The Fall - Page 16

chairman of the bored · 05.03.2009, 05:27 PM

i guess the piss taking went under my radar because ive read ridiculous explanations of fall songs in liner notes and whatnot before...so what he said doesnt seem that far from a possible truth...anyways...millie's cobweb eyes etc etc

ni'k · 05.04.2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

there should have been an ending to them, in about 1983

you stupid fuck.

Glice · 05.04.2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chairman of the bored

i guess the piss taking went under my radar because ive read ridiculous explanations of fall songs in liner notes and whatnot before...so what he said doesnt seem that far from a possible truth...anyways...millie's cobweb eyes etc etc

Yeah, I know what you're saying. To be honest, I'm always astonished that Americans 'get' the Fall. They seem incredibly English, incredibly Mancunian even. But, y'know, you can't stop people enjoying things that are better than everything else.

automatic bzooty · 05.04.2009, 02:42 PM

i'm astonished that anyone truly 'gets' the fall, period.

(not that they're even remotely bad or anything, they're just so... well, y'know.)

atsonicpark · 05.05.2009, 07:12 PM

THE COMPLETE PEEL SESSIONS (6 disc set) is the best.

atsonicpark · 05.05.2009, 08:00 PM

Say have you ever have a chance to meet fat Captain Beefheart imitators with zits?

noisereductions · 05.05.2009, 08:28 PM

I like The Fall. I'm not sure that I get them, though.

atsonicpark · 05.05.2009, 08:40 PM

It's just a bunch of simple (but cool as shit) riffs and melodies, repeated over and over and over and over again, with a guy drunkenly talking over top with no rhythm at all and no singing ability, and making noises. That's pretty much every Fall song, give or take. And it's awesome. I will agree, there is something otherworldly about them that's a bit unexplainable. I don't know what makes their music so captivating. I think it's because they're deceptively simple, in a "Pink Flag" kinda way. Sure, the riffs and the chord changes and all that are simple, anyone can play that kinda stuff... but the structures of the song are so brilliant. They usually never go on too long, and when the songs change (if they do) is usually what's most striking. Take a song like "totally wired", when the bass changes up ever so slightly about halfway through the song, it's the most amazing thing ever. Just one slight little bass, uh, "fill", I guess. Or how about "the man whose head expanded" when the entire song slows down suddenly? Just all these amazing little moments. Great lyrics. I dunno. Just a great band.

chairman of the bored · 05.05.2009, 10:01 PM

i pretty much listen to the bass player most of the time im listening to them...maybe thats why i have no idea what me.s is blathering on about

PAULYBEE2656 · 05.06.2009, 10:08 AM

there is nothing to "get" about the fall..........

they are the fall...thats all there is to get about them....

DeadDiscoDildo · 05.06.2009, 11:55 AM

True, totally wired makes alot of sense though, especially for our generation. That's the one song I truly get, becuase to be honest glice nailed it, for my teeny american brain....that alot of it is really english, and I'm not that savvy.

Some songs I think I get well, but I won't dare to try and describe it to a bunch of brits and Atsonicpark.

haha.

Some songs of theirs are unnerving to drive to, kinda like the first time I heard Sy's Evol and was driving and wanted to pull over, in a good way.

That's why I fell....for the fall....because then english scheme came on and was like...happy happy joy joy...haha

the ikara cult · 05.06.2009, 01:15 PM

I got his Autobiography on Monday, its out in paperback for a fiver in HMV. It reads like he's dictating it to you directly from the pub, starting out with a denouncement of the last incarnaation of the band that all quit on tour in America, then describing his childhood and what he did when he left school.
Not revelatory thus far but its enjoyable enough

PAULYBEE2656 · 05.07.2009, 07:46 AM

06.06.2009, 11:58 AM

mp3s for all the gigs at the bottom of this page: http://www.derekerdman.com/fall/fall.htm

JB's, Dudley UK 09/01/1979
Before the Moon Falls
Rowche Rumble
Flat of Angles
Rebellious Jukebox
2nd Dark Age
Stepping Out
Muzorewi's Daughter
Fiery Jack
No Xmas for John Quays
In My Area
A Figure Walks

Anti Club LA, CA 12/14/1979
Psykick Dancehall
Rowche Rumble
Flat of Angles
Rebellious Jukebox
Various Times
Stepping Out
Your Heart Out
Dice Man
Spectre vs. Rector
Choc-Stock
Muzorewi's Daughter
Interview

Electric Ballroom, London 04/17/1980
Intro
English Scheme
Fiery Jack
Totally Wired
City Hobgoblins
Flat of Angles
How I Wrote Elastic Man
Rowche Rumble
Impression of J. Temperance
Your Heart Out
Cary Grant's Wedding
Dice Man
In My Area
Repetition

MES On "Music View" NYC Radio 1981
Interview June 1981

City Gardens, NJ 06/12/1981
Impression of J. Temperance
Deer Park, Leave the Capitol
Fortress / Totally Wired
Hip Priest
2nd Dark Age
Fantastic Life
Lie Dream of a Casino Soul
Fit and Working Again
Jawbone and the Air Rifle
Session Musician
Container Drivers
Middle Mass
Prole Art Threat

Victoria University, NZ 9/8/1982
The Classical
Hard Life In The Country
Mere Pseud Mag. Ed.
Marquis Cha-Cha
Tempo House
Fantastic Life
Middle Mass
Who Makes The Nazis?
I Feel Voxish
Man Whose Head Expanded
Backdrop

Arena, Rotterdam 02/12/1983
Room to Live
Words of Expectation
Wings
Mere Pseud Mag Ed
And This Day
Hexen Definitive-Strife Knot
I Feel Voxish
Ludd Gang
Garden
Kicker Conspiracy
Backdrop

Concord Bar, Brighton 10/27/1983
Hexen Definitive
I Feel Voxish
Pat Trip Dispenser
Mere Pseud Mag Ed
Garden
English Scheme
Words of Expectation
Wings
2 x 4
C.R.E.E.P.
Backdrop
Kicker Conspiracy
Ludd Gang

Madison, Middlesborough 11/01/1983
Words of Expectation
Ludd Gang
Eat Y'self Fitter
2 x 4
Tempo House
Hexen Definitive-Strife Knot
The Man Whose Head Expanded
Wings
Oh Brother
CREEP
Backdrop
Kicker Conspiracy
Mere Pseud Mag Ed

St. Germans, Cornwall 07/29/1984
Smile
Lie Dream of a Casino Soul
C.R.E.E.P.
Elves
Hexen Definitive-Strife Knot / 2 x 4
No Bulbs
Joker Hysterical Face
Lay of the Land
Kicker Conspiracy
Oh! Brother
Totally Wired

Columbus, Ohio 04/01/1985
Copped It
Fortress
Disney's Dream Debased
Couldn't Get Ahead
Elves
Clear Off
2 x 4
Slang King
Barmy
God Box
Wings
Lay of the Land

atsonicpark · 06.06.2009, 08:10 PM

daaaaaaamn

loubarret · 06.07.2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

THE COMPLETE PEEL SESSIONS (6 disc set) is the best.

No. Must own really but Witchtrails or Prevented stay the best for me.

This Is Not Here · 06.07.2009, 10:15 AM

Roll call for the london show on wednesday?

Thor Anders Aase · 06.07.2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chairman of the bored

i pretty much listen to the bass player most of the time im listening to them...maybe thats why i have no idea what me.s is blathering on about

well, I guess the Fall has had about 20 bass-players since 1977...

all great ones then..

PAULYBEE2656 · 06.08.2009, 09:39 AM

no one knows what mark is blathering on about but then how many people really really understand ulysees , not claim to, really understand it?

atsonicpark · 06.17.2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor Anders Aase

well, I guess the Fall has had about 20 bass-players since 1977...

all great ones then..

This has me wondering... hang on a sec...

05.03.2009, 05:27 PM	#301
chairman of the bored the destroyed room Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 569	i guess the piss taking went under my radar because ive read ridiculous explanations of fall songs in liner notes and whatnot before...so what he said doesnt seem that far from a possible truth...anyways...millie's cobweb eyes etc etc __________________ stay awake to the ways of the world
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05.04.2009, 02:42 PM	#304
automatic bzooty invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,859	i'm astonished that anyone truly 'gets' the fall, period. (not that they're even remotely bad or anything, they're just so... well, y'know.)
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05.05.2009, 07:12 PM	#305
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	THE COMPLETE PEEL SESSIONS (6 disc set) is the best. __________________
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05.05.2009, 08:00 PM	#306
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Say have you ever have a chance to meet fat Captain Beefheart imitators with zits? __________________
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05.05.2009, 08:28 PM	#307
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	I like The Fall. I'm not sure that I get them, though. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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05.05.2009, 08:40 PM	#308
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	It's just a bunch of simple (but cool as shit) riffs and melodies, repeated over and over and over and over again, with a guy drunkenly talking over top with no rhythm at all and no singing ability, and making noises. That's pretty much every Fall song, give or take. And it's awesome. I will agree, there is something otherworldly about them that's a bit unexplainable. I don't know what makes their music so captivating. I think it's because they're deceptively simple, in a "Pink Flag" kinda way. Sure, the riffs and the chord changes and all that are simple, anyone can play that kinda stuff... but the structures of the song are so brilliant. They usually never go on too long, and when the songs change (if they do) is usually what's most striking. Take a song like "totally wired", when the bass changes up ever so slightly about halfway through the song, it's the most amazing thing ever. Just one slight little bass, uh, "fill", I guess. Or how about "the man whose head expanded" when the entire song slows down suddenly? Just all these amazing little moments. Great lyrics. I dunno. Just a great band. __________________
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05.05.2009, 10:01 PM	#309
chairman of the bored the destroyed room Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 569	i pretty much listen to the bass player most of the time im listening to them...maybe thats why i have no idea what me.s is blathering on about __________________ stay awake to the ways of the world
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05.06.2009, 10:08 AM	#310
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	there is nothing to "get" about the fall.......... they are the fall...thats all there is to get about them.... __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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05.06.2009, 11:55 AM	#311
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	True, totally wired makes alot of sense though, especially for our generation. That's the one song I truly get, becuase to be honest glice nailed it, for my teeny american brain....that alot of it is really english, and I'm not that savvy. Some songs I think I get well, but I won't dare to try and describe it to a bunch of brits and Atsonicpark. haha. Some songs of theirs are unnerving to drive to, kinda like the first time I heard Sy's Evol and was driving and wanted to pull over, in a good way. That's why I fell....for the fall....because then english scheme came on and was like...happy happy joy joy...haha
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05.06.2009, 01:15 PM	#312
the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	I got his Autobiography on Monday, its out in paperback for a fiver in HMV. It reads like he's dictating it to you directly from the pub, starting out with a denouncement of the last incarnaation of the band that all quit on tour in America, then describing his childhood and what he did when he left school. Not revelatory thus far but its enjoyable enough __________________ "It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican
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05.07.2009, 07:46 AM	#313
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	__________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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06.06.2009, 11:58 AM	#314
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	mp3s for all the gigs at the bottom of this page: http://www.derekerdman.com/fall/fall.htm JB's, Dudley UK 09/01/1979 Before the Moon Falls Rowche Rumble Flat of Angles Rebellious Jukebox 2nd Dark Age Stepping Out Muzorewi's Daughter Fiery Jack No Xmas for John Quays In My Area A Figure Walks Anti Club LA, CA 12/14/1979 Psykick Dancehall Rowche Rumble Flat of Angles Rebellious Jukebox Various Times Stepping Out Your Heart Out Dice Man Spectre vs. Rector Choc-Stock Muzorewi's Daughter Interview Electric Ballroom, London 04/17/1980 Intro English Scheme Fiery Jack Totally Wired City Hobgoblins Flat of Angles How I Wrote Elastic Man Rowche Rumble Impression of J. Temperance Your Heart Out Cary Grant's Wedding Dice Man In My Area Repetition MES On "Music View" NYC Radio 1981 Interview June 1981 City Gardens, NJ 06/12/1981 Impression of J. Temperance Deer Park, Leave the Capitol Fortress / Totally Wired Hip Priest 2nd Dark Age Fantastic Life Lie Dream of a Casino Soul Fit and Working Again Jawbone and the Air Rifle Session Musician Container Drivers Middle Mass Prole Art Threat Victoria University, NZ 9/8/1982 The Classical Hard Life In The Country Mere Pseud Mag. Ed. Marquis Cha-Cha Tempo House Fantastic Life Middle Mass Who Makes The Nazis? I Feel Voxish Man Whose Head Expanded Backdrop Arena, Rotterdam 02/12/1983 Room to Live Words of Expectation Wings Mere Pseud Mag Ed And This Day Hexen Definitive-Strife Knot I Feel Voxish Ludd Gang Garden Kicker Conspiracy Backdrop Concord Bar, Brighton 10/27/1983 Hexen Definitive I Feel Voxish Pat Trip Dispenser Mere Pseud Mag Ed Garden English Scheme Words of Expectation Wings 2 x 4 C.R.E.E.P. Backdrop Kicker Conspiracy Ludd Gang Madison, Middlesborough 11/01/1983 Words of Expectation Ludd Gang Eat Y'self Fitter 2 x 4 Tempo House Hexen Definitive-Strife Knot The Man Whose Head Expanded Wings Oh Brother CREEP Backdrop Kicker Conspiracy Mere Pseud Mag Ed St. Germans, Cornwall 07/29/1984 Smile Lie Dream of a Casino Soul C.R.E.E.P. Elves Hexen Definitive-Strife Knot / 2 x 4 No Bulbs Joker Hysterical Face Lay of the Land Kicker Conspiracy Oh! Brother Totally Wired Columbus, Ohio 04/01/1985 Copped It Fortress Disney's Dream Debased Couldn't Get Ahead Elves Clear Off 2 x 4 Slang King Barmy God Box Wings Lay of the Land
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	daaaaaaamn __________________
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This Is Not Here invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingston-Upon-Thames, London Posts: 2,586	Roll call for the london show on wednesday? __________________ http://images.google.co.uk/url?sourc...zLTl_B146tcuiw ~~Record of the moment~~
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06.08.2009, 09:39 AM	#319
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	no one knows what mark is blathering on about but then how many people really really understand ulysees , not claim to, really understand it? __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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