[knox]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

There is no fucking way that I am forced to fear men in the same way that my wife does, when the perves who want to "borrow her phone" (seriously...twice. as if) or learingly chat her up as they choose the seat next to hers, on a near-empty bus. Sure, she's pretty, but pretty isn't a fucking pass.

I'm sorry if you'll pardon me but I'm calling bullshit. I fear neither man nor woman, but not because I'm brave (or stupid)....because by virtue of my penis, I'm spared all but those who already fall below societal standards. those who have been taught that their ill behaviors are cool, wanted, or warranted tend only to prey upon vaginas.

It ain't EVEN the same; not one bit close.

Note that when a penis carrier says the same thing a vagina carrier has been saying, the penis carrier doesn't get any shit or hostility.

That's the lesson today, kids.

[Trama]

Originally Posted by knox

There is a video there with a lot of interesting data.
I'm open to a discussion about it.
I think you know for a fact I would have no problem saying it if I wasn't up for it.
If you want to have a discussion based on facts and data, that is.
Let's do it.
I don't even know what your point is anyway... what is it that you're trying to say?

I saw the video the moment you posted. It's there. See self-objectification.

Originally Posted by knox

Sex and objetification are only synonyms in the minds of brain washed western straight men.

Originally Posted by Trama

I'm afraid sexual objectification is not exclusive of a race, gender or sexual orientation.

[knox]

Yes, what about self-objetification?
It's not a process that can be prevented or stopped initially, and it's initiated and constantly reinforced by society, media vehicles and corporations.
What's your point?
The video clearly stated that the majority of objectified images we see today are of women's bodies.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by knox

Note that when a penis carrier says the same thing a vagina carrier has been saying, the penis carrier doesn't get any shit or hostility.

That's the lesson today, kids.

Come on now, that's only because I've trained these monkeys not to ever pay attention to a damn thing I say....ever.

Also: you have tits.

[knox]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

Come on now, that's only because I've trained these monkeys not to ever pay attention to a damn thing I say....ever.

Also: you have tits.

Alright, penis carrier no-tit individual.
Or do you have any suggestions?

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

Also: you have tits.

Funfact for you guys: next week, I get to 'breastfeed' a babbydoll of my choosing.

I'm choosing a brown one to suckle me.

[floatingslowly]

I want to feel his sweet brown plastic lips latch onto my man-nipples and suck happily at the godnectar I produce.

[floatingslowly]

You see? Everything I've posted is true, yet few will dare to suppose so.

[Trama]

Originally Posted by knox

Yes, what about self-objetification?
It's not a process that can be prevented or stopped initially, and it's initiated and constantly reinforced by society, media vehicles and corporations.
What's your point?
The video clearly stated that the majority of objectified images we see today are of women's bodies.

You're so eager to put words in my mouth that you're not getting my point.

I'm not saying men are as sexually objectified as women, my point is, gender, race and sexual orientation are not a factor. This has been studied several times.

In the video they alluded self-objectification or in other words sexual objectification of women by women.

[knox]

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, that is their fault or something?
It's not like one day I decided it would be cool to self-objectify.
I was doctrined to do so and taught that there are serious consequences for women who challenge that in a patriarchal culture.
It becomes pretty difficult to change when most capital and power in the world belongs to men.
And the few powerful women are still working under the rules/guidance of men and a patriarchal culture.

Also, the main aspect to analyse would be:

- Objetifying women provides men with a sense of pleasure, importance, power, sexual gratification.
- Self-objetification gives women low self-esteem, paranoia, insecurity, self-hatred and lack of power and control.

So, while men experience this as a positive thing, it's very negative for women.

Since both cases are based on the idea that women should exist and strive to please men, it's essential for men to assess this behaviour and analyse the privilege in it, otherwise the cycle cannot be broken.

[knox]

The video also points out to the fact that several studies show that the increase in objetified images displayed by media and advertising coincides with an increase in violence against women.

These images and bodies are shaped to please men, they are the ultimate "observer" in both cases.

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[keep poppin pimples]

just so everybody knows. the wnba can be as entertaining to watch as man ball and they are spectacular athletes worth seeing


like wnba games cost a tiny amount because nobody wants to go, and it never sells out so no drunks will be screaming in yr ear. people pay fourty bucks for shirts at nba games but with the wnba they'll find creative ways to make take their free stuff that would have lined up to overpay for at the mens game.

it's seriously a big problem if pay will pay $100 to see the nba and not $20 for the ladies.

i admit that i've never worn the seattle storm hat my dad got for free but i paid for and wear two supersonics hats eventhough that team doesn't even exist! girls are good at basketball and you can't really patronize someone who's dunking on yr ass so just remember the wnba

[keep poppin pimples]

mj would beat girls at one on one

but he sucks at baseball which is the shittiest sport so he loses some points there

[keep poppin pimples]

Pippen did slow down when WNBA star Swim Cash got the ball in the post and easily worked her way around him. The defensive indifference, if you will, prompted East coach Bill Walton to call a timeout. He couldn’t believe that a defender of Pippen’s abilities could be so careless.
“I told him, ‘Bill, it’s impolite to block a lady’s shot,” remarked Pippen.

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[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples

just so everybody knows. the wnba can be as entertaining to watch as man ball and they are spectacular athletes worth seeing

 

[keep poppin pimples]

come on, you're deleting yr own posts to make me look crazy, come on. you should be able to recognize a fly girl

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

 

 

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous