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Old 08.11.2006, 02:51 PM   #21
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I love it like my grandma.
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Old 08.11.2006, 03:02 PM   #22
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Sugar Kane: I sometimes wonder if two or three SY songs would have worked better as instrumentals. THis is one of them. It's still very fine though.
That's funny because Sugar Kane is one of my favorite songs on Dirty.
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Old 08.11.2006, 03:33 PM   #23
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Patchy to say the least. The "Goo" commercial experiment taken too far...but there are great moments on there.
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Old 08.11.2006, 03:35 PM   #24
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Worst SY album.
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Old 08.11.2006, 03:53 PM   #25
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I like it.
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Old 08.11.2006, 03:54 PM   #26
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dirty was a filler album, right along with goo, jetset, and washing machine.
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Old 08.11.2006, 04:33 PM   #27
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i like it.
esspecialy "rehersal" disc.
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Old 08.11.2006, 05:32 PM   #28
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as one who is 21 now and hence has no experience of the time Dirty was released (thank fuck), i love it. On the strip, Theresas sound world, Wish Fulfilment, 100%, Sugar Kane, Chapel hill... why its all lovely stuff.
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Old 08.11.2006, 06:31 PM   #29
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It's certainly not their greatest work. But it is an excellent album. I think it goes to show the huge range of the band. How many bands can create something like 'Dirty' and then make an album like 'NYCG&F'? In many ways its the perfect SY songform album.
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Old 08.11.2006, 07:16 PM   #30
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Butch Vig is now my least favorite person on the planet. He has produced three of the worst albums of all time (Dirty, Jetset, Nevermind). And he's in that awful band Garbage.

Butch Vig, you are now on my "dead to me" list.

you know nothing of production. (regardless...nevermind is brutal)
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Old 08.11.2006, 07:38 PM   #31
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First of all, I love the album just like I love all the Sonic Youth albums.
That being said...
Strangely enough, Genetic & Hendrix Necro are probably better than any song on the album yet were not included on the original release.
I'd rather hear Kim sing Personality Crisis than David Johansen any day of the week. The same goes for Alice Cooper's Is It My Body?

Cantankerous, would you care to comment on just how a "filler album" has such great outtakes?

quick comments & impressions...

100% has cool lyrics & an edgy vocal delivery from Thurston, but the song is a bit grating really except for the outro.

Swimsuit Issue would be much better without the "mean-o" rhyming with "Encino". That's pretty lame.

Theresa's Sound-World hearkens back lyric-wise to Death Valley '69 & Shadow of a Doubt. When I first got diRty, it was a favorite, but not so much anymore.

Drunken Butterfly is much better as a live song than a studio track, but overall, it's too what I'll term "meathead crunchy" for me to laud much praise on it.

Shoot is a brilliant song from start to finish & has one of Sonic Youth's most memorable (if not the most memorable) basslines.

Sugar Kane is pretty damn dopey.

My Wish Fulfillment would be to swap this song for Genetic.

Hendrix Necro should have been on the album's original release instead of Orange Rolls, Angel's Spit.

Youth Against Fascism is indeed the bomb.

Personally, I've always liked the Nic Fit cover a lot.

The outro to On the Strip is virtually never discussed on this forum & it's pretty hot stuff.

Chapel Hill displays probably the most technical guitar work of any Sonic Youth song.

JC is so gorgeous it takes one's breath away.

Purr is a marvelously original love song.

Creme Brulee is a nice counterpoint & way to end the album. The song dynamics are pretty happening & the lyrical images are really good.
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Old 08.11.2006, 08:21 PM   #32
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Worst SY album.

I agree, not only is dirty my most hated SY album, it also one of my most hated albums by any artist.
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Old 08.11.2006, 08:47 PM   #33
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I agree, not only is dirty my most hated SY album, it also one of my most hated albums by any artist.

Well, isn't that special?

Yours is a statement of complete hipster absurdity.

So, you mean to say that Conway Twitty & say, Jim Nabors put out some better material?

...how about Kix or Warrant?

I'll remind you (yet again) that you stated that,
"it (is) also one of my most hated albums by any artist."

C'mon bro, snap out of the trance & give me some feeeedback.
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Old 08.11.2006, 11:05 PM   #34
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great album with a couple of duds.

but worth it for "Theresa's soundworld" alone
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Old 08.11.2006, 11:15 PM   #35
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one of my favorite sy albums.

100% is the best opener- that mad feedback. thurston sounds rad cool, and steve rocks the drum solo. but steve always rocks. i can't really remember if they did this.. back then, i guess, but like with the recent gigs i've listened to, i hate how it is live.

the "encino/mean-o" is kinda cheesy, but otherwise i really love swimsuit issue.

the wish fulfillment demo is almost as good as the album. genetic could easily go in its place, but eh.

songs 11-15 are perfect. it's mostly the flow from on the strip right into chapel hill.

apart from washing machine (my arena is rather genius) dirty has the best b-sides.
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Old 08.11.2006, 11:16 PM   #36
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First of all, I love the album just like I love all the Sonic Youth albums.
That being said...
Strangely enough, Genetic & Hendrix Necro are probably better than any song on the album yet were not included on the original release.
I'd rather hear Kim sing Personality Crisis than David Johansen any day of the week. The same goes for Alice Cooper's Is It My Body?
Cantankerous, would you care to comment on just how a "filler album" has such great outtakes?

The outtakes should have been the ones on the album. I love Hendrix Necro as if it was my own child.
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Old 08.12.2006, 02:44 PM   #37
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Well, isn't that special?

Yours is a statement of complete hipster absurdity.

So, you mean to say that Conway Twitty & say, Jim Nabors put out some better material?

...how about Kix or Warrant?

I'll remind you (yet again) that you stated that,
"it (is) also one of my most hated albums by any artist."

C'mon bro, snap out of the trance & give me some feeeedback.

well I didn't mean that, I should have said it is one of my most hated albums by any artist that I listen to. Hell, I know it is a million time better than stuff by those people you listed or other crappy albums. It's just for some reason I hate it, I just don't know why.
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Old 08.12.2006, 02:47 PM   #38
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"Youth Against Fascism" is easily as annoying to me as "Cherry Pie." More so, as I hold SY in high regard and expect Warrant to be crap.
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Old 08.12.2006, 04:43 PM   #39
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I like it. Here's my breakdown

The Good:
100% - the epitome of a good album opener: it sets the tone of the rest of the album
Thersa's Soundworld - Amazing guitar lines and an earthquake of a breakdown. Probably my favorite.
Drunken Butterfly - I put it here only after seeing it live...a true Kim rocker
Sugar Kane - It's so damn catchy yet above the "annoying" threshold
Youth Against Facism - The lyrics are great...especially the Clarence Thomas reference. The Bush lyric (the president sucks) coincidentially and unintentionally rings true today
Chapel Hill - Fun fun fun
JC - Dark, brooding, and moving...one of my favorite Kim songs
Purr - Another great rocker

The Fair:
Swimsuit Issue - too abrasive for me...not very impressive
Shoot - s'alright...just nothing special
Wish Fulfillment - the chorus just doesn't feel right
On The Strip - see Shoot

The Poor:
Orange Rolls, Angels Spit -
I always skip or exclude this one. It just isn't pleasant to my ears
Nic Fit - Why?

The "I have no fucking idea how to rank this":
Créme Brûlèe - Weird and strange, no musical relevance, but effective as an album closer meaning a complete contrast from the opener but follows from the mood of the rest of the album

I also agree that the B-sides like Genetic and Hendrix Necro would have been great on this album, but at least we have the re-release and CD-burners.
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Old 08.13.2006, 01:21 PM   #40
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Dirty is one of my least favourite SY albums. There are some good tracks but the album is just not good enough all the way through to live op to the standard of SY, and even the best tracks are not as good as the highlights of other albums. It's a good album though and Shoot is a hella kickass song!
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