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Old 09.29.2020, 03:14 PM   #9281
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May 18, 2018 (page 202)
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Symbols, I admire your willingness to wait, it’s all we can do.

All I’m pointing out is so far there is no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded.

Evidently Congress has information that Russia colluded with someone?? Guess what, they probably did.

The question is, who???

President Obama

Hillary Clinton or her campaign


Anyone else??????

All we know so far is there is not one single shred of evidence linking President Trump or his campaign.

****BREAKING NEWS****

Once Congress reveals who colluded—GUESS WHAT—there is no evidence that it had any impact on the election or that Donald Trump won because of it.

Last but not least, as I’ve stated previously in this thread......from my meager understanding of the law......colluding isn’t a crime.

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May 18, 2018 (page 203)
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And so it goes....on and on and on and on.....in circles.

If Mueller does end his investigation with charges of collusion, I don't know how in the fuck Peltor and millions of others are going to comprehend it. Symbols said it best a few posts ago. We are in the age of Alternative Facts.


May 18, 2018 (page 203)......h8kurdt’s eyes must be sewn shut!
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So the fact the Mueller has so far charged 19 people and 3 companies is nothing. 3 people have also pleaded guilty relating to the investigation.

Of course there's nothing going on. He's got nothing at all. If you honestly believe Trump knew NOTHING about what was going on you're deluded.

C'mon man, open your eyes and ears.


May 20, 2018 (page 203)......tesla knew!
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Yet others noted that the FBI's Russia "investigation" into Trump didn't seem to extend to Hillary Clinton. We would remind readers that her campaign chair, John Podesta, sat on the board of Massachusetts energy company Joule Unlimited, along with senior Russian official Anatoly Chubais and Russian oligarch Ruben Vardanyan – who was appointed by Vladimir Putin to the Russian economic council.
Two months after Podesta joined the board, Joule managed to raise $35 million from Putin’s Kremlin-backed investment fund Rusnano. Podesta transferred 75,000 shares of Joule to his daughter through a shell company using her address.

May 20, 2018 (page 203)......the poo slinger wallows in madness!
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don’t you dare challenge madness with logic, you soroastrian agent of interplanetary reptilio-fascism

 


Donald Trump Jr. tweet

OMG—JUST DECLASSIFIED:
The Russia hoax was Hillary’s plan, and the Obama-Biden White House was briefed on it.

 
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Old 09.29.2020, 05:30 PM   #9282
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Evidently Congress has information that Russia colluded with someone?? Guess what, they probably did.

The question is, who???

President Obama

Hillary Clinton or her campaign

Anyone else??????

All we know so far is there is not one single shred of evidence linking President Trump or his campaign.

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Donald Trump Jr. tweet

OMG—JUST DECLASSIFIED:
The Russia hoax was Hillary’s plan, and the Obama-Biden White House was briefed on it.

 


September 7, 2016 - U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI director James Comey and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strozk regarding “U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s approval of a plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private mail server.


May 20, 2018 (page 203)
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It's so obvious now where this whole thing is going to end up. Even Ray Charles can see where this is going. The recent headlines and tweet-storms say it all.


1. The Mueller report will be very bad news for Trump.

2. But, Team Trump will say that it was all Obama's fault, because he directed the FBI to set this all up for political reasons.


We can end this whole debate right now, because that is exactly what is going to happen.

I shall bump this post when it happens.


PS. I forgot point 3......

3. Millions upon millions of Trumpists will buy this explanation, hook, line and sinker.

June 20, 2018 (page 212)
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So, I see we are still talking about Clinton's fucking emails?

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"But her emails".


November 6, 2018 (page 261)
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RUSH LIMBAUGH UNLEASHED:

- "Hillary Clinton colluded with Russia."
- "Hillary Clinton rigged that election.”
- Joe Biden “can’t fill a phone booth” on the campaign trail
- Bill Clinton, Obama envious & jealous of Trump's crowds


Charlie Kirk tweet

BREAKING:

According to recently declassified intel reports—John Brennan briefed Obama and others about “approval by Hillary Clinton” on a plan to vilify Donald Trump by tying him to Russia & Putin

Obama knew.

This was a hoax from the beginning—where are the indictments?
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Old 09.29.2020, 10:55 PM   #9283
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Shit...we have 2 more clusterfucks to sit through?
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Old 09.29.2020, 11:02 PM   #9284
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Shit...we have 2 more clusterfucks to sit through?

Fine by me if Biden makes the Dotard lose it again.

This is nothing. (And stop making false equivalences.) Worry about the election.
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Old 09.30.2020, 01:41 AM   #9285
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Fine by me if Biden makes the Dotard lose it again.

This is nothing. (And stop making false equivalences.) Worry about the election.

And when I say worry about the election, I mean WORRY about THIS.

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Jim Thienel, 73, of Waterford, Mich., said that in his view, fraud was inevitable and Mr. Trump was simply refusing to accept any election tainted by it.

“I think what Trump is really saying is that if the election is filled with fraud, which I believe it’s going to be, do you walk out on your role as the president of the United States simply because the Democrats cheated?” said Mr. Thienel, who runs an appliance repair shop.

[...]

Mr. Thienel said that his years as a poll watcher in Detroit convinced him that voter fraud would be widespread this year. “I think it’s far more likely that Democrats will cheat with the absentee and mail-in ballots. I strongly believe that there is nothing the Democrats wouldn’t do to win,” he said.

Like many of Mr. Trump’s supporters, Mr. Thienel was more concerned with the prospect of violence instigated by opponents of the president if he wins.

“I just spent three and a half hours in gun training today because I’m concerned,” he said.

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Old 09.30.2020, 03:00 AM   #9286
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And when I say worry about the election, I mean WORRY about THIS.


Trump:


ETA: The motherfuckers have already added president Apocalypse Fuckface's message to them to their logo.

 

As I already said in tonight's post to another thread:

"As has already been stated MANY times, President Trump CONDEMNED white supremacism at his press conferense following the Charloittesville murder (kindly Google "The Charlottesville Lie"). By mixing up white supremacism with the Kenosha Guard, Chris Wallace confounded the central issue posed by his question with an arbitrary attribution of racist motives to the Kenosha Guard, and President Trump's response for the need of investigation into that issue was interpreted by NBC News correspondent Savannah Guthrie as a refusal on President Trump's part to answer a direct question as to whether or not he was a racist!"

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President Trump is hardly responsible for any interpretations which groups unrelated to his campaign may apply to his statements.
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Old 09.30.2020, 03:12 AM   #9287
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Comey Strikes Deal Regarding Congressional Testimony......to face questions about his handling of the Clinton email and Trump-Russia collusion investigations.


......someone please tell Skuj about the Clinton emails

September 27, 2020 (page 464)
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Lastly, it’s my understanding a BIG BIG BIG story will drop later this week regarding The Clinton’s : )

Former FBI Director Comey to Testify Wednesday

T-minus six hours until Comey testifies again, this time with the newly unclassified report that Crooked Hillary was the mastermind behind Russian collusion......will anyone be watching?


Chad Pergram tweet
“Fmr FBI Dir Comey goes before Senate Judiciary Cmte today to answer questions about Crossfire Hurricane probe/FISA warrants“
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What the fuck!?
He is your President
He is responsible
He should take action against it, not just say that he opposes, but act as such
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Man, this is not looking good. It was Biden versus a belligerent buffoon who didn't even care to hide his buffoonery anymore, safe for unconvincingly stating his disinfectant injection comment earlier this year had been "sarcastic". Trump didn't do himself any favors with this lack of a performance. But that's actually what worries me. In line with what Soup Nazi stated above: The dotard has hinted time and time again at the possibility, that he may not accept the results of the election if they are not in his favor. There's this sinking feeling that what the world witnessed yesterday was a man who doesn't care anymore. Why would he have no reason to care? Possibly because he seems to think he won't leave office no matter what? I mean, this shit was worrying way way before yesterday's pathetic display. But it certainly seemed to put a definite stamp on all the worries that have been festering over time. Shit, he ain't even dogwhistling anymore, all of his bigotry came with a humungous sign that said "Here, look at me, I'm out in the open". At this point, does it matter if Biden wipes the floor with him during the election, when there's a good chance Trump's gonna exploit a broken system to his advantage again? Frightening thought I tell ya, frightening thought.
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Man, this is not looking good. It was Biden versus a belligerent buffoon who didn't even care to hide his buffoonery anymore, safe for unconvincingly stating his disinfectant injection comment earlier this year had been "sarcastic". Trump didn't do himself any favors with this lack of a performance. But that's actually what worries me. In line with what Soup Nazi stated above: The dotard has hinted time and time again at the possibility, that he may not accept the results of the election if they are not in his favor. There's this sinking feeling that what the world witnessed yesterday was a man who doesn't care anymore. Why would he have no reason to care? Possibly because he seems to think he won't leave office no matter what? I mean, this shit was worrying way way before yesterday's pathetic display. But it certainly seemed to put a definite stamp on all the worries that have been festering over time. Shit, he ain't even dogwhistling anymore, all of his bigotry came with a humungous sign that said "Here, look at me, I'm out in the open". At this point, does it matter if Biden wipes the floor with him during the election, when there's a good chance Trump's gonna exploit a broken system to his advantage again? Frightening thought I tell ya, frightening thought.

I'd forgotten how bad Trump is in these kinds of situations. But I was quickly reminded how, as terrible as he was overall in those debates with Hillary, where, even as I became increasingly unsympathetic towards her, his only real stand out moment (albeit a massive one) was his, "because you'd be in jail" line. There was nothing as perfectly timed or delivered as that last night. But more than that, I thinkTrump's real problem is that while people may question lots of things about Biden, they don't instinctively dislike him the way so many did when it came to Hillary. I actually thought Biden did really well last night: keeping his head and never succumbing to the gaffes many expected (hopefully from Trump's side, fearfully on the side of the Dems). He was the level-headed centrist throughout and definitely forced Trump to go on the defensive.

While I suspect that neither would have converted anyone already set on their support for one or the other I'd definitely give this round to Biden. Trump's strongest moment IMO was where he called out antifa, but that isn't something I'd see Biden as being synonymous with. His blows there would've landed far harder had they been aimed at someone like AOC or Ilhanan Omar but nobody realistically equates Biden (or Kamala Harris for that matter) with any kind of far Left stormtrooper organisation. This even made Trump's attack on Biden's position on law and order (who history tells us is far from 'progressive') fall flat, especially with Biden himself killing it outright with his support of it and denunciation of the whole 'defund the police' thing. In the end, his best line of attack from Trump was that Biden simply hadn't achieved much during all his years in politics. True, maybe .... maybe ... but hardly a mic drop.

I want Trump to win but I think Biden may, in spite of my early thoughts, be his absolutely worst kind of opponent. Not because I think he's an especially strong candidate but, on the contrary, because he's actually such a mediocre one who forces the spotlight onto Trump and his evident weaknesses. Trump would've been far more affective against a more divisive figure like Kamala Harris, but Biden, at worst, just seems like the slightly embarassing grandad who you send to bed before they really start to get out of hand. And we all have a soft for those, even when they're serving as a distraction from something far worse.
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Mate...

Actually doubly glad Everton are beating West Ham right now.
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Actually doubly glad Everton are beating West Ham right now.

3-1! i'm a new fan lmao
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Unless I'm missing a very weak attempt at sarcasm, this post needs to go. Disgusting horseshit is not a "differing opinion".
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In line with what Soup Nazi stated above: The dotard has hinted time and time again at the possibility, that he may not accept the results of the election if they are not in his favor. There's this sinking feeling that what the world witnessed yesterday was a man who doesn't care anymore. Why would he have no reason to care? Possibly because he seems to think he won't leave office no matter what? I mean, this shit was worrying way way before yesterday's pathetic display. But it certainly seemed to put a definite stamp on all the worries that have been festering over time. Shit, he ain't even dogwhistling anymore, all of his bigotry came with a humungous sign that said "Here, look at me, I'm out in the open". At this point, does it matter if Biden wipes the floor with him during the election, when there's a good chance Trump's gonna exploit a broken system to his advantage again? Frightening thought I tell ya, frightening thought.


Opinion piece by Tom Friedman in The New York Times:

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Trump Sent a Warning. Let’s Take It Seriously.

Our democracy is in terrible danger — more than since the Civil War, more than after Pearl Harbor, more than during the Cuban missile crisis.


President Trump has made it unmistakably clear in recent weeks — and even more crystal clear at the Tuesday debate —that there are only two choices before voters on Nov. 3 — and electing Joe Biden is not one of them.

The president has told us in innumerable ways that either he will be re-elected or he will delegitimize the vote by claiming that all mail-in ballots — a time-honored tradition that has ushered Republicans and Democrats into office and has been used by Trump himself — are invalid.

Trump’s motives could not be more transparent. If he does not win the Electoral College, he’ll muddy the results so that the outcome can be decided only by the Supreme Court or the House of Representatives (where each state delegation gets one vote). Trump has advantages in both right now, which he has boasted about for the past week.

I can’t say this any more clearly: Our democracy is in terrible danger — more danger than it has been since the Civil War, more danger than after Pearl Harbor, more danger than during the Cuban missile crisis and more danger than during Watergate.

I began my career as a foreign correspondent covering Lebanon’s second civil war, and it left a huge impact on me. I saw what happens in a country when everything becomes politics, when a critical mass of politicians put party before country, when responsible people, or seemingly responsible people, think that they can bend or break the rules — and go all the way — and that the system won’t break.

But when extremists go all the way, and moderates just go away, the system can break. And it will break. I saw it happen.

I would like to think that such a thing could not happen in America. I’d like to think that … but I am very, very worried.

I worry because Facebook and Twitter have become giant engines for destroying the two pillars of our democracy — truth and trust. Yes, these social networks have given voice to the voiceless. That is a good thing and it can really enhance transparency. But they have also become huge, unedited cesspools of conspiracy theories that are circulated and believed by a shocking — and growing — number of people.

These social networks are destroying our nation’s cognitive immunity — its ability to sort truth from falsehood.

Without shared facts on which to make decisions, there can be no solutions to our biggest challenges. And without a modicum of trust that both sides want to preserve and enhance the common good, it is impossible to accomplish anything big.

“Politics needs a reference point outside of politics,’’ argues the Hebrew University religious philosopher Moshe Halbertal. “It needs values, it needs facts and it needs leaders who respect that there is a sacred domain of decisions that will never be used to promote political gain, only the common good.’’

Public trust is eroded, added Halbertal, when people feel that this notion of the common good doesn’t exist because everything has become politics. That describes the United States today. The institutions we have relied upon to be outside the game of politics so as to adjudicate what is right and true — scientists, certain news media, the courts — have become so ensnared by politics that fewer and fewer of them are universally trusted to define and pursue the common good. Even mask-wearing has become partisan.

You cannot sustain a healthy democracy under such conditions.

And that is why the only choice in this election is Joe Biden. The Democrats are not blameless when it comes to playing politics, but there is no equivalence to the Republicans. The Democratic Party sorted through all the choices, and, led by older Black men and women in South Carolina, rejected the Democratic socialist candidate and said they wanted a moderate unifier named Joe Biden.

The Republicans — who in the past voted for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, sane conservatives who could be counted upon to uphold the common good — have done no such equivalent thing. They have fallen in line lock step behind a man who is the most dishonest, dangerous, meanspirited, divisive and corrupt person to ever occupy the Oval Office. And they know it. Four more years of Trump’s divide and rule will destroy our institutions and rip the country apart.

To me, the only hope for America is to elect Biden and split the G.O.P. between the Trumpists and whatever is left of the moderate Republicans, and then hope that a big center-left and small center-right can agree on enough things to propel the country forward, heal the divide and act together for the common good.

Admittedly, Biden did not particularly shine in tonight’s debate. Alas, I have never seen him shine in any debate. But I have no doubt that the people, values and integrity he would bring into government would be of a quality that the nation deserves.

If Trump’s monstrous performance left you feeling that you want four more years of his presidency — that he will respect the outcome of the election if it goes against him, that he will reunite the country, that he will do the presidency proud and surround himself with people of the quality that the country deserves — then you and I were watching different debates.

To get back a semblance of unity and sanity, Biden has to win. And that is why I have only one answer to every question now: Vote for Biden — do it by mail early if you must, but if you can, please, put on a mask and do it in person. If enough of us do that, Biden can win outright with the votes cast on Election Day, instead of waiting for all the mail-in ballots to be counted, thereby giving time for Trump and Fox News to muddy the outcome.

So help register someone to vote for Joe Biden. Phone bank for Joe Biden. Talk to your neighbor about Joe Biden. Volunteer for Joe Biden. Drive someone to the polls to vote for Joe Biden.

Do it as if your country’s democracy depends on it, because it does.
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The veteran anchor conceded he was initially “reluctant” to step in during the Trump-Biden matchup. “I’ve never been through anything like this,” he said.

“I never dreamt that it would go off the tracks the way it did."

Really? Have you not watched the fuckin' news over the past five years, Chris? What a mook.
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So no sarcasm. Oh, Hillary is creepy? Go post pictures of female genitalia on Parler and get the hell out of here forever, dickhead.

 
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