I Am a Mess and Need Real Psych Help!!! - Page 3

Reliable Pharmacy · 03.27.2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther Greenwood

(i tried to PM you this, SynthethicalY, but your inbox is apparently full..)

Umm, hi. I'm on medications for mental problems (depression and other stuff) but I also have therapy every week. Plus, I go to the gym and eat really healthily. I stopped smoking or drinking alcohol about two years ago and I don't do recreational drugs anymore. I read quite a lot of self-help books, I try and be honest and talk to people (I didn't before, this does help). I make sure I get out in the fresh air everyday, I read a lot about Buddhism and I go to meditation sessions. I've tried lots of "alternative therapies", I do charity work... etc, etc. Lots of other stuff.

I'm only saying this because I don't think ONE thing will help. I think this is actually from one of the self-help books I read, but here: try and think of each positive thing you do to help yourself get better as 1%. Like if you go to therapy, improve your diet, get exercise, be more honest with people, smile at yourself in the mirror, take your meds, meditate, start a diary, drink more water, clean up your surroundings.. that's 10%, yknow? You're 10% better. And it's actually not too hard to come up with 100 positive things you can do to help yourself.

I don't have answers really, just suggestions based on my experiences.

Oh, the only thing I'd really say is don't listen to people who warn you off taking any medications without really knowing your situation. And vice versa (don't listen to people who try to convince you to take medications without really knowing your situation.) Both sides are (at best) annoying and strike me as thoughtless.

Dear Miss E. Greenwood,

We at Hirst Pharmaceuticals, wish you all the best luck in your current mental health endeavour.

Respectively,

D. Hirst

President and CEO,
HIRST CORP.

Reliable Pharmacy · 03.27.2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash Cow

I started to get depressed an hour ago. And started crying. God I feel stupid, saying this.

Dear Mr. Synthethical Y,

We at Hirst Pharmaceuticals currently have no relevant advice for you, but we wish you the best of luck in your breakdown.

But lets just face it darling we are a money hungery corporation and we never pass up an opportunity to make a connection with a potential client.

gloom is our buisness and buisness is good.

See You Soon.

Jokingly and Respectively,
D. Hirst

President and CEO,
HIRST CORP.

Everyneurotic · 03.27.2007, 05:09 PM

buddy, i know how i got out of being a terminal depressed fuckhead (actually, sometimes i even can't remember). only advice i can give you besides those given by far more expert people here is a) you should really want to get better, i know it sounds stupid but if doesn'tstart from there, then there's little you can do to get better, realize that you need to get out of that hole and b) know yourself, do whatever you want, care only about yourself and the people who care about you, embrace what makes you an individual instead of rejecting it to fit in, stop caring about whoever is not on your side and let it rip. sounds cheesy but punk rock did help me out on those hard times.

anyway, hang in there man...oh and drink juice, it's good and good for you, cran-grape is my current favorite. juice makes things better.

!@#$%! · 03.27.2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

anyway, hang in there man...oh and drink juice, it's good and good for you, man-juice my current favorite. juice makes things better.

Everyneurotic · 03.27.2007, 05:17 PM

you can clearly see on my post that i said cran-grape as in juice made of cranberrie plus grape.

you trying to get my goat?

!@#$%! · 03.27.2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

you can clearly see on my post that i said man-ape as in juice made of manberrie plus ape.

you trying to have sex my goat? that'll cost you $5

...

Cantankerous · 03.27.2007, 05:39 PM

anti-depressants eat your soul. seriously, i know like eight people taking lexapro or zoloft or prozac and none of them have any personality.

Everyneurotic · 03.27.2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

...

that's really mature.

ps: did you get that thing i sent you?

!@#$%! · 03.27.2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

that's really mature.

ps: did you get that thing i sent you?

have a laff man. i just woke up in a goofy mood.

Everyneurotic · 03.27.2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

have a laff man. i just woke up in a goofy mood.

i'm cramping from laughing.

!@#$%! · 03.27.2007, 06:17 PM

yah, hm a little thing i wanted to say people

you can feel sad about shit, sadness is a normal & healthy human emotion

people think that sadness is "bad" and they say "oooh cheer up, what up w/ the long face". but melancholy moods are a part of life & can strike for a number of reasons.

DEPRESSION on the other hand is a disease that includes feelings of worthlessness and suicidal tendencies and the feeling that one is no good etc etc. plus a number of other things.

some times when you refuse to make room for your sadness it will come back as a kind of depression. i so have noticed anyway. so, don't be afraid to look at sunsets & get a little teary eyed & shit. it's natural.

but anyway to all depressos out there, don't give up, there is hope.

--

and kegmama sweetie i hope you're ok & if you really have a problem you find a way to feel better.

Cantankerous · 03.27.2007, 06:24 PM

depression is a normal thing to feel, however, it only becomes a problem when it doesn't lift.

Green_mind · 03.27.2007, 06:25 PM

Today, my head felt like an empty coconut, with the all the insides scraped out and milked dry. My eyes were dry, for no apparent reason I was on the very urge of crying, one sad song would have set me off, it was so wrong.

Katy · 03.27.2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

anti-depressants eat your soul. seriously, i know like eight people taking lexapro or zoloft or prozac and none of them have any personality.

I think depression is the thing that eats the soul.

(Wolf Eyes next album title? "The Thing That Eats The Soul"..)

one of the only things i remember thinking clearly when i was really a mess was "it's like a cancer. like an alien in me, eating my soul."

My personality when i'm in a really bad patch consists of next-to-nothing. My personality when I'm taking my meds properly and doing all the things I'm supposed to do (and going through a good patch) is as close-to-normal as I get.

Maybe the people you know shouldn't be on the meds they're on. Or maybe they didn't have any personalities to begin with.

Cantankerous · 03.27.2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Katy

I think depression is the thing that eats the soul.

(Wolf Eyes next album title? "The Thing That Eats The Soul"..)

one of the only things i remember thinking clearly when i was really a mess was "it's like a cancer. like an alien in me, eating my soul."

My personality when i'm in a really bad patch consists of next-to-nothing. My personality when I'm taking my meds properly and doing all the things I'm supposed to do (and going through a good patch) is as close-to-normal as I get.

Maybe the people you know shouldn't be on the meds they're on. Or maybe they didn't have any personalities to begin with.

whatever. my opinion is based upon anecdotal evidence, not imperical data. i myself have no reason to take antidepressants; in the rare event that i would be depressed i certainly know how to pull myself out of it (i'm not insinuating that you don't; i know that some people can't.) i see medication as sort of a last resort.

!@#$%! · 03.27.2007, 07:16 PM

speaking of zoloft, which i used to call "vitamin Z"--

i loved the thing because after months & months of long faces i suddenly one day had this manic smile on my face. it was funny because i had nothing to smile about but there it was.

the other lovely thing about it was that because the thing somewhat supresses the sexual response, i got ENDLESS BONERS which were, ah, hard to kill. without the need for tantric rituals it was possible to go on for hours. oh that was fun.

anyway eventually some other brain chemicals must have started to kick in because i started to have the symptoms of overdose & i was removed of it.
oh what was my point?

let's avoid generalizations with this topic. what works for one person doesn't work for another. i think katy makes a very good case for meds when needed and as needed. in any case you have to be a proactive patient & report your changes faithfully to the prescribing entities. just cos we all have pill-popper friends who are fucked up it doesnt mean the meds are bad per se.

Cantankerous · 03.27.2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

speaking of zoloft, which i used to call "vitamin Z"--

i loved the thing because after months & months of long faces i suddenly one day had this manic smile on my face. it was funny because i had nothing to smile about but there it was.

the other lovely thing about it was that because the thing somewhat supresses the sexual response, i got ENDLESS BONERS which were, ah, hard to kill. without the need for tantric rituals it was possible to go on for hours. oh that was fun.

anyway eventually some other brain chemicals must have started to kick in because i started to have the symptoms of overdose & i was removed of it.
oh what was my point?

let's avoid generalizations with this topic. what works for one person doesn't work for another. i think katy makes a very good case for meds when needed and as needed. in any case you have to be a proactive patient & report your changes faithfully to the prescribing entities. just cos we all have pill-popper friends who are fucked up it doesnt mean the meds are bad per se.

i'm actually pretty sure it is them and not the drugs...the drugs are just not helping the situation. i know a lot of people like that.

Katy · 03.27.2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i see medication as sort of a last resort.

Yeah, so do I, really. I don't particularly like taking what I take, but the reason I do take my meds now is because of the experience I had last year when I decided to not take anything at all. I just stopped one day without telling anyone. I decided that if I just ate properly and went to the gym a lot I'd be fine. I did everything right. I was as healthy as could be and I was going to therapy. But i was also lying to my doctors and my family and friends, pretending to take my meds and just storing them under my bed. And over the course of weeks and months I got worse and worse until i ended up in the hospital almost as bad as I'd been at my very worst. I had hundreds of pills and capsules stashed under my bed by the time i finally admitted what I'd been doing... and by that point that was a kind of dangerous stash to have. And I HATED the fact that I hadn't been able to "cure myself". It was really hard to accept that it hadn't worked, despite all my efforts. It didn't make sense. It still doesn't make sense. But that's mental illness I suppose. It's unfair and doesn't make sense.

So now I take them. And things are a bit better, not great, but not awful. Mostly manageable. the drugs are "I gotta do what I gotta do".. and all that.

SynthethicalY · 03.27.2007, 10:12 PM

You know what made my day today?

That I am half way done with my general ed classes. And that only means that next year I will start a university. Which comes with great delight.

Cantankerous · 03.28.2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Katy

Yeah, so do I, really. I don't particularly like taking what I take, but the reason I do take my meds now is because of the experience I had last year when I decided to not take anything at all. I just stopped one day without telling anyone. I decided that if I just ate properly and went to the gym a lot I'd be fine. I did everything right. I was as healthy as could be and I was going to therapy. But i was also lying to my doctors and my family and friends, pretending to take my meds and just storing them under my bed. And over the course of weeks and months I got worse and worse until i ended up in the hospital almost as bad as I'd been at my very worst. I had hundreds of pills and capsules stashed under my bed by the time i finally admitted what I'd been doing... and by that point that was a kind of dangerous stash to have. And I HATED the fact that I hadn't been able to "cure myself". It was really hard to accept that it hadn't worked, despite all my efforts. It didn't make sense. It still doesn't make sense. But that's mental illness I suppose. It's unfair and doesn't make sense.

So now I take them. And things are a bit better, not great, but not awful. Mostly manageable. the drugs are "I gotta do what I gotta do".. and all that.

sometimes mental illness is no fun.

03.27.2007, 05:09 PM	#43
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	buddy, i know how i got out of being a terminal depressed fuckhead (actually, sometimes i even can't remember). only advice i can give you besides those given by far more expert people here is a) you should really want to get better, i know it sounds stupid but if doesn'tstart from there, then there's little you can do to get better, realize that you need to get out of that hole and b) know yourself, do whatever you want, care only about yourself and the people who care about you, embrace what makes you an individual instead of rejecting it to fit in, stop caring about whoever is not on your side and let it rip. sounds cheesy but punk rock did help me out on those hard times. anyway, hang in there man...oh and drink juice, it's good and good for you, cran-grape is my current favorite. juice makes things better. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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03.27.2007, 05:17 PM	#45
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	you can clearly see on my post that i said cran-grape as in juice made of cranberrie plus grape. you trying to get my goat? __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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03.27.2007, 05:39 PM	#47
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	anti-depressants eat your soul. seriously, i know like eight people taking lexapro or zoloft or prozac and none of them have any personality. __________________ RETIRED
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03.27.2007, 06:17 PM	#51
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,500	yah, hm a little thing i wanted to say people you can feel sad about shit, sadness is a normal & healthy human emotion people think that sadness is "bad" and they say "oooh cheer up, what up w/ the long face". but melancholy moods are a part of life & can strike for a number of reasons. DEPRESSION on the other hand is a disease that includes feelings of worthlessness and suicidal tendencies and the feeling that one is no good etc etc. plus a number of other things. some times when you refuse to make room for your sadness it will come back as a kind of depression. i so have noticed anyway. so, don't be afraid to look at sunsets & get a little teary eyed & shit. it's natural. but anyway to all depressos out there, don't give up, there is hope. -- and kegmama sweetie i hope you're ok & if you really have a problem you find a way to feel better.
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03.27.2007, 06:24 PM	#52
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	depression is a normal thing to feel, however, it only becomes a problem when it doesn't lift. __________________ RETIRED
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03.27.2007, 06:25 PM	#53
Green_mind the end of the ugly Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 827	Today, my head felt like an empty coconut, with the all the insides scraped out and milked dry. My eyes were dry, for no apparent reason I was on the very urge of crying, one sad song would have set me off, it was so wrong.
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03.27.2007, 07:16 PM	#56
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,500	speaking of zoloft, which i used to call "vitamin Z"-- i loved the thing because after months & months of long faces i suddenly one day had this manic smile on my face. it was funny because i had nothing to smile about but there it was. the other lovely thing about it was that because the thing somewhat supresses the sexual response, i got ENDLESS BONERS which were, ah, hard to kill. without the need for tantric rituals it was possible to go on for hours. oh that was fun. anyway eventually some other brain chemicals must have started to kick in because i started to have the symptoms of overdose & i was removed of it. oh what was my point? let's avoid generalizations with this topic. what works for one person doesn't work for another. i think katy makes a very good case for meds when needed and as needed. in any case you have to be a proactive patient & report your changes faithfully to the prescribing entities. just cos we all have pill-popper friends who are fucked up it doesnt mean the meds are bad per se.
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03.27.2007, 10:12 PM	#59
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	You know what made my day today? That I am half way done with my general ed classes. And that only means that next year I will start a university. Which comes with great delight.
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