[fishmonkey]

Originally Posted by Danny Himself

I like to see fat aryan children get sucked into giant tubes. So sue me.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a great film. Go and listen to RATM.

it is a classic flick alright, a bit spooky but a classic none the less... dont get me started on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

"lick a snozberry tastes like a snozberry"

[Hip Priest]

Originally Posted by Daycare Nation

So, I'd like to share my opinion that Willie Wonka is an evil capitalist propaganda film intended to brainwash children into being good citizens.

Quite the reverse, in fact.

Willy Wonka is a wake-up call to reds everywhere, a call to reject socialism and move to a mor elibertarian ideal. It's a tale of the 'little man' (ably represented by the use of children) and his unquestioning loyalty to his 'leader', in this case Mr Wonka. Kept poor whilst listening to how lucky he is to have his leader, the little man is placated by small concessions and the promise that his life might be changed by having closer contact and more gifts from the leader. There are warning signs everywhere, such as the the oompa loompas (who show that in a socialist society there are no such thing as individuals, merely armies of the indistinct proletariat who are there to follow the state). There is no chance that the little man will ever have a real say, no chance that he will ever improve his lot, other than the vague promise of more treats for being good ie toeing the party line. However, the warnings are ignored and trust continues to be placed in the power-crazed leader until the bitter end.

[afterthefact]

When I read Daycare's post, I totally agreed. Then I read kingcoffee's post, and I totally agreed. I'm so confused now, I don't know what to think about anything...

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by wax

the book was written by roald dahl. he didnt really like children too much apparantly, at least not spoilt children and little fuckers with no discipline.
all his books involved children getting mistreated in some way. either nice children with bad parents who win in the end or bad children who end up as they do in the film.
the story is making the point of too many stupid spoilt brats with shitty parents who let them get away with murder, which dahl hated, and so do i for that matter. the good kid always wins in the end..not like real life where the good kids get stomped and the bad kids get to go around treating everyone like shit and get away with it.
who doesnt hate horrible little brats? he was probably trying to influence kids to behave better, which i can see nothing wrong with.
the book was wrote in the 60's or 70's i think, and now walk around a town or city in england and see the little fuckers with no respect for anyone or anything. id send em to wonkas factory and have turned into big blueberrys!

it's true. remember the twits?

[wax]

matilda, the witches, georges marvelous medicene?

maybe not all his books are about this kind of stuff, but the best ones are.

[Daycare Nation]

Try as you may to succeed in life...you will only be lining the pocket book of Mr. Wonka. He owns your asses. Don't forget it.

[not_alone]

um.....i love roald dahls books. i guess i never thought about the movie having a deeper meaning.....um.......... i guess im close minded, but i did love daycare nation's point of view on the movie. very well thought out