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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
right-- it was the us that propped saddam, then destroyed him, as they did with the guy who killed torrijos-- noriega was it? i forget. yes, manuel noriega. same story.
england and russia had been meddling with iran for ages, and the ottomans were iran's (persia's) main strategic competitors during the modern era and since before.
in 1953 the us overthrew a secular democracy on behalf of britain's oil interests, and to keep russia out, and installed the shah.
the shah was knocked down by the islamic revolution and the usa became the great satan, and israel the point of contention, and they took on the american embassy and all the hostages.
then saddam was sicked on iran, given wmds, etc.
fucking reagan was a real charmer.
there are no innocents here, nobody is a saint. countries and "leaders" just want to advance their interests at the expense of everyone else.
having said that, it's generally better when people solve their conflicts through diplomacy. trump is for war and unilateralism and aligns with the cancer known as bibi netanyahu. both of them please fuck off.
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yeah, you're basically right there, but howevers, the Rethugs have been MUCH worse on the killing of innocents. Yes, Barack uses the drones way too much, but this is NOTHING compared to El Salvador/Iraq