Lemonade - fizzy or flat?

truncated · 04.12.2006, 08:51 PM

I'm in the midst of a debate with someone over "ade" beverages (really in the midst, we're arguing this over the phone).

This person, a UK resident, claims that we Americans are misusing the word "lemonade," because "ade" inherently means carbonation in a fruit drink.

I say, he is full of shit. He is British. He eats things called "crumpets," does not find black pudding grotesque, and does not have access to Cherry Pepsi. He has two separate faucets in his bathroom for the hot & cold water. His local colleges have Cadbury's vending machines (I know, I ate myself sick out of one of them once). He drinks Irn Bru. In short, he's just plain fuckin' weird.

So what's the story? Are things like Orangeade and Cherryade brand names, or actual terms for a beverage?

RIPfrey05 · 04.12.2006, 08:53 PM

Limeaids!

Alex's Trip · 04.12.2006, 08:54 PM

I dislike lemonade. And I don't think that 'ade' means that it carbonated.

atari 2600 · 04.12.2006, 08:57 PM

I always thought "ade" just specified a cool, refreshing beverage that is usually fruit juice-based. At least that's what I know from crossword puzzles.

Just wondering if you gave him the crossword puzzle evidence.

Lemonade is good stuff.

EMMAh · 04.12.2006, 09:08 PM

I like both of them

Alex's Trip · 04.12.2006, 09:12 PM

http://www.answers.com/-ade&r=67

Пятхъдесят Шест · 04.12.2006, 09:14 PM

I just finished off a glass of cherry limeade. Yeah....its great.

Savage Clone · 04.12.2006, 09:19 PM

I have always assumed it to be non-carbonated.
I also kinda hate carbonation.
But I love Lemonade.

truncated · 04.12.2006, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600

I always thought "ade" just specified a cool, refreshing beverage that is usually fruit juice-based. At least that's what I know from crossword puzzles.

Just wondering if you gave him the crossword puzzle evidence.

Ooh Atari, good thinking

Eat that!

Пятхъдесят Шест · 04.12.2006, 09:22 PM

Wouldn't it say on the pakaging?

Kallisti23chaos · 04.12.2006, 09:26 PM

pink lemonade

noumenal · 04.12.2006, 10:31 PM

OK, having looked at the OED, here's the deal:

The suffix -ade in this context means "The product of an action, and, by extension, that of any process or raw material; as in arcade, colonnade, masquerade, lemonade, marmalade, pomade. " In other words, lemonade is something made from lemons.

Lemonade is defined as "A drink made of lemon-juice and water, sweetened with sugar." And there is a note that says: "In England now very commonly applied to ‘aerated lemonade’, which consists of water impregnated with carbonic acid with the addition of lemon-juice and sugar."

Пятхъдесят Шест · 04.12.2006, 10:36 PM

fascinating

atari 2600 · 04.13.2006, 12:14 AM

well, yeah good point Hip Priest, about "-ade" being a suffix properly. Your point completely disproves truncated's British friend's contention. One Brit (you) has it right although noumenal's post sheds light on why truncated's British friend has grown accustomed to drinking aerated lemonade. But "ade" has also become a noun meaning "cool, refreshing drink" & that's what I was thinking of before I suppose.

noumenal · 04.13.2006, 12:17 AM

Atari, I think you have Hip Priest and me confused, but there are worse people to be confused with...

atari 2600 · 04.13.2006, 12:19 AM

oops, sometimes I don't bother to check back when writing posts.
i did mention you also though...

noumenal · 04.13.2006, 12:21 AM

I'm confused - did Hip Priest post in this thread?

atari 2600 · 04.13.2006, 12:23 AM

haha he didn't post here at all--- i was actually planning to edit that last post haha
i'm stoned & i think i read something good by Hip Priest (
so I had him on the brain
) at some point a few minutes ago & i was trying to find said post & thus did not edit in time in this thread

either that or i was really into the idea of one brit disproving another or something

who knows?

this window is also really minimized right now...

& i'm not even drinking tonight

But this whole misunderstanding gives me a golden opportunity to state that I sincerely wish that people would give me at least a couple of minutes after a post has been made to edit before commenting on any discrepancies or whatever. If there is a mistake, I will almost undoubtedly catch it right after reading it once it's posted. I don't deliberate over my words a great deal. At least at first. I write, then I post. Then, I go back & change things. It's an odd process I suppose.

I really should just be more careful & guarded I guess.

sonicl · 04.13.2006, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated

He is British. He eats things called "crumpets," does not find black pudding grotesque, and does not have access to Cherry Pepsi.

We may not have access to Cherry Pepsi, but we do have Pepsi-cino. Yeah, that's right, coffee flavoured Pepsi. WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF STUPID IDEA IS THAT????????

noumenal · 04.13.2006, 01:14 AM

Hey no prob Atari. I've been caught myself a few times - I'll edit a post and then after I've edited it, I'll notice that someone has already responded to my pre-edit post. It's just so easy to edit stuff on here.

04.12.2006, 08:51 PM	#1
truncated invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,607	I'm in the midst of a debate with someone over "ade" beverages (really in the midst, we're arguing this over the phone). This person, a UK resident, claims that we Americans are misusing the word "lemonade," because "ade" inherently means carbonation in a fruit drink. I say, he is full of shit. He is British. He eats things called "crumpets," does not find black pudding grotesque, and does not have access to Cherry Pepsi. He has two separate faucets in his bathroom for the hot & cold water. His local colleges have Cadbury's vending machines (I know, I ate myself sick out of one of them once). He drinks Irn Bru. In short, he's just plain fuckin' weird. So what's the story? Are things like Orangeade and Cherryade brand names, or actual terms for a beverage?
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Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	I dislike lemonade. And I don't think that 'ade' means that it carbonated. __________________ KALOPSIA
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atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	I always thought "ade" just specified a cool, refreshing beverage that is usually fruit juice-based. At least that's what I know from crossword puzzles. Just wondering if you gave him the crossword puzzle evidence. Lemonade is good stuff.
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EMMAh invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,433	I like both of them __________________
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Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	http://www.answers.com/-ade&r=67 __________________ KALOPSIA
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04.12.2006, 09:14 PM	#7
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	I just finished off a glass of cherry limeade. Yeah....its great.
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04.12.2006, 09:19 PM	#8
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,286	I have always assumed it to be non-carbonated. I also kinda hate carbonation. But I love Lemonade.
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04.12.2006, 09:22 PM	#10
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	Wouldn't it say on the pakaging?
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04.12.2006, 09:26 PM	#11
Kallisti23chaos children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Akron,Ohio Posts: 310	pink lemonade __________________ "Every Man And Every Woman Is A Star "
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04.12.2006, 10:31 PM	#12
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	OK, having looked at the OED, here's the deal: The suffix -ade in this context means "The product of an action, and, by extension, that of any process or raw material; as in arcade, colonnade, masquerade, lemonade, marmalade, pomade. " In other words, lemonade is something made from lemons. Lemonade is defined as "A drink made of lemon-juice and water, sweetened with sugar." And there is a note that says: "In England now very commonly applied to ‘aerated lemonade’, which consists of water impregnated with carbonic acid with the addition of lemon-juice and sugar."
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04.12.2006, 10:36 PM	#13
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	fascinating
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04.13.2006, 12:14 AM	#14
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	well, yeah good point Hip Priest, about "-ade" being a suffix properly. Your point completely disproves truncated's British friend's contention. One Brit (you) has it right although noumenal's post sheds light on why truncated's British friend has grown accustomed to drinking aerated lemonade. But "ade" has also become a noun meaning "cool, refreshing drink" & that's what I was thinking of before I suppose.
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04.13.2006, 12:17 AM	#15
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Atari, I think you have Hip Priest and me confused, but there are worse people to be confused with...
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04.13.2006, 12:19 AM	#16
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	oops, sometimes I don't bother to check back when writing posts. i did mention you also though...
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04.13.2006, 12:21 AM	#17
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	I'm confused - did Hip Priest post in this thread?
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04.13.2006, 12:23 AM	#18
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	haha he didn't post here at all--- i was actually planning to edit that last post haha i'm stoned & i think i read something good by Hip Priest ( so I had him on the brain ) at some point a few minutes ago & i was trying to find said post & thus did not edit in time in this thread either that or i was really into the idea of one brit disproving another or something who knows? this window is also really minimized right now... & i'm not even drinking tonight But this whole misunderstanding gives me a golden opportunity to state that I sincerely wish that people would give me at least a couple of minutes after a post has been made to edit before commenting on any discrepancies or whatever. If there is a mistake, I will almost undoubtedly catch it right after reading it once it's posted. I don't deliberate over my words a great deal. At least at first. I write, then I post. Then, I go back & change things. It's an odd process I suppose. I really should just be more careful & guarded I guess.
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04.13.2006, 01:14 AM	#20
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Hey no prob Atari. I've been caught myself a few times - I'll edit a post and then after I've edited it, I'll notice that someone has already responded to my pre-edit post. It's just so easy to edit stuff on here.
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