Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination? - Page 248

!@#$%! · 11.04.2018, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

(Yeah yeah, I can't fuckin' stay away from this car crash....)

Can someone please explain why Native American organizations are very quick to criticize Elizabeth Warren for her actions regarding her ancestry, but it's complete crickets when it comes to Trump and his Pocahontas slur?

“native americans” is a very broad brush. pan-indianism, or whatever one may call it, is a recent phenomenon brought about by common interests. there are many native tribes, each with their own culture, traditions, agendas, etc.

so, the main people who criticized warren were the cherokees. cherokees have money they dont want to spread around, and have marginalized “black cherokees” who are the descendents of the slaves they once owned and fucked (oh yes they did). cherokees were originally from the carolinas...

they recently had to accept them as members. see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher...en_controversy

other people also complained mainly on the basis of tribal sovereignty—tribal membership is decided by tribes not dna tests. which, sure. obviously.

some natives did come out in her defense though. as you know natives are not a monolithical entity.

but anyway there was plenty of protest when pocahontas was first uttered

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ise/902837001/

as for the mental one, we will not give it a further platform by discussing it.

Skuj · 11.04.2018, 11:11 PM

Thanks. Digesting.

(Nevermind seems to have posted 62 times in 12 years. Perhaps 62 times too many?)

!@#$%! · 11.04.2018, 11:40 PM

yeah. warren never claimed tribal membership, only ancestry, which the dna proves.

the harvard listing is another story and im not clear on that.

back in the day though a drop of indian “blood” made you an indian. same as black. and it was the white people who would then exclude you that determined that identity. not that the tribe would accept you.

these days however tribes are the ones who decide who is a member, gets a casino check, is eligible for ihs coverage, scholarships, etc. there are federally recognized tribes and there are tribes who arent (and often fight for recognition).

indian law is a huuuuge area actually. forget about digesting it.

ilduclo · 11.05.2018, 11:27 AM

!@#$%! · 11.05.2018, 12:05 PM

@DEMONYO

found this pretty good read

https://quillette.com/2018/05/05/lib...l-egalitarian/

evollove · 11.05.2018, 01:40 PM

Don Delillo: America's fucked

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/20...-lies-bleeding

ilduclo · 11.05.2018, 02:02 PM

oh, we've gotten thru worse, Shrub and Reagan, f'rintance

Skuj · 11.05.2018, 02:08 PM

So, am I reading this right? Even Fox News pulled the Trump Ad?

tw2113 · 11.05.2018, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

So, am I reading this right? Even Fox News pulled the Trump Ad?

That's what I heard on social media, as credible as that can be at times.

Skuj · 11.05.2018, 02:24 PM

I'm very nervous about tomorrow. Maybe the polling is all wrong? (Like in 2016?) And I'm really fucking baffled about how many tight races there are after two years of this nightmare. How can there not be a blue wave?

The Dems need a leader, fast. And hopefully not one in his/her late 70s. Fuck, come on Dems.

Skuj · 11.05.2018, 02:25 PM

Are young people actually going to vote this time? Really?

!@#$%! · 11.05.2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

Are young people actually going to vote this time? Really?

who knows

but i just reminded some

demonrail666 · 11.05.2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

@DEMONYO

found this pretty good read

https://quillette.com/2018/05/05/lib...l-egalitarian/

The site won't load for me

ilduclo · 11.05.2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

Are young people actually going to vote this time? Really?

This is the increase in early voting among 18-29 year olds over 2014.

Arizona: +217%
Florida: +131%
Georgia: +415%
Kansas: +191%
Michigan: +128%
North Carolina: +170%
Nevada: +364%
Ohio: +134%
Pennsylvania: +397%
Tennessee: +767%
Texas: +448%
Virginia: +351%

Skuj · 11.05.2018, 05:13 PM

Wow. Come on, America. This last two years is not who you are.

GravitySlips · 11.05.2018, 05:52 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-nbc-facebook

More fake news ads from an embarrassing President.

Good luck America on mitigating the influence of this idiot and the Regressive Party.

Bytor Peltor · 11.05.2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo

This is the increase in early voting among 18-29 year olds over 2014.

Texas: +448%

Ted has this on Cruz Control winning 60/40......surely Beto can garner 40%?

!@#$%! · 11.05.2018, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

The site won't load for me

very strange.

anyway it discusses classical & egalitarian liberalism, various proponents, and ultimately argues the threat to liberalism does not come from unserious postmodernism (lol) but from, eh, call it “inherent contradictions” or whatever (no it’s not marxist).

please let me know if it still wont work tomorrow. maybe the pc police blocked it?

(i hope i dont start to sound like a reactionary...)

anyway the... i thought it’s a good... map

choc e-Claire · 11.06.2018, 12:06 AM

Why does this thread never register that I've read the posts on it? It thinks the last one I saw was five pages ago

Bytor Peltor · 11.06.2018, 12:44 AM

RUSH LIMBAUGH UNLEASHED:

- "Hillary Clinton colluded with Russia."
- "Hillary Clinton rigged that election.”
- Joe Biden “can’t fill a phone booth” on the campaign trail
- Bill Clinton, Obama envious & jealous of Trump's crowds

11.04.2018, 11:11 PM	#4942
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,685	Thanks. Digesting. (Nevermind seems to have posted 62 times in 12 years. Perhaps 62 times too many?) __________________ Fuckit.
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!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,457	yeah. warren never claimed tribal membership, only ancestry, which the dna proves. the harvard listing is another story and im not clear on that. back in the day though a drop of indian “blood” made you an indian. same as black. and it was the white people who would then exclude you that determined that identity. not that the tribe would accept you. these days however tribes are the ones who decide who is a member, gets a casino check, is eligible for ihs coverage, scholarships, etc. there are federally recognized tribes and there are tribes who arent (and often fight for recognition). indian law is a huuuuge area actually. forget about digesting it.
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11.05.2018, 12:05 PM	#4945
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,457	@DEMONYO found this pretty good read https://quillette.com/2018/05/05/lib...l-egalitarian/
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11.05.2018, 01:40 PM	#4946
evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	Don Delillo: America's fucked https://www.theguardian.com/stage/20...-lies-bleeding
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ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	oh, we've gotten thru worse, Shrub and Reagan, f'rintance
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11.05.2018, 02:08 PM	#4948
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,685	So, am I reading this right? Even Fox News pulled the Trump Ad? __________________ Fuckit.
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11.05.2018, 02:24 PM	#4950
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,685	I'm very nervous about tomorrow. Maybe the polling is all wrong? (Like in 2016?) And I'm really fucking baffled about how many tight races there are after two years of this nightmare. How can there not be a blue wave? The Dems need a leader, fast. And hopefully not one in his/her late 70s. Fuck, come on Dems. __________________ Fuckit.
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11.05.2018, 02:25 PM	#4951
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,685	Are young people actually going to vote this time? Really? __________________ Fuckit.
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11.05.2018, 05:13 PM	#4955
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,685	Wow. Come on, America. This last two years is not who you are. __________________ Fuckit.
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11.05.2018, 05:52 PM	#4956
GravitySlips children of satan Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 373	https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-nbc-facebook More fake news ads from an embarrassing President. Good luck America on mitigating the influence of this idiot and the Regressive Party.
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11.06.2018, 12:06 AM	#4959
choc e-Claire expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 2,408	Why does this thread never register that I've read the posts on it? It thinks the last one I saw was five pages ago __________________ Making myself up as I go along. Check out my music-themed blog, 79:57.
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11.06.2018, 12:44 AM	#4960
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	RUSH LIMBAUGH UNLEASHED: - "Hillary Clinton colluded with Russia." - "Hillary Clinton rigged that election.” - Joe Biden “can’t fill a phone booth” on the campaign trail - Bill Clinton, Obama envious & jealous of Trump's crowds
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