[!@#$%!]

i personally think bloomberg cares that this country doesn’t end up destroyed at the hands of a degenerate and his stupid followers, and won’t run again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[The Soup Nazi]

 

^ That's Doomsday, you follow.

Trump could stay in power even if he doesn’t win the election. The Constitution allows it.

Opinion by Fareed Zakaria
Columnist
September 24, 2020 at 6:25 p.m. GMT-3

By declining to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, President Trump has agitated many who fear he will refuse to leave office even if he loses the November election — and may even resort to violence. The terrifying reality is that there are also several mechanisms that are legal and constitutional that could enable Trump to stay in office without actually winning the vote.

The system of electing the president is complicated because it was not designed to be directly democratic. The Constitution calls for states to choose the presidential electors, who in turn gather to vote for the president. Over time, states have passed laws that ensured their state’s popular vote for the presidency would determine the electors. But those are laws, not a constitutional obligation.

Now, imagine the scenario during election week: Trump is leading on Nov. 3, but Democratic nominee Joe Biden gains ground in the days following. Republicans file objections to tens of thousands of mail-in ballots. Democrats file countersuits. Taking account of the confusion, legislatures decide to choose the electors themselves.

Here’s the worry. Of the nine swing states, eight have Republican legislatures. If one or more decide that balloting is chaotic and marred by irregularities, they could send what they regard as the legitimate slate of electors, which would be Republican.

Democrats may object and file lawsuits. In some of those states, Democratic governors or secretaries of state could send their own slates of electors to Washington. That would add to the confusion, but that might well be part of the Republican plan. When Congress convenes on Jan. 6 to tally the electors’ votes, there would be challenges to the legitimacy of some electors. Congressional Republicans would agree that disputed states should not be counted. That would ensure that neither candidate would get to 270 electoral votes.

At that point, the Constitution directs that the House of Representatives vote to determine the presidential election. But it does so with each state casting a single vote. If the current numbers hold, there would be 26 state delegations that are Republican and 23 Democratic (with one tied), so the outcome would be to reelect Trump. Trump does not need to do anything other than accept this outcome, which is constitutional. (Hat tip to Tom Rogers and Tim Wirth for their writings on this topic.)

Trump clearly understands this chain of events. He has been casting doubt on mail-in ballots for months, insisting that the results must be the ones that reflect the tally on election night. He said this week that without mail-in ballots, there would be no worries about a transfer of power because there would simply be a continuation of his rule. He has also acknowledged that “at a certain point, it goes to Congress.”

For this scenario to play out, state Republican parties have to put their desire to win above concerns that all voices are heard. Unfortunately, recent history suggests that most will readily make this trade.

Many state Republican parties have been actively attempting to suppress votes. Just a few examples: In 2011, Texas passed a law requiring a government ID for voting, and allowed gun licenses but not student IDs from state universities. Ostensibly, this was to prevent voter fraud, which several studies have shown is largely nonexistent. In 2017, Georgia passed a law blocking voter registrations with minor typos, which mainly affected Black voters. In Florida, the Republican governor and legislature have effectively gutted a state initiative that restored voting rights to more than 1 million former felons, disproportionately Black.

American democracy is getting warped because the Republican Party believes its path to power lies not in getting a majority of the votes but through other means. In 2018, thanks to redistricting, Republicans in Wisconsin, having won about 45 percent of the vote, ended up with almost 65 percent of the seats in the state assembly. They have become used to this kind of situation on the national stage. Since 1992, the Republican presidential candidate has won the popular vote only once — in 2004, in the wake of the country’s worst terrorist attack and with a wartime “rally around the flag” sentiment. Nevertheless, Republicans have held the White House for almost half of those 28 years.

The United States prides itself as the world’s leading democracy. And yet, because of a vague and creaky constitutional process and ferocious partisanship, this November we might put on a display of democratic dysfunction that would rival any banana republic on the planet.

[Skuj]

NYT Trump Tax Return headline!!! Make popcorn. Watch Bytor and Schunk ignore it. "But her emails."

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Skuj

NYT Trump Tax Return headline!!! Make popcorn. Watch Bytor and Schunk ignore it. "But her emails."

"I alone can fix it."

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by Skuj

NYT Trump Tax Return headline!!! Make popcorn. Watch Bytor and Schunk ignore it. "But her emails."

October 7, 2019 (page 381)

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

YES - candidate Trump repeatedly said he would release his Taxes. President Trump has refused to do so. I’m sure this leaves a bad taste in the mouths of some, but it’s NOT A BIG DEAL for the majority who voted for him. Remember, Presidents are not required to release their taxes.

While you’re busy wasting time being galled, have you ever considered this? If private citizen / businessman Donald Trump truly didn’t pay taxes, why didn’t Barack Hussein Obama’s IRS ever audit and bring charges? Hell, it’s how they got Al Capone!

But seriously......Ford, Reagan, Bush-Clinton-Bush, Obama......surely one of these Presidencies would have taken action if taxes weren’t being paid??? You see, there are all sorts of Federally protected ways to handle and use money in such a way to avoid paying taxes or at the very least, to minimize the amount paid. Most of your Billionaires and CEO’s of major companies do this all the time and it’s 100% legal!

Personally, I wish the IRS laws were changed to where big business and Billionaires would be required to pay a more honest tax......but the laws haven’t been changed and so the loopholes will continue to be used.

Before tackling taxes, how about a balanced budget?

Also, DRUDGE has this interesting story this morning.

So you want me to say or call out negative things about our President. Is there something else in the courts that I’m not aware of??? Is another investigation going on???

While I think candidate Trump was masterful at using Twitter to get his message out during the election, often times I wish President Trump would lock his twitter up! I don’t believe he needs to respond to every single thing......but I do see how he can easily turn the tables on such Anti-Trump media reporting.

So skuJ returns with his third post since May.

My stance regarding Trump’s taxes are no different today than they were October last year. If tax fraud or evasion was committed, it was done so under the Obama, Bush and (perhaps) Clinton presidencies??? Nothing was deemed illegal during their terms as President! Most importantly, Presidents aren’t required to release their taxes so I’m unsure if anything can be done with this leaked information???

Lastly, it’s my understanding a BIG BIG BIG story will drop later this week regarding The Clinton’s : )

Will Joe show up at the debate Tuesday?

Former FBI Director Comey to Testify Wednesday

“Mr. Mueller has declined the committee’s invitation to appear to explain his report. He says he doesn’t have enough time to prepare. But I’m going to ask the Department of Justice and Inspector General Horowitz to look at this report that members of Mr. Mueller’s team erased information from their devices.”

 

[The Soup Nazi]

^ As a courtesy to Symbols I won't quote you. But I have one last question for your sorry ass: Forget legal technicalities, WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING VALUES YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

^ As a courtesy to Symbols I won't quote you. But I have one last question for your sorry ass: Forget legal technicalities, WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING VALUES YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT.

Charlie Kirk tweet
“I’m far more interested in the tax returns of a politician who became a multimillionaire than the tax returns of a billionaire who became a politician.”


In 2016 the Biden’s earned roughly $400k

......in 2017-18, the Biden’s earned more than $16.5 million

the TRUTH about “values” is coming!!!

 

 

 

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING VALUES

I guess Soup doesn’t exercise “values” in other threads?

Charlie Kirk tweet

“Can you imagine if the New York Times found $3.5 million in Trump’s tax returns from the wife of the Mayor of Moscow and that that money went to pay prostitutes connected to a human trafficking ring

They would lose their minds!

So why are they ignoring Hunter Biden?”

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

It’s Not A Conflict Of Interest??????

James Woods tweet
“Putin and the woman who sent 3.5 million dollars to #HunterBiden, while his father #JoeBiden was Vice-President of the United States. Follow the stench of filthy money and it leads to a #DirtyBiden every time...”

 

Has anyone seen.....? Human trafficking.....??

 

[Bytor Peltor]

 

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

 

Then show us to prove otherwise and we'll shut up about it.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Then show us to prove otherwise and we'll shut up about it.

It doesn’t work that way! As I’ve stated, President's aren’t required to release their taxes......it’s the law! Congress could have changed the rules at anytime during our lifetimes, but they haven’t and who knows if they ever will? As I’ve stated before in this thread, I wouldn’t mind seeing where an individual must release their taxes before officially becoming a presidential candidate.

It’s sad that you think anyone would want you to “shut up about it.” Just like the Mueller investigation, impeachment and the General Flynn investigation, Trumps taxes are probably another dead end......so bitch and moan all you want and I’ll continue to enjoy my popcorn.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

^ As a courtesy to Symbols

and the rest of the universe!

thank you

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Then show us to prove otherwise and we'll shut up about it.

damn dude, my eyes.

you don’t realize you’re an unwitting henchman, do you?

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

you don’t realize you’re an unwitting henchman, do you?

All of you free minded freethinkers are just opportunities for TRUTH!!!

 

Do you see what I see? Can free minded freethinkers comprehend??

Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750.

Also, one must consider that President Trump has donated each of his yearly Presidential checks to charity (what was soup saying about values?). That’s roughly $1.2 million over three years......how much of a credit/write off does one receive for $1.2 million in donations???


I wonder how much of that $16+ million the Biden’s donated to charity?

[!@#$%!]

is he talking to himself again now?

[EVOLghost]

lol Trump contributes absolute nothing to American society.

[Bytor Peltor]

May 18, 2018 (page 202)

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Symbols, I admire your willingness to wait, it’s all we can do.

All I’m pointing out is so far there is no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded.

Evidently Congress has information that Russia colluded with someone?? Guess what, they probably did.

The question is, who???

President Obama

Hillary Clinton or her campaign

Anyone else??????

All we know so far is there is not one single shred of evidence linking President Trump or his campaign.

****BREAKING NEWS****

Once Congress reveals who colluded—GUESS WHAT—there is no evidence that it had any impact on the election or that Donald Trump won because of it.

Last but not least, as I’ve stated previously in this thread......from my meager understanding of the law......colluding isn’t a crime.

Everyone have a great weekend!

May 18, 2018 (page 203)

Originally Posted by Skuj

And so it goes....on and on and on and on.....in circles.

If Mueller does end his investigation with charges of collusion, I don't know how in the fuck Peltor and millions of others are going to comprehend it. Symbols said it best a few posts ago. We are in the age of Alternative Facts.

May 18, 2018 (page 203)......h8kurdt’s eyes must be sewn shut!

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

So the fact the Mueller has so far charged 19 people and 3 companies is nothing. 3 people have also pleaded guilty relating to the investigation.

Of course there's nothing going on. He's got nothing at all. If you honestly believe Trump knew NOTHING about what was going on you're deluded.

C'mon man, open your eyes and ears.

May 20, 2018 (page 203)......tesla knew!

Originally Posted by tesla69

Yet others noted that the FBI's Russia "investigation" into Trump didn't seem to extend to Hillary Clinton. We would remind readers that her campaign chair, John Podesta, sat on the board of Massachusetts energy company Joule Unlimited, along with senior Russian official Anatoly Chubais and Russian oligarch Ruben Vardanyan – who was appointed by Vladimir Putin to the Russian economic council.
Two months after Podesta joined the board, Joule managed to raise $35 million from Putin’s Kremlin-backed investment fund Rusnano. Podesta transferred 75,000 shares of Joule to his daughter through a shell company using her address.

May 20, 2018 (page 203)......the poo slinger wallows in madness!

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

don’t you dare challenge madness with logic, you soroastrian agent of interplanetary reptilio-fascism

 

Donald Trump Jr. tweet

OMG—JUST DECLASSIFIED:
The Russia hoax was Hillary’s plan, and the Obama-Biden White House was briefed on it.

 

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Evidently Congress has information that Russia colluded with someone?? Guess what, they probably did.

The question is, who???

President Obama

Hillary Clinton or her campaign

Anyone else??????

All we know so far is there is not one single shred of evidence linking President Trump or his campaign.

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Donald Trump Jr. tweet

OMG—JUST DECLASSIFIED:
The Russia hoax was Hillary’s plan, and the Obama-Biden White House was briefed on it.

 

September 7, 2016 - U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI director James Comey and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strozk regarding “U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s approval of a plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private mail server.


May 20, 2018 (page 203)

Originally Posted by Skuj

It's so obvious now where this whole thing is going to end up. Even Ray Charles can see where this is going. The recent headlines and tweet-storms say it all.


1. The Mueller report will be very bad news for Trump.

2. But, Team Trump will say that it was all Obama's fault, because he directed the FBI to set this all up for political reasons.


We can end this whole debate right now, because that is exactly what is going to happen.

I shall bump this post when it happens.


PS. I forgot point 3......

3. Millions upon millions of Trumpists will buy this explanation, hook, line and sinker.

June 20, 2018 (page 212)

Originally Posted by Skuj

So, I see we are still talking about Clinton's fucking emails?

Originally Posted by Skuj

"But her emails".

November 6, 2018 (page 261)

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

RUSH LIMBAUGH UNLEASHED:

- "Hillary Clinton colluded with Russia."
- "Hillary Clinton rigged that election.”
- Joe Biden “can’t fill a phone booth” on the campaign trail
- Bill Clinton, Obama envious & jealous of Trump's crowds

Charlie Kirk tweet

BREAKING:

According to recently declassified intel reports—John Brennan briefed Obama and others about “approval by Hillary Clinton” on a plan to vilify Donald Trump by tying him to Russia & Putin

Obama knew.

This was a hoax from the beginning—where are the indictments?

[tw2113]

Shit...we have 2 more clusterfucks to sit through?

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by tw2113

Shit...we have 2 more clusterfucks to sit through?

Fine by me if Biden makes the Dotard lose it again.

This is nothing. (And stop making false equivalences.) Worry about the election.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Fine by me if Biden makes the Dotard lose it again.

This is nothing. (And stop making false equivalences.) Worry about the election.

And when I say worry about the election, I mean WORRY about THIS.

Jim Thienel, 73, of Waterford, Mich., said that in his view, fraud was inevitable and Mr. Trump was simply refusing to accept any election tainted by it.

“I think what Trump is really saying is that if the election is filled with fraud, which I believe it’s going to be, do you walk out on your role as the president of the United States simply because the Democrats cheated?” said Mr. Thienel, who runs an appliance repair shop.

[...]

Mr. Thienel said that his years as a poll watcher in Detroit convinced him that voter fraud would be widespread this year. “I think it’s far more likely that Democrats will cheat with the absentee and mail-in ballots. I strongly believe that there is nothing the Democrats wouldn’t do to win,” he said.

Like many of Mr. Trump’s supporters, Mr. Thienel was more concerned with the prospect of violence instigated by opponents of the president if he wins.

“I just spent three and a half hours in gun training today because I’m concerned,” he said.

Trump:

Proud Boys: Stand back, stand by.

ETA: The motherfuckers have already added president Apocalypse Fuckface's message to them to their logo.