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Originally Posted by ni'k

symbol, have you ever thought "hey, maybe i'm coming off as patronising, maybe i should think why i need to do that for over 4 pages"?

i often get accused of that. it must be true. my shrink once told me i was poison for people with low self-esteem. i can be grating, abrasive, overbearing, critical and tactless. apologies.

Originally Posted by ni'k

i know that you are too stuck up to read my posts. but if you had you might have found these quotes, which are in my opinion highly relevant and could be useful to you in a time of introspection, hint hint:

im not too stuck up to read your posts, i think sometimes they are deranged though, and not worth reading, though they may contain good material. here i'm reading this one. there. i'm reading you. happy?

Originally Posted by ni'k

because it does seem like you have being doing that so far and aren't going to stop anytime soon. it would be infuriating if it wasn't so hilarious, but it's too boring to be that either.... hmmmm.... so if i was to follow the symbol man school of thought, were you don't need to listen or try to understand why someone else feels the way they do, and that that could matter more than your opinions, couldn't i just shorten it and say: "no, you're wrong to feel this way because of MY different opinions"

really? we're a lot alike then. i don't see you listening or trying to understand others, either. i know you're siding with some people, but i don't know that you're listening to other. if you have, ever, please, show me where you've done that.

Originally Posted by ni'k

i disagree with what you said about "the price of freedom".

great, let's hear your arguments,

Originally Posted by ni'k

you are being requested not to behave in a certain way that is offending people, and they are trying to explain why they feel this way.

i get that now, but that request has only become clear to me in recent pages. however, knox included a body of justification for that request that i didn't fully understand. while i agree with the basic request, i found her justifications debatable.

Originally Posted by ni'k

freedom doesnt mean i get to act like a douche because i can so fuck everyone else. you make it harder for other people to have freedom unless you listen to what they have to say and try to show them some respect

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so you're listening to me and showing respect? ok, great. lead by example. i get you.

if you had read what i've said though, you'd notice i said i find a lot of shit in this board disturbing, but i've learned that i can't stop it.

Originally Posted by ni'k

dont pretend that asking for some respect is a demand that everyone goose step to intellectualism.

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i'm not pretending anything, but when you try to speak for knox it makes it harder for me to get what she's saying, or what you're saying, for that matter. are you two one and the same? no.

Originally Posted by ni'k

you just mean you want to use it when it suits you so you can always suddenly switch from being serious if you can't win an argument.

i didn't get that, sorry.

Originally Posted by ni'k

you are coming across as condescending, smug and self assured that anyone wants to hear more of your opinions. when you should only be self assured at how annoying it is to hear you go on and on forever. oh sorry, am i being "overheated" again? don't worry i've got a fan beside me now.

if you don't want to hear, skip it. it's easy. just skip it over. and keep that fan running.

Originally Posted by ni'k

and to tell us all we need to do is "give people shit for it" in response, is both patronising and sounds like you are saying you won't stop offending people unless they try to offend you back. we asked people to be courteous. we don't want to get dragged down into pissing battles on a board. because thats really stupid and excruciatingly boring and really doesn't interest us.

so you're not giving me shit for your disagreements with me? your discourse here and in that other post is not in pissing battle mode? ok

Originally Posted by ni'k

you go on to suggest we have to "fight" as a solution, suggesting you are going to keep fighting back unless we do. we don't CARE about dominating other people. we aren't asking for a fight. we are asking people to be considerate of how we feel. are you really so wrapped up in yourself you can't see that?

that's not what i said, i didn't present myself as the opponent of your cause, you fucking idiot-- i'm actually on your side, believe it or not. i would like this place to be "better", though i have little hope this will happen. but i said essentially that to advance your cause you might need to do some fighting, because there's nobody here to shield you from the displeasure that others cause you, but yourself. are you really so wrapped up in yourself you can't see that?

Originally Posted by ni'k

EDIT: well it seems like you finally have stopped now.

fat chance!

Originally Posted by ni'k

without realising that no, noone really was interested in a "good" discussion, however thrilling that might have been.

really? i was. i thought knox was and i thought better than deux was. i think better than deux advanced her points much better than you-- i totally get what she's saying.

Originally Posted by ni'k

all that shit about the prosecutor? complaining about accusations that sully your might pride when you've said insulting things to people again and again when they've been keeping it civil? you'd almost expected me to say something like "get off your high horse you pompous fuck" but that would be being overheated again, wouldn't it? oh how i can not wait for the next installment in this gripping saga.

that was for knox, not for you. are you speaking on her behalf now?