poetry

syntax-free · 11.03.2007, 01:09 AM

So i'm wondering, if yer ever asked who's your fav poet, who would honestly say thurston moore? am i the only one?

SynthethicalY · 11.03.2007, 01:11 AM

He is good with playing with words. But in my opinion I would say Ginsberg, and Shakespeare.

syntax-free · 11.03.2007, 01:13 AM

i just honestly think we need more of the beats in this world. more people like thurston, who experiment with words and have no boundaries.

SynthethicalY · 11.03.2007, 01:16 AM

Well that is true. But any poet can be easily say they are not conforming to the same regulations as many. Just like other arts, it is all subjective.

sonicl · 11.03.2007, 01:38 AM

I had to read a ton of poetry when I was at school. Some of it (particularly the metaphysical) could easily have turned me of the form for life. I was quite taken with Robert Browning though.

alyasa · 11.03.2007, 01:55 AM

Burroughs

Toxa · 11.03.2007, 07:11 AM

Esenin

suez · 11.03.2007, 07:30 AM

nicfit · 11.03.2007, 07:33 AM

Blake

PAULYBEE2656 · 11.03.2007, 08:12 AM

shakespere

suez · 11.03.2007, 09:32 AM

i dont know why you like shakespere, i think his poems are not poems

alyasa · 11.03.2007, 10:18 AM

Cobain

alyasa · 11.03.2007, 10:18 AM

Moore/Ranaldo

racehorse · 11.03.2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by syntax-free

i just honestly think we need more of the beats in this world. more people like thurston, who experiment with words and have no boundaries.

you should then read anything in the american modernist/post-war & postmodern tradition since pound & williams i.e. zukofsky, oppen, thru to creeley and olson then l=a=n=g=u=a=g=e guys like larry eigner and then maybe look at susan howe for a true post-avant language based poetics.
thurston is a truly awful poet - amazing songwriter/musician, awful poet.
post-beat is a genre that should be left alone to die.

the ikara cult · 11.03.2007, 07:55 PM

Danny Himself · 11.03.2007, 08:03 PM

Robert Frost or Poe, for me. T-bone blows at poetry, to be frank.

syntax-free · 11.03.2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by racehorse

you should then read anything in the american modernist/post-war & postmodern tradition since pound & williams i.e. zukofsky, oppen, thru to creeley and olson then l=a=n=g=u=a=g=e guys like larry eigner and then maybe look at susan howe for a true post-avant language based poetics.
thurston is a truly awful poet - amazing songwriter/musician, awful poet.
post-beat is a genre that should be left alone to die.

i disagree... with the thurston being an awful poet. i don't know how to back that up, but well, imo i think he's great. i dont know why...

Danny Himself · 11.03.2007, 09:09 PM

See 'small flowers crack concrete' as evidence. The title was good, but little else.

k-krack · 11.04.2007, 12:31 AM

Thurston's "poetry" seems more like someone consciously trying to write poetry, and it sounds really really contrived. I love the man with all my heart, but it doesn't work. He should stick to writing lyrics, not poems and prose (yeh, there is a difference).

Shit that matters:
Ginsberg
Kerouac
Peter Orlovsky
Gregory Corso
Lawrence Ferlinghetti
(err, the entire Howls, Raps and Roars box set... it's 4 cds of beat poets and shit... great stuff)
Bukowski
Henry Rollins (more prose... but whatever)
Michael Ondaatje (same as Rollins... I HIGHLY recommend The Collected Works of Billy the Kid and Coming Through Slaughter)
Edgar Allen Poe (of course!)
I am pulling up blanks right now, but I'll be back!

11.04.2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by syntax-free

So i'm wondering, if yer ever asked who's your fav poet, who would honestly say thurston moore? am i the only one?

You are crazy and stupid, which is a dangerous combination. Try and be stupid alone, it is not like being crazy too, but it's better than having the worst of both worlds.

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SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Well that is true. But any poet can be easily say they are not conforming to the same regulations as many. Just like other arts, it is all subjective.
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Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	Robert Frost or Poe, for me. T-bone blows at poetry, to be frank.
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Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	See 'small flowers crack concrete' as evidence. The title was good, but little else.
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11.04.2007, 12:31 AM	#19
k-krack invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Posts: 7,380	Thurston's "poetry" seems more like someone consciously trying to write poetry, and it sounds really really contrived. I love the man with all my heart, but it doesn't work. He should stick to writing lyrics, not poems and prose (yeh, there is a difference). Shit that matters: Ginsberg Kerouac Peter Orlovsky Gregory Corso Lawrence Ferlinghetti (err, the entire Howls, Raps and Roars box set... it's 4 cds of beat poets and shit... great stuff) Bukowski Henry Rollins (more prose... but whatever) Michael Ondaatje (same as Rollins... I HIGHLY recommend The Collected Works of Billy the Kid and Coming Through Slaughter) Edgar Allen Poe (of course!) I am pulling up blanks right now, but I'll be back! __________________ sandwich klub 4 men. Danny is a C.H.U.D.
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