[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I dunno, I just turn the volume down a bit if it's too loud. Doesn't seem like a huge deal.

This is the sound of the point being missed.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Since symphonies are often recorded with two mics in an acoustically excellent room, Albini might do just fine.

It'd be interesting to see if he'd manage to make everything except the guitars sound like utter shite without guitars actually being present. I'm pretty sure he'd find a way.

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

This is the sound of the point being missed.

I think the kids are saying 'bazinga' to this sort of thing nowadays.

[Derek]

Albini's made hideous sounding records and brilliant sounding records. I think the problem with him is that he has the same sound for everyone so I guess he's gonna be very hit or miss.

[nicfit]

uhmmm---Albini does not make bands sound the same, imo, I hear differences in sound even in bands with similar style actually, and things like Dogs are not exactly the same as Uzeda etc...

BTW, the closest thing to an orchestra recorded by albini is the latest stuff by Mono, I guess.

[Derek]

Well most Albini recordings I've heard (and I've heard a lot) have live sounding drums, low vocals and raw guitar sounds. It's a staple of his production! I can tell if something is produced by Albini by simply hearing some of it.

[nicfit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuJN5FUiJy8
mbuh.

[Derek]

Well yeah, there's always a few exceptions haha. I'm not saying Joanna Newsom is produced like Shellac or whatever.

[Glice]

Besides which, Joanna Newsom couldn't sound more like shit if she turned into some sort of microphone positioned in the cistern of every toilet in Western civilization.

[Glice]

Oh, you've got a harp? Make it make friends with your digestive faculties would you? Or at least cunt the fuck off.

[Glice]

Scout Niblett, if you're reading: you are not off the hook.

[Derek]

Hahahahaha.

[nicfit]

Glice, you're rude with women!
Except charlie.
I dunno, I think some albums sound "Albinous" (forgive me ) coz the bands want that kind of sound, and that's how he records things "his way".
Kind of.
I can't explain better what I mean...sorry.
I also think that "few exceptions" are enough of a demonstration that he can do "different" things, when asked/needed/he feels like.
This does not mean I think he always nails things the right way or that I adore him as a sound engineer/producer, watheva.

Loudness war: it's almost as bad as listening only to mp3s.
meaning: people get used to it, can't discern better sounding stuff from the average production.
This does not mean they're bad people or stupid.
I'm just happy I (personally) can get excited while listening to something that surprises me in good ways.
I need some sleep, don't you think?

[noisereductions]

I like things that sound like stuff.

[Derek]

If they can't notice the difference in quality then more power to them though right? Ignorance is bliss and all that.

[nicfit]

I don't think so, I'm glad they can be happy, but I'm happier for me coz I feel like I can appreciate more things.
I don't necessarily dismiss poorly produced tracks if the tracks themselves are good enough to be enjoyable.

[Savage Clone]

A generation of tin ears is nothing to celebrate.

[nicfit]

Well, it's not like I'm happy for their tin ears.
I'm glad they can be happy with them.
meaning = they don't get all suicidal on things.

[shabbray2.0]

Originally Posted by Glice

Article

I couldn't find a thread for this, which surprised me. I don't know how many of you are aware of this, but it's something that a lot of audiophiles are getting quite excited about, bless 'em.

Basically, a lot of records are being mastered to the point where they sound like shit. Thoughts? Opinions? Glib horseshit non-opinions based on spurious notions of 'humour'?

I hevent read all the posts yet, so here is my non-biased opinion on it:

the loudness war seems to never end.
I think almost everybody tends to be louder then the next artist.
I also think a lot managed to let it sound good, squashed to the limiter ceiling, like flying lotus, madlib etc. it fits their style. they also get it done to let everything breath despite the squashedness. or to say it better they create motion inside their music with the stilistic technique of overcompressing.
but there multiple examples of how to do it completely wrong. (like metallica).
to keep this short:
it depends. electronic music, can gain something from it when its used right. but loudness just for loudness sake is just wrong. I can turn up the volume levels by myself, but I cant restore destroyed musical information which hurts my ears.
the biggest problem which argues me the most is clipping (metallica (cymbals // hi hats)) and cutting of the lows to much that they loose their punch (kickdrum). of curse its easier to make shit louder which doesnt have to create a lot of force in the bass region (cause there is the most energy needed to become audible), but I prefer a kick where it belongs: in my stomache and/or the chest, not just the low mids of it which leave me wanting more.
most of the time it isnt an artistical decision (again FlyLo, Madlib), its just the decision of the labels which tell the mastering engineers to make it louder (Metallica, thats th ereason why the version on the Ps2 sounds better, cause its the version before overlimiting).
the problem isnt the loudness, its the sacrifices that needs to be made to be the loudest.

[shabbray2.0]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

This is the sound of the point being missed.

hahahaha

[Glice]

Originally Posted by nicfit

Glice, you're rude with women!
Except charlie.

Pssh. There are more women than just Niblett and harptwat in the world. Believe me, I've met some of them.