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Old 02.05.2020, 10:12 AM   #5841
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all you say is true, but not part of what the book covered,

Mr. Hislop was deeply offended by the 1865 Papal decree that Mary, wife of Joseph and mother of lil baby jeebus, was born and died a Virgin, and was born FROM a virgin, ideas wholly drawn from paganism and not part of the Bible in any way. He saw where that type of shit leads.
ah, right. that was originally worked out by james frazier’s golden bough, yeah

but as opposed to protestants i think it’s cool as fuck that when the splinter jews set up their own monotheism in rome, rome squeezed the pantheon back into it in the form of saints and virgins and the bleeding sacred heart and all manner of gold robes and special effects and statues and shit. rome conquered judea, judea conquered rome, then they had a baby, lol.

monotheism is fucking boring! hahaha.

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to me protestantism was an attempt to go back to early christian days, but once churches are set up, and priests start collecting mad cash from the people, corruption always sets in.

yeha, when you look at the history of renaissance philosophy and the justifications each church found for splintering you realize how grotesque things got. i have an idea therefore i have a church. which is good for “freedom” i guess, but makes for some terrible religions.

this is how over the centuries we end up with the gospel of money or whatever the fuck some people believe in this country. “being rich means god loves you” basically. lololol.

 

 
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Old 02.05.2020, 12:24 PM   #5842
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the ultimate con-game is telling people that you can guarantee somehow that, after they die, their non-verifiable, non-evidential, non-corporeal "soul" will get to go to a place of everlasting happiness.

No one will ever contradict you, because no one truly knows what happens upon death. No one will ever come back and ask for their money back, CUZ THEY R DEAD. ll the while, the con-artist/religion takes your money, provides you with nothing more than a social club every "sabbath", and the feeling that you are not tied to the evils you perpetrate, because the priest told you that he is certain you are one of the chosen few and that God has forgiven you.

billions of people are being lied to so that 4,000 priests/nuns/"pastors"/monks/bishops can rape children, rape women, birth bastards, force abortions, and hold the collective "salvation" of the human race in their hand as a bargaining chip. http://bishop-accountability.org/pri...astName-F.html

fuck this shit makes me so ANGRY!!!
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Read some more funny western religious tripe, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God by Jonathan Edwards. The Calvinists had some great death bed behavior, they’d hang around the dying asking about whether God had revealed if they were among the saved. Real great folk in Early America....
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Old 02.05.2020, 10:10 PM   #5844
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ah yeah the big myth of the soul. if there’s one after death it probably disintegrates in bardo.

whatever we call “soul” i consider a temporary aggregate arising from shifting phenomena—here today, gone tomorrow, never the same.

i believe in the no-self. meaning that the self is temporary and mutable, not essential.

i mean, it’s practical to have a self for social life (with a passport and a birth certificate and all), but beyond that, if i may say so, i do not wanna fucking live forever, i just wanna compost—the true meaning of reincarnation is the worm lol.
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Old 02.12.2020, 03:24 PM   #5845
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A script of Royall Tyler's play "The Contrast" - intending to write an exam for the lecture "Early Performance Culture in America" soon. It's... rough to say the least.
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well written and engaging, but not as in depth nor insightful as I'd hoped for, but still valuable history

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I re-read Edie Girl On Fire and finished up Anti-Social Media recently.


Still very slowly on IT, and it's been probably a month since i touched. ALso have one named "Feed" that I'm working on.
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Another poorly-written play from the late 1700s, this time with 100% more proto-minstrel show caricatures and a scan so bad, certain words are indecipherable. Good thing this is the last of those scripts. They are soul-crushingly awful.
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i forgot to report that i finished reading bolaño’s “la literatura nazi en américa” a while ago.

took me long because i read it slowly and at first i looked up some characters to see how realistic they were, their historical context, etc.

it’s such a fucking masterpiece! so beautifully constructed, at once lyrical and satyrical, erudite and complete utter bullshit...

i want to read it and reread it like people used to read the encyclopedia hahahahaaaa

the encyclopedia of tlön...

there are many many many many many many but MANY latin american writers, and writers from other places, who tried to imitate borges, and of course failed.

this guy read borges extremely well, but instead of imitating him, bolaño took the old man’s concepts to another fucking galaxy, and made them absolutely his.

talk about the anxiety of influence. holy fuck!

this was a triumph.

a glorious work of fiction. best thing i’ve read in ages. aaaaaaaaaaages.

i mean, seriously, the power of invention of this guy... something else entirely. and the best thing is: so subtle. almost invisible.

plus many other virtues, like his moral judgment (the perspective from which characters are described), and his use of language... the guy used to be a poet and he hides it very well. by which i mean: the book reads like a novel, but the sentences are the sentences of a poet.

hats off. all the way. such a pity i didn’t meet him sooner. just incredible. eternal.
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i forgot to report that i finished reading bolaño’s “la literatura nazi en américa” a while ago.

took me long because i read it slowly and at first i looked up some characters to see how realistic they were, their historical context, etc.

it’s such a fucking masterpiece! so beautifully constructed, at once lyrical and satyrical, erudite and complete utter bullshit...

i want to read it and reread it like people used to read the encyclopedia hahahahaaaa

the encyclopedia of tlön...

there are many many many many many many but MANY latin american writers, and writers from other places, who tried to imitate borges, and of course failed.

this guy read borges extremely well, but instead of imitating him, bolaño took the old man’s concepts to another fucking galaxy, and made them absolutely his.

talk about the anxiety of influence. holy fuck!

this was a triumph.

a glorious work of fiction. best thing i’ve read in ages. aaaaaaaaaaages.

i mean, seriously, the power of invention of this guy... something else entirely. and the best thing is: so subtle. almost invisible.

plus many other virtues, like his moral judgment (the perspective from which characters are described), and his use of language... the guy used to be a poet and he hides it very well. by which i mean: the book reads like a novel, but the sentences are the sentences of a poet.

hats off. all the way. such a pity i didn’t meet him sooner. just incredible. eternal.

I thought you did mention it? I agree it is a wonderful book. I've read a lot of his stuff and thought it the best.
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I thought you did mention it? I agree it is a wonderful book. I've read a lot of his stuff and thought it the best.
i mentioned starting it... it was a very slow trip... because it was so enjoyable, i didn't wanna cram it
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im trying to get started with robbe-grillet’s “la jalousie” (jealousy) but it’s like watching flies fuck. boring descriptions of nothing at all. what’s the point of this? “theory”?

does anyone here have anything good to say about this book? have you read it? happily?
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im trying to get started with robbe-grillet’s “la jalousie” (jealousy) but it’s like watching flies fuck. boring descriptions of nothing at all. what’s the point of this? “theory”?

does anyone here have anything good to say about this book? have you read it? happily?

OK, I remember trying that years ago, when I wanted to appear far more sophisticated than I'll ever actually be. I reckon I got about a quarter of the way through it before conceding defeat, relegating it to a very visible place on my bookshelf, in the hope that it might impress someone. I imagine it was around the same time I was watching a lot of Theo Angelopoulos films ... or at least pretending to.
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OK, I remember trying that years ago, when I wanted to appear far more sophisticated than I'll ever actually be. I reckon I got about a quarter of the way through it before conceding defeat, relegating it to a very visible place on my bookshelf, in the hope that it might impress someone. I imagine it was around the same time I was watching a lot of Theo Angelopoulos films ... or at least pretending to.
a quarter! you must be ironman. i kept getting stuck on page 3.

e.g. (paraphrasing)

“this is the column. the shadow hits the corner of the veranda...”

veranda! who gives a fuck! i wanna stab the bastard who wrote this in the eye.

i have never seen this angelopolous guy. there’s a thai filmmaker now making what im assuming it’s stuff in a similar genre. lemme look up his name...

apitchapong... “tropical malady” was goddamn unwatchable. i did like an hour of it? uffffff i think i attempted “syndromes and a century” first. or was it “uncle boonmee”? it is all a blur now. have never finished one.

eta: now i wanna try angelopoulos just to say i did hahahaha.
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Angelopoulos is actually really good tbh, I just wasn't ready for him at the time and was really watching for all the wrong reasons. I watched Eternity and a Day a few months ago and loved it.

Also a general question, while I'm here:

At a loose end for something to read. Want something 'quality' but not so weighty that I'll likely never finish it ... nothing over 300 pages. Ideally post-war 2oth Century, preferably American. (Bellow? Updike? Roth? A.N. Other?)
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how post-war are we talking? i mean... 40s/50s? needs to be war related? you want something more or less anthropological or...? also: fiction or non fiction?
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Thinking around 50s-80s. Maybe anthropological. Definitely more socially oriented than psychological, but nothing politically crusading. More slice of life.
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