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Old 01.14.2010, 07:19 PM   #2301
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Old 01.14.2010, 08:49 PM   #2302
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Old 01.15.2010, 12:50 PM   #2303
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Reading Goodbye 20th Century which I find interesting purely as a Sonic Geek.

Despite all the claims of how straight they always were, I bet there is a great kiss and tell book like Angie Bowie's to be had that we will likely never read since they never fucked anyone over enough to generate it. Lee's journals hint at this, and I just don't buy that they could hang out with Lydia and Thirwell and emerge so unstained.
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Old 01.15.2010, 01:33 PM   #2304
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Steve is straight as an arrow, poison or otherwise, but the other members?
Like you said, JRNLS80S doesn't deny the use of cocaine. And the Kim/heroin rumor seems to have been around forever.
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Old 01.15.2010, 07:02 PM   #2305
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Steve is straight as an arrow, poison or otherwise, but the other members?
Like you said, JRNLS80S doesn't deny the use of cocaine. And the Kim/heroin rumor seems to have been around forever.

Yeah, and I kind of fill the role of the "stable" one in a group of crazies in my circle, so I figure SY probably have just as much to hide on a much larger scale.

If you hang out with the likes of Lydia and the Butthole Surfers, you are always going to seem less debauched, which makes having people like that around surprisingly useful. Bowie actually did the same thing with Iggy and Lou Reed, but Angie knew too much and had too much to gain in $$ and vengeance not to unleash all the dirt.
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Old 01.16.2010, 03:44 PM   #2306
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Old 01.16.2010, 03:54 PM   #2307
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Enjoyed the hell out of that book.
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Old 01.16.2010, 03:58 PM   #2308
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I'm only a few pages in but enjoying it so far.
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Old 01.18.2010, 12:43 AM   #2309
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biggest criticisms of Goodbye 20th Century:

No mention of Thurston's stint playing in Even Worse even though it details all their other early bands at the time and addresses his growing interest in taking part in the hardcore scene at the time. Pretty silly it would overlook his playing in a hardcore (scene at least) band.

No mention of Steve Albini or Big Black despite the obvious alliance with SY in the early days.

No mention of Bruce Pavitt either, and Sub Pop is only mentioned way after they were an established marketing force mega-indie. Pavitt put "Kill Yr. Idols" on Sub Pop 100 the very first compilation he released on vinyl, included SY tracks on several of his cassettes before that, and constantly hyped them in his fanzine and column in the Rocket in Seattle.

In general it seems as if when the author couldn't talk to somebody he just didn't mention them in the book, except perhaps in passing, and then often out of sequence from when they actually interacted with or impacted the band.

I swear some of the timeframes are just wrong. It says they were playing Washing Machine songs on tour with R.E.M. and at Lollapalooza before the album was actually released, but I know I was playing it on my radio show regularly when I went to both those gigs in George, Washington that summer. May have just been the advance cassette that DGC sent KAOS, but the point is, college radio was already playing the songs.

Definitely the book is better and meatier than Confusion is Next was, but it is in no way comprehensive or spot on accurate.
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Old 01.18.2010, 01:09 AM   #2310
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reminds me a little of a surreal sherlock holmes or philip marlowe...

hire the mysterious dr freud, private detective of the unconscious, to follow you around in your dreams! he will hypnotize you and use his extraordinary powers of deduction to discover all the dirty little secrets even you didn't know about yourself! ...stop touching yourself that way.
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Old 01.18.2010, 02:59 AM   #2311
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"One day I had an experience which showed me in the crudest light what I had long suspected. It related to one of my most acquiescent patients, with whom hypnotism had enabled me to bring about the most marvellous results, and whom I was engaged in relieving of her suffering by tracing back her attacks of pain to their origins. As she woke up on one occasion, she threw her arms around my neck.

"The unexpected entrance of a servant relieved us from a painful discussion, but from that time onwards there was a tacit understanding between us that the hypnotic treatment should be discontinued. I was modest enough not to attribute the event to my own irresistible personal attraction, and I felt that I had now grasped the nature of the mysterious element that was at work behind hypnotism."


...needs to be repackaged and marketed as a pulp novel.
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Old 01.18.2010, 05:29 AM   #2312
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Old 01.18.2010, 07:48 AM   #2313
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Old 01.18.2010, 02:14 PM   #2314
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Old 01.18.2010, 02:20 PM   #2315
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Old 01.21.2010, 03:36 PM   #2316
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finished it and loved it, tonight or tomorrow i will star do androids dream of electric sleep.
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Old 01.21.2010, 08:28 PM   #2319
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What is that one like? It's legendary, but I've never read it...yet.

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