs out there. I have known people that have been smoking grass upwards of thirty years and have never experienced a problem and are fully functional members of society.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by jonathan

I don't know anyone that has gotten any mental illness derived from excessive pot usage anyone who has had latent schizophrenia and pot has triggered their psychosis. From my own personal experience, pot appears to be one of the safest drugs out there. I have known people that have been smoking grass upwards of thirty years and have never experienced a problem and are fully functional members of society.

nonsense. your subjective experience doesn't trump a scientific study. i know plenty of crazed potheads. but still-- and this is the point-- criminalization does nothing to help the problem. NOTHING.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

well no the studies don't say that.

still, a matter of risk is no cause of criminalization

we take lots of risks in our lives-- i don't want my life in the hands of an overprotective government nanny

Also, the schizophrenia in those cases is triggered by using vast amounts of the drug for a prolonged period of time. The same way as when you will end up chronically depressed if your alcohol usage spirals out of control.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

i am just against people smoking too much of it. I have had two of my friends develop schizophrenia from smoking too much weed, one is now dead.

So there is something to this "reefer madness"!!!

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Also, the schizophrenia in those cases is triggered by using vast amounts of the drug for a prolonged period of time. The same way as when you will end up chronically depressed if your alcohol usage spirals out of control.

yes.

and by the way, you can die from drinking water.

[Everyneurotic]

when are the potheads coming here?

[pbradley]

What if I smoke to calm the anxiety of developing schizophrenia?

 

[gmku]

Legalizing pot really would solve a lot of problems. For one thing, there's less allure to something that's legal, especially among teens. In theory, then, fewer people might be attracted to the idea of smoking pot.

In addition, it takes an enormous load off the justice/prison system, affording more resources for far more serious matters.

And it provides another tax revenue source for the government, and opens the way for better investigation of medical uses.

[Everyneurotic]

Originally Posted by gmku

Legalizing pot really would solve a lot of problems. For one thing, there's less allure to something that's legal, especially among teens. In theory, then, fewer people might be attracted to the idea of smoking pot.

In addition, it takes an enormous load off the justice/prison system, affording more resources for far more serious matters.

And it provides another tax revenue source for the government, and opens the way for better investigation of medical uses.

yeah.

it would also be wonderful to have coffee that tasted as great as it smelled and that we could all fly.

Originally Posted by pbradley

What if I smoke to calm the anxiety of developing schizophrenia?

 

You'd be dosing what you're taking, the same way as when you take the prescribed dose of any kind of medication that your GP advised you to. Since you are self-medicating umonitored, the risk is that you overdo it or don't do enough.

[batreleaser]

its hard to believe amphetamines and cocaine are class b, many opiates class c and d, but grass is class a. ridiculous.

[jonathan]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

nonsese. your subjective experience doesn't trump a scientific study. i know plenty of crazed potheads. but still-- and this is the point-- criminalization does nothing to help the problem. NOTHING.

scientific studies can be used to prove anything. There are just as many scientific studies out there supporting both sides of any argument. I've seen studies saying that pot doesn't cause lung cancer, just as I've seen studies that one joint has four times as many carcinogeons as a cigarette. I haven't looked into this one, but I can assure you I can find studies to support both sides of this.

with that said, my subjective experience is starting to sound pretty good.

[batreleaser]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

yeah.

it would also be wonderful to have coffee that tasted as great as it smelled and that we could all fly.

hahahaha

[pbradley]

Fortunately I don't smoke often, nor do I fear schizophrenia (ha ha, though weird occurrences inspire fear from time to time).

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by jonathan

scientific studies can be used to prove anything.

that's not science.

[NWRA]

I know at least ten people who have smoked it regularly for ten years or more, and nearly all of them are agoraphobic, very lazy, have a terrible memory, and the intelligence and sense of humour of a stupid toddler (wearing-a hat-with-a-propeller-on-and-dribbling-stupid): which is the opposite to how they were nine years ago (which is why I know them in the first place). Now they're just tree-stumps, and will never get better. I do think it needs to be reclassified as Class B so that possessing it is taken seriously rather than remaining a kind of 'tut tut' non-crime like bicycling on the path.

[fugazifan]

Originally Posted by _slavo_

No no, I try to avoid it. I smoked pot like 5 times in past 5 years.

but you still have smoked pot, so isnt it better that you had the choice to smoke and decided that you do not want to than having the government decide what is good for you?
sniffing glue and inhaling airconditioner gas is not healthy but it is legal. and SSK-no i do not belive that it is the governments job to make laws. it is their job to obtain order, but not to dictate our day to day lives.
i am lactose intolorent but the government shouldnt tell me when i can and cant have milk. (i know thats a bad excample....)

[fugazifan]

in addition to un criminalizjing pot the US should lower the drinking age and make alchahol more accesable. it is obsurd the frenzy that americans get into over booze and how uncontrolable drinking can be. where as in a lot of countries where the dinking age is lower and booze can be bought pretty easily, it is much less a big deal




(im sure that somehow connects to the conversation)

[Toilet & Bowels]

i don't think the government's decision to reclassify cannabis had anything to do with the police or what scientific studies have shown, i think i'm right in saying cannabis use is on the decline in the uk, and the way i see things is that cannabis was reclassified for political reasons, this is a reactionary decision by a weak labour party who want to impress swing voters who voted conservative in last week's local elections.