[atsonicpark]

Haha.

There are enthusiastic LIARS fans? Must be some lame ass people.

"Man, I just love that part when he chants BLOOD! a thousand times. So meaningful. How about that part in the song with the time-stretched fart sound repeated 300 times? Golden. Geniuses! 'Gas! Fumes! Will burn us! In our bedrooms!' Man, he is a fucking poet. What a great band. See, they're liars, right? They change their sound a lot! They lie! You never know what to expect! Except that it's always going to be really boring and have some idiot chanting through a phone line! Also, why do they have a drum worship album when their drummer is TERRIBLE? Anyway.. Liars! They're crazy and uh no wave cuz they don't know how to play their instruments! Except on that first album when they had really talented members who all left because they realized that band isn't very good! Anyway.. LIARS!"

[Dead-Air]

Originally Posted by pbradley

What I'm saying is that "influenced by No Wave" shouldn't have been included at all. Who gives a fuck?

Not me particularly, though it is interesting in the case of Sonic Youth to learn their roots and pursue the awesome groups that influenced them, No Wave and otherwise.

However, if this had just been a documentary about No Wave, then it need not have made a desperate and clueless search for NYC bands following the "tradition" because it would have got that there could be no tradition. If it had just wanted to be a Then and Now about NYC bands, it should have started with a broad base of NYC groups rather than focusing specifically on No Wave. Either way the end result was a poor compromise.

[atsonicpark]

kill your idols sucks dick.

[This Is Not Here]

Look I dig Liars alot and I'll happily admit that, they're the only contempary act on this program I don't think are shit (accept Black Dice, who I like but aren't overly familiar with), and also if you ARE GOING to try to tediously link modern bands back to the No Wave scene then Liars are a somewhat more understandable choice then the Yeah Yeah Fucking Yeahs. But the whole idea of No Wave was this is was self-destructive, self-imploding reductionist music that when it ended, it properly burnt out and dissapeared, it's seems to contradict the No Wave attitude (or lack of, being a nihilistic scene) that anything could musically evolove from it.

[atsonicpark]

I just have never seen a documentary get so completely awful and boring after such a great first 20 minutes. It was mindboggling.

[This Is Not Here]

I'm inclined to agree with you there.

[batreleaser]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Haha. I like batreleaser's posting style. Seems very stream-of-conscious yet focused. Like a Dennis Leary type.. never stops to take a breath or relax. Very interesting.

that's how i am in person too. i spit my opinions fast, with wit, and conviction. i am not writing essays here, so ill type and type and type and type all i fucking want. when im in school i have to worry about paragrapgs and sentendce firnatuion and spkefmling aand shtit kilha thathjs. so here, i type as i think pretty much, very similar to how i would speak normally.

[batreleaser]

It figures that Pitchfork would post this documentary, like they're trying to prove the scene they nurtured will have historical significane in the rock n roll canon some day. It probably will anyways, but shit, talk about self promotion.

[atsonicpark]

Right on. I like that some people on here have very different posting styles. E-personality ohhh!

Anyway, kill your idols sucks. End of thread.

 

[uhler]

it sucked just like it did when i watched it two years ago.

[Decayed Rhapsody]

This kid likes it.