Chris Rock's Top 25 Hip Hop Albums

Danny Himself · 04.02.2009, 06:42 AM

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/tha_fl...hip_hop_albums

Actually not much to disagree with here! He's definitely spot on with what he says about Paul's Boutique and AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, he knows what he's on about. There's some wild card picks in there too that I'd never thought he'd come up with, especially Dizzee Rascal? I had no idea he had any success in the US at all.

"People don't have a problem with conscious rap; they have a problem with conscious beats. If you make some ignorant beats, you can say all the smart shit you want."

jennthebenn · 04.02.2009, 07:12 AM

Plenty to argue with.

"Stillmatic" and not "Illmatic"?

"Mama Said" and not "Radio"?

2Pac in the top 5?

Danny Himself · 04.02.2009, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jennthebenn

"Stillmatic" and not "Illmatic"?

"Mama Said" and not "Radio"?

2Pac in the top 5?

Aha well he couldn't pick everything? Just like he concedes that De La Soul's first two albums are two of the best ever- they're still not in the list. It's like.. one album per artist list I suppose. I think the reasons he gave for picking Mama Said.. are good enough. Now that you've pointed out his Nas pick.. I'm not sure about that one. I haven't heard that Tupac bootleg and I probably never will, so I can't pass judgement, it might the best thing ever for all I know.

Still a solid list.

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 07:26 AM

I can definitely see Pac being in there. BUt what an awful, awful album to represent him. ME AGAINST THE WORLD, THE 7 DAY THEORY, ALL EYEZ ON ME... c'mon!

Some good entries obviously, but some stupid ones too.

jennthebenn · 04.02.2009, 07:29 AM

He's got more wheat than chaff on there for sure. He was smart enough to pick the two best Wu solo albums, so that's indicative that by and large he knows his shit. Although..."You don't really need a Wu-Tang album; Liquid Swords is all you really need to know." Nah, you need the first Wu.

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 07:37 AM

Of course you do!! If you were listening to hip hop when ENTER came out, then you would never ever dismiss it.

And am I the only who thinks Jay-Z has way better albums than REASONABLE? I mean, it's good, but...

Danny Himself · 04.02.2009, 07:37 AM

I love that he put Doggystyle on there, no shame.

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 07:59 AM

No, that's an understandable choice. If you want a good party album, then DOGGYSTYLE is yr guy. Great beats, great flow, etc.

Danny Himself · 04.02.2009, 08:02 AM

Ahah I know, but I definitely wouldn't put it that high up. Especially above Beasties, Wu Tang, De La Soul, Ice Cube, Eric B and Rakim etc. I guess that's just me though. I'd have put Ultramagnetic MCs on there.

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 08:22 AM

No, no, don't get me wrong. DOGGYSTYLE wouldn't be in my Top whatever, but I can understand Somebody putting it in Theirs I guess.

I'd like to say I'd put Ultra up there. But really, CRITICAL BEATDOWN was their best, and still not something I'd consider even Top 100 hip hop LP's of all time.

Danny Himself · 04.02.2009, 08:31 AM

You think so? I love Critical Beatdown, I'd definitely have it in a list somewhere above 50. Their lyrics and sampling techniques are just insane.

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 08:34 AM

They are. I agree. I just have a really, Really large hip hop collection that started about 15 years ago. Over that time I've amassed a lot of albums that have been more important to me, or that I've listened to a lot more. Like my personal Top 100 would probably consist of albums that weren't groundbreaking or important in the overall landscape of hip hop, but that just meant a lot to me. Y'know?

But yeah, there's some excellent sampling on CRITICAL. In fact that's more what I think of that album for, not really lyrics or delivery even. Keith was still years away from his prime.

Danny Himself · 04.02.2009, 08:42 AM

Hmm yeah I know what you mean. I mean obviously its pretty hard to separate what records are important to us personally and what records we think are important in the overall evolution of music. I don't even try, now, haha.

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You probably have more hip hop records than I have records of all genres, so you do know what you're talking about.

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 08:45 AM

It's the genre that I've listened to/collected the longest. So yeh, I'd say if there was a genre that I had an expertise in that would be it.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.02.2009, 08:51 AM

unfinished business over strictly business, is he deaf?!

i'll admit straight off that i've never hear dthe carnival by wyclef, but seriously i have a hard time believing that that record is anything other than pure rubbish

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 09:03 AM

The Carnival is Wyclef's best solo album. It is the closest to the sound of a Fugees album (chances are good that it started as demo's for the follow up to The Score). Tracks like "Bubblegoose" and "Apocalypse" etc could have easily been Fugees tracks. And good ones.

But having said all that. The record does not belong on even a Top 100.

Derek · 04.02.2009, 11:22 AM

This thread isn't white enough. I say we talk about Autechre instead.

noisereductions · 04.02.2009, 11:30 AM

okay. zero zero one. one zero one.

atsonicpark · 04.02.2009, 11:31 AM

What will be can't be and what has been isn't.

Derek · 04.02.2009, 11:45 AM

bleep bloop bleep bloop bleep

3875/3325 time signature

04.02.2009, 06:42 AM	#1
Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	http://rateyourmusic.com/list/tha_fl...hip_hop_albums Actually not much to disagree with here! He's definitely spot on with what he says about Paul's Boutique and AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, he knows what he's on about. There's some wild card picks in there too that I'd never thought he'd come up with, especially Dizzee Rascal? I had no idea he had any success in the US at all. "People don't have a problem with conscious rap; they have a problem with conscious beats. If you make some ignorant beats, you can say all the smart shit you want."
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04.02.2009, 07:12 AM	#2
jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,259	Plenty to argue with. "Stillmatic" and not "Illmatic"? "Mama Said" and not "Radio"? 2Pac in the top 5? __________________ http://jennthebenn.tumblr.com/
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04.02.2009, 07:26 AM	#4
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	I can definitely see Pac being in there. BUt what an awful, awful album to represent him. ME AGAINST THE WORLD, THE 7 DAY THEORY, ALL EYEZ ON ME... c'mon! Some good entries obviously, but some stupid ones too. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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04.02.2009, 07:29 AM	#5
jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,259	He's got more wheat than chaff on there for sure. He was smart enough to pick the two best Wu solo albums, so that's indicative that by and large he knows his shit. Although..."You don't really need a Wu-Tang album; Liquid Swords is all you really need to know." Nah, you need the first Wu. __________________ http://jennthebenn.tumblr.com/
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04.02.2009, 07:37 AM	#6
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	Of course you do!! If you were listening to hip hop when ENTER came out, then you would never ever dismiss it. And am I the only who thinks Jay-Z has way better albums than REASONABLE? I mean, it's good, but... __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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04.02.2009, 07:59 AM	#8
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	No, that's an understandable choice. If you want a good party album, then DOGGYSTYLE is yr guy. Great beats, great flow, etc. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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04.02.2009, 08:02 AM	#9
Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	Ahah I know, but I definitely wouldn't put it that high up. Especially above Beasties, Wu Tang, De La Soul, Ice Cube, Eric B and Rakim etc. I guess that's just me though. I'd have put Ultramagnetic MCs on there.
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04.02.2009, 08:22 AM	#10
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	No, no, don't get me wrong. DOGGYSTYLE wouldn't be in my Top whatever, but I can understand Somebody putting it in Theirs I guess. I'd like to say I'd put Ultra up there. But really, CRITICAL BEATDOWN was their best, and still not something I'd consider even Top 100 hip hop LP's of all time. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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04.02.2009, 08:31 AM	#11
Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	You think so? I love Critical Beatdown, I'd definitely have it in a list somewhere above 50. Their lyrics and sampling techniques are just insane.
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04.02.2009, 08:34 AM	#12
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	They are. I agree. I just have a really, Really large hip hop collection that started about 15 years ago. Over that time I've amassed a lot of albums that have been more important to me, or that I've listened to a lot more. Like my personal Top 100 would probably consist of albums that weren't groundbreaking or important in the overall landscape of hip hop, but that just meant a lot to me. Y'know? But yeah, there's some excellent sampling on CRITICAL. In fact that's more what I think of that album for, not really lyrics or delivery even. Keith was still years away from his prime. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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04.02.2009, 08:42 AM	#13
Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	Hmm yeah I know what you mean. I mean obviously its pretty hard to separate what records are important to us personally and what records we think are important in the overall evolution of music. I don't even try, now, haha. + You probably have more hip hop records than I have records of all genres, so you do know what you're talking about.
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04.02.2009, 08:45 AM	#14
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	It's the genre that I've listened to/collected the longest. So yeh, I'd say if there was a genre that I had an expertise in that would be it. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,215	unfinished business over strictly business, is he deaf?! i'll admit straight off that i've never hear dthe carnival by wyclef, but seriously i have a hard time believing that that record is anything other than pure rubbish
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04.02.2009, 09:03 AM	#16
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	The Carnival is Wyclef's best solo album. It is the closest to the sound of a Fugees album (chances are good that it started as demo's for the follow up to The Score). Tracks like "Bubblegoose" and "Apocalypse" etc could have easily been Fugees tracks. And good ones. But having said all that. The record does not belong on even a Top 100. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	This thread isn't white enough. I say we talk about Autechre instead.
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noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	okay. zero zero one. one zero one. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	What will be can't be and what has been isn't. __________________
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	bleep bloop bleep bloop bleep 3875/3325 time signature
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