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Originally Posted by ilduclo

nope, we gained it because the wages are high in Wa, and I got huge amounts of overtime. Plus the sales tax there didn't hurt much, since I've never been a real consumer. NO INCOME TAX in Wa!! Then, in Oregon, similar cost of living, way worse tax structure (IMO, but not according to many others). OR relies a lot on property taxes, which are horribly inequitable, even from house to house on a single block, let alone from city to city and county to county, etc. And then OR has a very non-progressive income tax, so that I pay the same rate as a really rich fuck, even though I'm far from that now, more mid-mid or lower mid now.....I did great in Wa, you can, too!

you're already retired no? so-- you have money to burn. plus you had different studies/industry/etc. retirees are the most affluent demographic.

his challenge right now as a millenial burdened with debt (i think) is to have savings and a positive cash flow for the move.

the 3 main areas of cost for a person in that situation usually are:

1) housing, 2) transportation, 3) food/groceries


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severales:

1) housing is easily solved by getting rid of STUFF. stuff requires space. space costs a lot of money in cities. space also requires heating and cooling and furniture, and all that costs money and moving expenses (trucks, crews, theft, etc).

solution: sell all, go digital, get a uniform/capsule wardrobe, rent a monastic cell in the new town and a bank box for your must-keep things.

the only great piece of furniture you need is a mattress. not even a bed proper.

rental can be a room in a shared house or a studio apartment or some sort of dorm situation like some tech workers have. tiny houses in people's backyards, in-law houses, etc. even in a city, one can get something small for $500/person or less. go to student areas if need be.

 

 

if you need more space, YOU'RE NOW IN A BIG CITY. use it.

as for cooking--you can do most cooking in a microwave oven. fuck stoves (i have a stove and it's ok but could live without it)

2) transportation: selling an extra vehicle gives you a nice nest egg for the move. better yet if you do it upon arriving as cars command higher prices in cities.

since you'll be applying for jobs first (you're sending resumes, whatever), the best option is to get rid of vehicular need by looking to live within walking/biking distance of work or easy access to public transportation. save tons in car payments, insurance, fuel, repairs, parking (pricey in cities), accoutrements (lol), etc. in some jobs, metro cards & such can be pre-tax. $200/mo TOPS. but with walking it goes down to $0, plus a free workout.

alternatively if you work home-based just live somewhere walkable where you can do most of your life there.

if you need the occasional vehicle maybe get a taxi/uber ride or look into zipcar or whatever it's called these days but you're not tied down to a monthly obligation & babysitting.

3) food/groceries: design a staple-based menu that fits nutritional requirements and is easy to make. if going vegetarian, you can easily go for $100/mo even in cities. brownbag all lunches and eat at home as much as you can. for $4/day one can actually eat well. just google "leanne brown cheap and good" for free pdf. you're welcome. eta: okay, here: https://cookbooks.leannebrown.com/good-and-cheap.pdf <-- read the intro

again the microwave can take care of most things. a hotplate can be had for like $20, induction is like $100 and those rule. just don't blow the fuses w/ the microwave & hotplate in the same circuit lol. for some people like the japanese, a unitasker like the rice cooker is useful.

as for non-essentials:

entertainment - cities are blessed with abundant libraries and free opportunities like outdoor music, museums, & plenty of street theatre. get a basic internet for the monastic cell, but if i comes with a contract maybe your cell plan is enough while things get sorted.

if you plan to go out drinking some times, a flask in your pocket cuts costs significantly.

to go out to eat, lunch is cheaper than dinner and many hole-in-the-wall places have the tastiest foods

phone service - cell is an essental nowadays but "in theory" you could use an internet phone at home (google voice) for free with your ipod/ipad/laptop. as for cells sometimes the main providers have the best deals, but in cities all reception is good and look to pay-as-you-go services like republic wireless, virgin mobile, bla bla etc. shop around/sign no contracts/ look into android (i know, i know) if your iphone breaks.

[note: since i live in 1500 acres of forest far from utilities, i have satellite internet. my quota is 25GB/mo. tough? yeah. doable? sure. worth it for me? fuck the hell yes]

ONCE THE JOB IS STABLE and there's a steady positive cash flow and a clear career path, save some for emergencies/fuck-you money, pay off debts first, and then start building life according to what you have, not what you wish you had, and there is no limit from there.

some people who do this just keep saving so that they can fuck off to anywhere at the drop of a hat instead of "getting more stuff".

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac

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final words a la jerry springer: "broke" is relative. there's cash flow broke and net worth broke. avoid both. keep your cash flow always positive and use that to build your net worth. no matter the scale, the formula always works (it also works in the opposite, to fuck you up eventually if you spend more than you earn, no matter how much you earn, spending more than that will break you).

[Severian]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

nope, we gained it because the wages are high in Wa, and I got huge amounts of overtime. Plus the sales tax there didn't hurt much, since I've never been a real consumer. NO INCOME TAX in Wa!! Then, in Oregon, similar cost of living, way worse tax structure (IMO, but not according to many others). OR relies a lot on property taxes, which are horribly inequitable, even from house to house on a single block, let alone from city to city and county to county, etc. And then OR has a very non-progressive income tax, so that I pay the same rate as a really rich fuck, even though I'm far from that now, more mid-mid or lower mid now..the big problem here in OR was that I got a huge pay cut moving here, and then Ms Ild was never able to find good work here in Science. She did micro-biology lab work, very well remunirated in WA but in OR they hire college students and pay min wage......I did great in Wa, you can, too!

Well, I struggled financially there... but that was... Jesus... 2001? Around there? I don't know. I ended up doing OK, but "rich" in Seattle is kind of unfathomable to me. (Actually scratch that, because I know Mercer Island and Redmond folks aplenty... but I can't quite fathom ever being one.)

Anyway. I really am considering sending out some resumes, but I've had two major career shifts in my life, and I like what I'm doing right now. If I can find sustainable employment in my (adoptive) field, I'll hop on a plane. I am sick of cities though, so not Seattle. Small-ish town life suits my revved up, anxious, neurotic state of mind.

[ilduclo]

we lived in Briar, nice little community, close in, but pretty quiet

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here's a fun one for any and all:

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[Shaka Moloch]

I am now in Idaho, looking into Idaho Medical Marijuana Association needing 50,000 signatures to get Medical Marijuana onto a ballot by 2018. I was in Washington for a decade, and wonder: why, I must be in partial denial of having seen a sleek particle detector emerge from the hands of someone investigating about a friend of mines' home, ticking like the radiation fields I've heard go off in some video game like MGS and/or Fallout... just how much of a crapshoot are we looking at with the still-flailing Fukushima-crisis? This was just around the area of the University of Washington after a light rain.
I remain frazzled by that curious time; no one seemed to comment on the machine and its read. Like as if we'd always known our caves better and dangerous light seems to be flitting near the chasm-way keeping us from discovery, yet the light is just being employed to lure us out--they've heard us! Or maybe I did ask if a "Radio-activity Reader" had just been deployed outside of my buddies' home which cackled off to the sound of picking up heinous chatter.
Denial nevertheless lingers on. At what point do we write in for a disaster-relief fund?

Radiation levels of about 650 sieverts per hour have been detected in the containment vessel of reactor No. 2.

Iron Man and Stark Industries are working on the de-radiation ceremonies, yes?

A frozen soil barrier has been constructed in an attempt to prevent further contamination of seeping groundwater by melted-down nuclear fuel,[20] but in July 2016 TEPCO revealed that the ice wall had failed to stop groundwater from flowing in and mixing with highly radioactive water inside the wrecked reactor buildings, adding that they are "technically incapable of blocking off groundwater with the frozen wall"[21]

David Lee Fry, Malheur Wildlife Refugee takeover survivor, reports: " there is an 80% greater likelihood that people living on the west coast now will be in danger of developing cancer at a greater rate than normal for the next five to thirty years." He has spent time both in Japan and on the West Coast living. "Milk is the best line of defense for the average consumer," he continued, sure to tell me he was alright with however I chose to aid his case. I couldn't help thinking about lips and breasts, but focused long enough to hear his sure feeling that I should investigate http://defendyourbase.com/ or, more precisely: https://www.facebook.com/defendyourb...=page_internal.
Maybe we can build a wall of fire on the Pacific Coast beach-line if we have any extra time on our hands or with the PotUS' think-tank concocting a Wall for the border between southern North America and Central America with her great number of (as Border-Wars on National Geographic channel indicates) desperadoes?
What's safe now?

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Originally Posted by Shaka Moloch

I am now in Idaho, looking into Idaho Medical Marijuana Association needing 50,000 signatures to get Medical Marijuana onto a ballot by 2018. I was in Washington for a decade, and wonder: why, I must be in partial denial of having seen a sleek particle detector emerge from the hands of someone investigating about a friend of mines' home, ticking like the radiation fields I've heard go off in some video game like MGS and/or Fallout... just how much of a crapshoot are we looking at with the still-flailing Fukushima-crisis? This was just around the area of the University of Washington after a light rain.
I remain frazzled by that curious time; no one seemed to comment on the machine and its read. Like as if we'd always known our caves better and dangerous light seems to be flitting near the chasm-way keeping us from discovery, yet the light is just being employed to lure us out--they've heard us! Or maybe I did ask if a "Radio-activity Reader" had just been employed outside of your home and cackled off to the sound of chatter.
Denial nevertheless lingers on. At what point do we write in for disaster relief?

Radiation levels of about 650 sieverts per hour have been detected in the containment vessel of reactor No. 2.

Iron Man and Stark Industries are working on the de-radiation ceremonies, yes?

A frozen soil barrier has been constructed in an attempt to prevent further contamination of seeping groundwater by melted-down nuclear fuel,[20] but in July 2016 TEPCO revealed that the ice wall had failed to stop groundwater from flowing in and mixing with highly radioactive water inside the wrecked reactor buildings, adding that they are "technically incapable of blocking off groundwater with the frozen wall"[21]

David Lee Fry, Malheur Wildlife Refugee takeover survivor, reports: "80% of people living on the west coast now will be in danger of developing cancer at a greater rate than normal for the next five to thirty years." He has spent time both in Japan and on the West Coast living. "Milk is the best line of defense for the average consumer," he continued, sure to tell me he was alright with however I chose to aid his case. I couldn't help thinking about lips and breasts, but focused long enough to hear his sure feeling that I should investigate http://defendyourbase.com/.
Maybe we can build a wall of fire on the Pacific Coast beach-line if we have any extra time on our hands or with the PotUS' think-tank concocting a Wall for the border between southern North America and Central America with her great number of (as Border-Wars on National Geographic channel indicates) desperadoes?
What's safe now?

you remind me a little of j.g. ballard

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jeff sessions

pants on fire

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

you remind me a little of j.g. ballard

 

->CRASH!<-

 

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

jeff sessions

pants on fire

FOR THE LOVE OF LAIKA, is there ANYONE in that monkey psychiatric house who hasn't been in touch with the Russians?

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i was thinking of teh atrocity exhibition actually in the interspersing of narrative with scientific discourse etc

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

FOR THE LOVE OF LAIKA, is there ANYONE in that monkey psychiatric house who hasn't been in touch with the Russians?

It's just a game now. "How are they going to excuse THIS one and avoid what should be closed-book impeachment?" Fuck, we're all on our goddamn own, the government has been replaced with those aliens from the Simpsons, and it's just fucking theater of the absurd at this point.

I've been getting so mad about my news feed that I've been punching walls and screaming myself hoarse like a child. But fuck it. This is comedy.

Not really... I just can't get any more angry or I will literally explode. Just found out I have to buy a new furnace, which is just REALLY GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!! FFFUCKKKKK MY ASSS

yeah so being chill is a matter of medical necessity at this point.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i was thinking of teh atrocity exhibition actually in the interspersing of narrative with scientific discourse etc

YAH WELL, see, I just thought, hey, "crash" between posts, and since JGB actually wrote a novel named Crash, it seemed lightly pertinent, y'dig, and the avatars "crashing" wouldn't have gone that well with "Atrocity Exhibition" written between them, and... The joke is gone by now.

Currently my favorite Ballard novel is High Rise, by the by.

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i need more time for reading

i think im gonna eary-retire/take a sabbatical

...

yes! i need new glasses but that's it

SABBATICAL

& more books

[Severian]

Right now I hate the furnace guy more than I hate Donald Trump, I think.

Am I normalizing, or just popping a brain screw?

I'm going to go take some pills and laugh and cry and maybe masturbate in the corner.

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remember how in "tlön, uqbar, orbis tertius" which is a chronicle à clef of the descent of german idealism into nazy ideology, the author takes refuge from a world gone mad into literature, and is reading "una traducción quevediana de urn burial"?

well, i'm gonna do something like that while everything goes to shit around us.

literature as escapism fuck yeah

epicurus assist me

[evollove]

I've been feeling utterly defeated lately.

Session's press conference about to start. I bet on fuck-all happening. Hope I'm wrong.

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any of you shitheads speak french by any chance? my french is getting rusty. fuck fuck fuck.

i bet it would take me the whole of trump's presidency to finish à la recherche du temps perdu

help me practice

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Severian

Right now I hate the furnace guy more than I hate Donald Trump, I think.

Am I normalizing, or just popping a brain screw?

I'm going to go take some pills and laugh and cry and maybe masturbate in the corner.

You know the Trumpocalypse is taking a big toll on you when you end up your post with something straight out of pepper_douche's repertoire. Get it together or your ass will be banned.

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because it's all about getting your pleasures if you can and if i can take a sabbatical and avoid people it will be fucking fantastic

in case of nuclear attack, hide under the table

i say fuck yeah. and eat all the profiteroles

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Get it together or your ass will be banned.

calla, paco

no amenaces