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LifeDistortion · 04.05.2011, 10:32 PM

If Whedon gets to have relative creative freedom to the The Avengers where he wants to I think it'll be amazing. The only time things turn out crappy for Whedon is when he doesn't get creative control of his work. Even if its bad it will probobly still be far better then the Fantasic Four and X-Men movies combined.

!@#$%! · 04.06.2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion

If Whedon gets to have relative creative freedom to the The Advengers where he wants to I think it'll be amazing. The only time things turn out crappy for Whedon is when he doesn't get creative control of his work. Even if its bad it will probobly still be far better then the Fantasic Four and X-Men movies combined.

wait man, X2 kicked fucking ass! that skews the average completely.

i think dollhouse improved because of the boundaries placed upon him though-- it was kinda slow at first.

@cars: summer glau is fuckin AWESOME! maybe too good for the masses but she's fucking great. only reason i watched sarah connor chronicles was her. well ok the mom was kinda hot too.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 04.10.2011, 04:33 AM

Took a brief Buffy break after season 3. What a season that was. Great finale, and the prom episode had me feeling as if I had breasts, and a lust for dark chocolates. That was so sweet how they made Buffy that award for being class protector, and then Angel showing up; my sockets swelled.

Watched a few episodes of Angel. That was pretty cool too. I like how Angel is somewhat of a Batman-like figure. That's cool.

Season 4 of Buffy is, of course, a big change from previous seasons, given it being the college years, and all. I appreciate that Whedon was able to smoothly adjust the show's premise post-high school. It seems like he's having a lot of fun with the writing this season, and why shouldn't he? The show's now presented in Widescreen!

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 04.30.2011, 03:47 PM

Buffy Ssn 5

*spoilers ahead*

Funny how Buffy has a sister now, I'm not too far in this one yet (my gf now insists I watch it with her, which definitely hinders my progress). I'm sure there's gonna be some really clever explanation for this. Hmmmm...

NO SPOILERS PLZ

Anyhow, I also started watching Dollhouse. Pretty neat.

Still collecting Whedon comics too, when I'm finally able to start reading 'em all, I'll have a treasure chest for sure.

nicfit · 04.30.2011, 04:33 PM

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Anyhow, I also started watching Dollhouse. Pretty neat.

It's kinda mixed, some episodes are "eeeh, kinda good", but others, daaaamn, are stellar, thanks to some dialogues and the actors' (I won't say the names, but you'll get who I mean later in the season/s) performances.

no spoilers.

what do you think of Buffy S4 overall?

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 04.30.2011, 05:19 PM

I liked it a lot, but it was a bit more hit and miss than prior seasons. When it worked though, it really worked. It seems like Joss was having a lot of fun taking risks with the writing. Just playing around with the format, and seeing what he could get away with. Like the "silent" episode, BUFFY WANT BEER!, Giles singing all the time, or the trippy dream episode finale.

The episodes with Oz and the female Werewolf were great. That was really cool. I'm a big fan of werewolves. Willow's hinted lesbianism became reality, which was cleverly done... but could her new lover be any blander? I guess that's the intention though, I don't think she even has a title credit.

Demon Giles was funny. Spike and Xander had some of their best one-liners. The humor was in full force. The Initiative story was interesting, but I think Adam was a pretty lame villain. Riley is also less interesting than Angel, of course.

The first three seasons were amazing though. Season 4 was almost on par, but not quite. I'm definitely becoming a Whedon fanatic!

LifeDistortion · 04.30.2011, 07:11 PM

Whedon always tends to introduce characters and always seems like they weren't meant to last very long, but then end up becoming major characters. Spike was never meant to be a major character on the show, but he grew and developed. Same with Faith, she was only supposed to last a few episodes, but her character grew as the series grew. So yes, many characters when they start out seem rather expendable, but over time they develop and become more interesting. As for the sister, that was how Whedon wanted to introduce her, to the viewer she just appeared out of thin air but to the characters it was like she was always there. Good explaination or not it will make some kind of sense as season 5 goes on.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 04.30.2011, 07:26 PM

I guess I'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 05.17.2011, 11:14 AM

*possible spoilers for Buffy fans*

Ok, so I'm decently well into the 6th season of Buffy now. Somewhere after the musical episode, Once More with Feeling (which I unexpectedly loved), Giles has left for the 2nd time (buzz kill), Willow is becoming overpowered by magic after losing her gf, and Spike and undead Buffy are slamming eachother into walls and shit, making out, and riding Spike's vampiric cock while standing (pretty edgy for Network tv eh?).

Season 5 was an odd one. I did like the whole Dawn subplot with Glory and all, but that didn't really kick in properly 'till halfway through the season. The first chunk of episodes were actually pretty uneventful.

But I've gotta say I'm still eagerly awaiting the next episode, and there's only one televised season left to go after the one I'm on - which is more than I could say about the later seasons of my beloved X-Files.

My big question now - Now that Buffy has died again (at the end of ssn 5), just where is the new Slayer? Is there not a new one because of Faith? Will I find out soon enough?

NO SPOILERRS PLZ (as usual)

LifeDistortion · 05.17.2011, 01:00 PM

Pretty much how it works. Faith is THE active slayer. They kind of explain it when Faith first arrives back in season 3, but then don't get too much into it. I think if I'm not mistaken though in the last season they do talk about how the fact that there are now two living slayers it has caused a kind of chaos. I won't get too into that, I'm not even sure I can recall exactly how its explained.

Dead-Air · 05.22.2011, 04:20 PM

Can't stand anything he's done except for Firefly, which was entirely based on the Traveller RPG with just a little Star Wars thrown in, so what's not to love, but the horrible junk science (all the planets in one solar system with sunny desert like conditions in the "outer planets" OMG that's stoopid!)

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 05.22.2011, 06:11 PM

He's brilliant.

SpaceCadetHayden · 05.24.2011, 11:55 PM

Woah. How'd I miss a fucking Joss Whedon thread? I'm watching Firefly right now actually. I'm a huge fanboy.
Dollhouse and Firefly are probably tied for my favorite television series. His writing just keeps getting better with each series. His characters, like River, Echo, and Alpha, are phenomenal. Just incredible writing.
I'm not the biggest Buffy fan, though.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 06.25.2011, 06:20 PM

Just started Buffy season 7 the other night, and call me crazy - but I almost feel as if this might be the best season since the third. Maybe not, but it's starting off really strong.

*once again no spoilerz plz*

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 07.21.2011, 05:16 PM

Actually finished Buffy not too long ago. Now I'm reading Season 8, so far I only have issues 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 16.

I got so interested in collecting the pre-Season 8 comics, and the Fray mini-series that I completely forgot just how close I was to finishing the series.

My favorite seasons in order (off the top of my head)...

3, 2, 1, 7, 5, 4, 6

Definitely the best show I've ever seen. I've never seen a show with such a bizarre (and macabre) concept, so much pop-icon glisten, that delivered so boldly in Action, Horror, Comedy, and even Romance.

Sooooo many memorable moments, and characters - I've never wanted to live in a fictional universe so badly in my life.

Watching Firefly, and Angel now.

Rock on Joss.

LifeDistortion · 07.21.2011, 05:25 PM

His long completed horror film he co-wrote with fellow "Angel" writer Drew Goddard "Cabin in the Woods" just finally got a release date of April 13, 2012. Apparently its coming out just a mere three weeks before "The Avengers" is coming out. Frankly, I think I'm more excited for "Cabin in the Woods".

nicfit · 07.21.2011, 05:31 PM

I'd never thought you'd rank S01 that high!

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 07.21.2011, 08:43 PM

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His long completed horror film he co-wrote with fellow "Angel" writer Drew Goddard "Cabin in the Woods" just finally got a release date of April 13, 2012. Apparently its coming out just a mere three weeks before "The Avengers" is coming out. Frankly, I think I'm more excited for "Cabin in the Woods".

I'm definitely more pumped for Cabin in the Woods. I've been reading up on it, nice to know there's actually a release date now.

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I'd never thought you'd rank S01 that high!

The first thing that I fell in love with about the show was the initial concept of a high school sweetheart hunting, and killing vampires; and season 1 represents that in its rawest form. It reminds me of the X-Files season 1 in how it's more episodical than the later seasons, and doesn't take itself too seriously.

Honestly, I'm surprised at how much I enjoyed Season 7. I totally didn't see that coming.

!@#$%! · 07.22.2011, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

Actually finished Buffy not too long ago. Now I'm reading Season 8, so far I only have issues 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 16.

I got so interested in collecting the pre-Season 8 comics, and the Fray mini-series that I completely forgot just how close I was to finishing the series.

My favorite seasons in order (off the top of my head)...

3, 2, 1, 7, 5, 4, 6

Definitely the best show I've ever seen. I've never seen a show with such a bizarre (and macabre) concept, so much pop-icon glisten, that delivered so boldly in Action, Horror, Comedy, and even Romance.

Sooooo many memorable moments, and characters - I've never wanted to live in a fictional universe so badly in my life.

Watching Firefly, and Angel now.

Rock on Joss.

YES

i am an enemy of ratings but your ranking is a good one. in season 7 nathan fillion was awesome-- his performance carried a lot of the show when other areas were lacking. season 4 sucked and riley was a cardboard square jawed suck, 6 it wasn't cool to see buffy degrade herself like that hm no sorry. but season 6 resurrected & despondent is still better than that college frankenstein lab & all those shit episodes and the dude sucked.

alright bye.

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ps dawn sucks hairy kiwis, why didn't glory kill her why why why?

nicfit · 07.22.2011, 02:52 AM

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ps dawn sucks hairy kiwis, why didn't glory kill her why why why?

To get to (don't click if you don't want a "minispoiler") this ?

04.05.2011, 10:32 PM	#101
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	If Whedon gets to have relative creative freedom to the The Avengers where he wants to I think it'll be amazing. The only time things turn out crappy for Whedon is when he doesn't get creative control of his work. Even if its bad it will probobly still be far better then the Fantasic Four and X-Men movies combined.
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04.10.2011, 04:33 AM	#103
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	Took a brief Buffy break after season 3. What a season that was. Great finale, and the prom episode had me feeling as if I had breasts, and a lust for dark chocolates. That was so sweet how they made Buffy that award for being class protector, and then Angel showing up; my sockets swelled. Watched a few episodes of Angel. That was pretty cool too. I like how Angel is somewhat of a Batman-like figure. That's cool. Season 4 of Buffy is, of course, a big change from previous seasons, given it being the college years, and all. I appreciate that Whedon was able to smoothly adjust the show's premise post-high school. It seems like he's having a lot of fun with the writing this season, and why shouldn't he? The show's now presented in Widescreen!
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04.30.2011, 03:47 PM	#104
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	Buffy Ssn 5 spoilers ahead Funny how Buffy has a sister now, I'm not too far in this one yet (my gf now insists I watch it with her, which definitely hinders my progress). I'm sure there's gonna be some really clever explanation for this. Hmmmm... NO SPOILERS PLZ Anyhow, I also started watching Dollhouse. Pretty neat. Still collecting Whedon comics too, when I'm finally able to start reading 'em all, I'll have a treasure chest for sure.
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04.30.2011, 05:19 PM	#106
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	I liked it a lot, but it was a bit more hit and miss than prior seasons. When it worked though, it really worked. It seems like Joss was having a lot of fun taking risks with the writing. Just playing around with the format, and seeing what he could get away with. Like the "silent" episode, BUFFY WANT BEER!, Giles singing all the time, or the trippy dream episode finale. The episodes with Oz and the female Werewolf were great. That was really cool. I'm a big fan of werewolves. Willow's hinted lesbianism became reality, which was cleverly done... but could her new lover be any blander? I guess that's the intention though, I don't think she even has a title credit. Demon Giles was funny. Spike and Xander had some of their best one-liners. The humor was in full force. The Initiative story was interesting, but I think Adam was a pretty lame villain. Riley is also less interesting than Angel, of course. The first three seasons were amazing though. Season 4 was almost on par, but not quite. I'm definitely becoming a Whedon fanatic!
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04.30.2011, 07:11 PM	#107
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	Whedon always tends to introduce characters and always seems like they weren't meant to last very long, but then end up becoming major characters. Spike was never meant to be a major character on the show, but he grew and developed. Same with Faith, she was only supposed to last a few episodes, but her character grew as the series grew. So yes, many characters when they start out seem rather expendable, but over time they develop and become more interesting. As for the sister, that was how Whedon wanted to introduce her, to the viewer she just appeared out of thin air but to the characters it was like she was always there. Good explaination or not it will make some kind of sense as season 5 goes on.
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04.30.2011, 07:26 PM	#108
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	I guess I'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
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05.17.2011, 11:14 AM	#109
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	*possible spoilers for Buffy fans* Ok, so I'm decently well into the 6th season of Buffy now. Somewhere after the musical episode, Once More with Feeling (which I unexpectedly loved), Giles has left for the 2nd time (buzz kill), Willow is becoming overpowered by magic after losing her gf, and Spike and undead Buffy are slamming eachother into walls and shit, making out, and riding Spike's vampiric cock while standing (pretty edgy for Network tv eh?). Season 5 was an odd one. I did like the whole Dawn subplot with Glory and all, but that didn't really kick in properly 'till halfway through the season. The first chunk of episodes were actually pretty uneventful. But I've gotta say I'm still eagerly awaiting the next episode, and there's only one televised season left to go after the one I'm on - which is more than I could say about the later seasons of my beloved X-Files. My big question now - Now that Buffy has died again (at the end of ssn 5), just where is the new Slayer? Is there not a new one because of Faith? Will I find out soon enough? NO SPOILERRS PLZ (as usual)
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05.17.2011, 01:00 PM	#110
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	Pretty much how it works. Faith is THE active slayer. They kind of explain it when Faith first arrives back in season 3, but then don't get too much into it. I think if I'm not mistaken though in the last season they do talk about how the fact that there are now two living slayers it has caused a kind of chaos. I won't get too into that, I'm not even sure I can recall exactly how its explained.
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05.22.2011, 04:20 PM	#111
Dead-Air invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portland OR Posts: 4,300	Can't stand anything he's done except for Firefly, which was entirely based on the Traveller RPG with just a little Star Wars thrown in, so what's not to love, but the horrible junk science (all the planets in one solar system with sunny desert like conditions in the "outer planets" OMG that's stoopid!) __________________ FuckBook; My Band; My Radio Show; My Flickr Page; Science Fiction Message Board
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05.22.2011, 06:11 PM	#112
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	He's brilliant.
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05.24.2011, 11:55 PM	#113
SpaceCadetHayden the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: the void of civilization Posts: 988	Woah. How'd I miss a fucking Joss Whedon thread? I'm watching Firefly right now actually. I'm a huge fanboy. Dollhouse and Firefly are probably tied for my favorite television series. His writing just keeps getting better with each series. His characters, like River, Echo, and Alpha, are phenomenal. Just incredible writing. I'm not the biggest Buffy fan, though. __________________
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06.25.2011, 06:20 PM	#114
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	Just started Buffy season 7 the other night, and call me crazy - but I almost feel as if this might be the best season since the third. Maybe not, but it's starting off really strong. once again no spoilerz plz
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07.21.2011, 05:16 PM	#115
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,570	Actually finished Buffy not too long ago. Now I'm reading Season 8, so far I only have issues 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 16. I got so interested in collecting the pre-Season 8 comics, and the Fray mini-series that I completely forgot just how close I was to finishing the series. My favorite seasons in order (off the top of my head)... 3, 2, 1, 7, 5, 4, 6 Definitely the best show I've ever seen. I've never seen a show with such a bizarre (and macabre) concept, so much pop-icon glisten, that delivered so boldly in Action, Horror, Comedy, and even Romance. Sooooo many memorable moments, and characters - I've never wanted to live in a fictional universe so badly in my life. Watching Firefly, and Angel now. Rock on Joss.
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07.21.2011, 05:25 PM	#116
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	His long completed horror film he co-wrote with fellow "Angel" writer Drew Goddard "Cabin in the Woods" just finally got a release date of April 13, 2012. Apparently its coming out just a mere three weeks before "The Avengers" is coming out. Frankly, I think I'm more excited for "Cabin in the Woods".
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07.21.2011, 05:31 PM	#117
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	I'd never thought you'd rank S01 that high! __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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